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Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 10:56:12
October 02 2010 10:55 GMT
#2361
I really think ITR not playing bad, he would probably win againt 99% other zergs, but Cool just not letting him play his own style and countering really well
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2362
On October 02 2010 19:54 firebound12 wrote:
as much as I want zerg to win... I don't want 1sideness


i agree. i want fruit to win but 4-0 would be a disappointing end to the tournament. i'm hoping hopetorture can take 1~2 games and show that he can fight when his back is against the walls.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12023 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2363
On October 02 2010 19:50 MICHELLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:49 Lann555 wrote:
On October 02 2010 19:47 Westy wrote:
Anyone thinking that fruit dealer did the gold expansion so that ITR would scout it and then go for a drop? So that he could get a nydus off and overrun the base?


Lol, no. 95% of Terrans over platinum level would have stopped that nydus regardless of dropping or not. Still not sure how he missed it


you seem very mad my dear friend, calm yourself a little bit


I don't think he could of killed that Nydus anyway, since the tank didn't pop until just after the speedlings were coming out.
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Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4139 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2364
Zergs treasure this moment of cool winning, when nada plays in gsl2 its gonna get ugly
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2365
On October 02 2010 19:53 beetlelisk wrote:
I am actually thinking Rainbow sold his match, if the stadium is packed then there may be big amount of money in bets.

Oh god please no.
DrGreen
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland708 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2366
ITR will go MMM now and win 4:3, thats how terrans roll, LOL
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2367
On October 02 2010 19:55 SmoKim wrote:
Fruitdealer is pretty much the BoxeR of SC2 atm, bringing much needed hope and light for zergs all over the world

but the games so far reminds me more of SavioR vs Bisu finals

Except it's backwards because the guy trying all the fancy harass and drops is getting stomped.
isM
Profile Joined September 2010
United States735 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2368
On October 02 2010 19:51 Losticus wrote:
Refresh my memory, but wasn't it Cool that made that huge splash about only winning 10% of his practice matches? Was he just throwing that # out a a joke, was that based on one day, or what?

Because right now that win% needs another 0.


His partners are Clide and Tester, so I don't think it was a joke. However their styles may be better suited to beat him than drop harass (clearly its not working).
Loose lips sink ships
mongojazZ
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany43 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2369
On October 02 2010 19:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:26 mongojazZ wrote:
ITR would destroy every other Zerg - it's not that he's playing badly, it's just that FruitDealer is playing absofruitely amazing. Respect where respect is due. IdrA is showing bad manners (surprise, surprise!) by disrespecting FruitDealers amazing play.

This LR thread is worse than usual, full of raving, ignorant fanboys... Idra would stomp ITR playing like this. Congrats to Cool for playing well but it's really ITR's predictable/passive play and poor decision making that's dictating the outcomes thus far


I wouldn't consider myself a fanboy by any means - I'm just impressed by the immaculate decision making by FruitDealer. I think you'd agree when I say that he's currently the best Zerg we've seen so far. IdrA is a very good player, yet he lacks the assertiveness that FD is displaying. He somehow comes up with the right counter every time, spots every possible drop and reacts accordingly. I highly doubt IdrA would stomp ITR, since the series wouldn't be so dominated either way. I don't know if you've played any tournaments lately, but it's really getting to your nerves when everything you do is being countered. IdrA sometimes seems too hot-headed for me to become a really great player. But that's maybe a misconception. Fact is: FD is playing at the top of his game. And I honestly think nobody else would dominate ITR in such a fashion. The build of ITR is very solid, yet depends alot on harassment. And so far, FD has repelled every attempt in extraordinary fashion. And that's pretty impressing.
Nothing is more fairly distributed than common sense: no one thinks he needs more of it than he already has.
DreXxiN
Profile Joined July 2010
United States494 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2370
On October 02 2010 19:51 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:49 DreXxiN wrote:
Oh yeah guys ITR is just playing bad, that's why Fruidealer rolled every other terran too, they were ALL playing bad.

Get the fuck over yourselves, seriously.

COOL FIGHTING!

oGsTOP had him beaten and they've nerfed Ultras since then.

If you can't see how horribly ITR is playing right now, there's no hope for you.
It's really sad to see. We haven't seen a single decent move from the Terran all series.


Why the fuck does it matter? You guys need to stop your one dimensional thinking.

Yeah sure, ITR has a high skill cap, so does fruitdealer. But Skill is not the only thing incorporated in winning a tournament. It's also dealing with the metagame pressure, which ITR is obviously doing much worse than Cool. No excuses, no whining, no crying, CHILL IS BETTER IN THIS TOURNAMENT. No question about it. COULD ITR beat him? It's probably possible, but is he handling the pressure as well as Cool? Obviously not.

Cool, in the entirety of his package, is stomping ITR. Hard. Everyone has off days, ITR should have prepared himself not to..75k is on the fucking line.

And to top it all off, it's on terran super-favored maps.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2371
Who said Ret said Cool was playing poorly? Cool is playing very well AND ITR is playing poorly.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2372
Guys realize this, in the finals, it comes down to who makes the least mistakes. There are gonna be more mistakes in finals cause of nerves, pro gamers from sc1 has stated this many times.

So yes, ITR is making more mistakes, and Cool is less affected by nerves it seems, doing less mistakes. Cool is also playing so good. He seems to not make any mistakes.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2373
Rainbow playing Stale + Cool playing and acting instinctively = Total Rape

Rainbow really getting Mental blocks after those Defeats.

Sigh as a Rainbow Supporter , The Cute Girls on Roffles Stream are the only good thing so far.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2374
hopetorture just playing bad =/. Hes just playing the exact same style over and over again regardless of the circumstances and kept getting read like an open book. Cool knew what was coming and prepared necessarily.

Cmon hopetorture! You gotta mix up your play abit so that Cool doesn't feel like hes playing a perfect bot. Reapers, hellions, marauders, build them and pressure Cool so he doesn't feel comfortable taking bases by the dozen.
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CanucksJC
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada1241 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2375
On October 02 2010 19:54 Zozo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2010 19:53 beetlelisk wrote:
I am actually thinking Rainbow sold his match, if the stadium is packed then there may be big amount of money in bets.


really? you are going to bring that now? 50k on the prizepool, it's not a proleague match.


ROFL i can't believe shit like that isn't banned
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raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2376
Haha, it is so true what idra said:
thank you rainbow, for making zerg look good.


For me it's like when someone does play as bad as HopeTorture the other player looks like a God when he beats him. And funny thing is that Zerg's random (hidden) expansions and Nydus in a base is such a cheesy and gimmicky play. C'mon, you gotta admit that.
FireHazard
Profile Joined August 2010
United States54 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2377
I'm disappointed that we aren't seeing a LOT more reapers / banshees. Terran having all these options available is what makes them scary. When you go for tank drops / mech every game, it's not scary at all.
Alkro
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden88 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2378
FD is winning because he is playing some serious mind-games. The gold expansion was obviously a bait as he was totally prepared to counter the drop.

ITR isn't losing because of lack of micro/macro, he is losing the mind-games. FD can forsee his every move and trick him in to plays.
Laggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States385 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2379
IdrA and Cool are equally good in my eyes, just different playstyles, if idra learns howw to all in and be more volatile like FD he could easily bbe better than FD I think though they'll be the same level sstill I think.
D on iccup stands for diamond in SC2
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
October 02 2010 10:56 GMT
#2380
Boxer and oov lending their energy for spirit bomb is the only way ITR is going to come back
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
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