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On November 04 2010 06:48 Tachion wrote:
From my understanding, Nony has too many RL obligations to hunch over the computer 8 hours a day anymore.
Yes, and that is his Achilles' heel, so to speak. Nony/Tyler is like Ret in many ways, in that he's been to Korea but decided that he doesn't want to stay. Of course I'm eating those words now that Ret is going to Korea again, but with Tyler it just seems different. He's older. He's married. He has a university degree. In that he's not the same as the people willing to sacrifice virtually everything to be number one in Starcraft.
eSports may still be Tyler's career, but it's not something he's willing to drop everything else for, and he's made this clear many times. If eSports makes it big in America, and it becomes a legitimate career here, I can see Tyler going far. But if it remains a Korea-specific deal with the GSL and whatever else is coming, I don't see Tyler going over just because of that. And in that event, I don't see him reaching what he is capable of as a player who not only has good mechanics (NonY had one of the best mechanics among foreigners in BW) and tournament skills, but who also possesses an amazing ability to read his opponents, craft build orders, and exploit the meta-game.
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On November 04 2010 05:30 0neder wrote:
HuK got creamed by Idra recently, and even gave up under the guise of mothership fan service because he knew he didn't have a chance against Select.
Well, after seeing HuK against Select in a recent bo5 (after MLG), I feel confident in stating that this is completely false.
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On November 04 2010 07:19 neoenigma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 07:02 lac29 wrote:
Very disappointing series and it almost feels like Idra didn't try at all which makes the showmatch seem stupid and pointless =(. GO listen to teh SOTG podcast... and you'll understand what happened. Idra did try. Nony just used some semi abusive PvZ builds he collected. The difference between Huk vs Idra and Nony vs Idra is that Nony prepared for the matchup where as Huk went in against Idra like he was just another oppoonent. Nony used builds designed perfectly for beating players like Idra. So huk will probably get better tournament results overall... and Nony will beat more zergs 
My point is more like Idra should have continued instead of gg early since this is a showmatch and ppl are looking for actual game time to watch.
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On November 04 2010 05:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Huk does need to learn from Tyler, as does Tyler from Huk. Everyone can learn from each other there are always new things to learn that you may not have seen before. Stop with this who is better stuff based on a single series stuff. Compare players over time you will see that there is no Protoss who has put up the results Huk has. The only player who comes close is Socke but Huk is outperforming him when it comes to major tournaments (MLG/IEM).
Stop trying to reason with them Naz they never listen (-.-)
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Just watched the matches cast by Husky on starcraftarena.net
Fantastic stuff! Every time Idra went too hard on macro, Nony punished him for it. That's how it should be. Amazing FF micro and blink micro won it for him on two games as well, just awesome.
Premature GGs by Idra (he definitely could have come back in that last game), but overall a great series!
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On November 04 2010 08:16 iCCup.Raelcun wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 05:50 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Huk does need to learn from Tyler, as does Tyler from Huk. Everyone can learn from each other there are always new things to learn that you may not have seen before. Stop with this who is better stuff based on a single series stuff. Compare players over time you will see that there is no Protoss who has put up the results Huk has. The only player who comes close is Socke but Huk is outperforming him when it comes to major tournaments (MLG/IEM).
Stop trying to reason with them Naz they never listen (-.-)
Yeah, just throwing in every once in a while that this forum is full of idiots is probably the more constructive thing to do. :/
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I love IdrA's GG timing, I mean some people wait until the opponent kills his whole army moves into his face AND kills his main building, "Maybe he won't notice my base, turn back, go to the bathroom and let me macro to 5 bases". No, not going to happen, just GG already.
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On November 04 2010 06:32 QuakerOats wrote:
LOL I hate when people say this. It's meaningless conjecture. If Nony could be #1 "easily" if he was more dedicated, why doesn't he dedicate himself more?
Because for some people, professionally playing StarCraft 2 is not their top priority.
PS. I love it how obvious things need to be pointed out in forums.
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On November 04 2010 20:31 bashalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 06:32 QuakerOats wrote:
LOL I hate when people say this. It's meaningless conjecture. If Nony could be #1 "easily" if he was more dedicated, why doesn't he dedicate himself more? Because for some people, professionally playing StarCraft 2 is not their top priority. PS. I love it how obvious things need to be pointed out in forums.
I am pretty sure he knows why Nony isn't doing it. He just thinks that the discussion is meaningless speculation until Nony really commits (although I think meaningless speculation is often fun^^).
In my opinion, this is also pretty obvious if you read QuakerOats full post.
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On November 04 2010 07:54 lac29 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2010 07:19 neoenigma wrote:On November 04 2010 07:02 lac29 wrote:
Very disappointing series and it almost feels like Idra didn't try at all which makes the showmatch seem stupid and pointless =(. GO listen to teh SOTG podcast... and you'll understand what happened. Idra did try. Nony just used some semi abusive PvZ builds he collected. The difference between Huk vs Idra and Nony vs Idra is that Nony prepared for the matchup where as Huk went in against Idra like he was just another oppoonent. Nony used builds designed perfectly for beating players like Idra. So huk will probably get better tournament results overall... and Nony will beat more zergs My point is more like Idra should have continued instead of gg early since this is a showmatch and ppl are looking for actual game time to watch.
I think Idra is always that way when it comes to GG though. If he sees that he is in a huge disadvantage, he will gg right away rather than wait until the last building falls.
Personally, I would love to see Idra stick around and may be try to turn it around. But then again, most of Idra's opponent is top pros and they won't likely to let those advantages go to waste.
The series may be short but to see Nony comes up with a strategy like that is just so awesome, prop to him. I hope he does very well in Dallas.
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gg nice games
Nony figured out this one really nice, i mean mass warp gates vs mass drones 
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Tyler's build on LT and SP was sooooo sexy. Really smart play
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results arnt really that suprising imo, tyler is a beast.
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IdrA is looking worse and worse as time progresses. By next year, he won't even qualify for gsl anymore
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On November 06 2010 06:10 riverkim09 wrote:
IdrA is looking worse and worse as time progresses. By next year, he won't even qualify for gsl anymore
What are you basing this on? He did better on GSL than he did last time and he won MLG DC. The showmatch against Tyler is the only weak performance by him in a fairly long time.
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On November 06 2010 06:10 riverkim09 wrote:
IdrA is looking worse and worse as time progresses. By next year, he won't even qualify for gsl anymore
Boxer lost some games too. So I bet he's just getting worse as time goes on too. One event is obviously all you need to make an informed opinion. ^^
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On November 06 2010 06:10 riverkim09 wrote:
IdrA is looking worse and worse as time progresses. By next year, he won't even qualify for gsl anymore
o.O Ro16 GSL, MLG DC champion...wow IdrA's sure looking off his game.
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