Well read, tbh I can't wait for Hyperdub vs. Tester, they are both calm and patient players so it'll be amazing to watch.
TLO

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Rampager
Australia1007 Posts
Well read, tbh I can't wait for Hyperdub vs. Tester, they are both calm and patient players so it'll be amazing to watch. TLO ![]() | ||
Angra
United States2652 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:49 Censured wrote: I really dont get people who say: hyperdub cheesed = no credit for him? Didn't you guys watch OSL finals between Flash and Jaedong? It was freakin cheese fest, and still these two guys are most beloved progamers ever... I don't think most people in this thread know that a BW forum even exists. | ||
InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3467 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:48 Wolfpox wrote: There's nothing wrong with bitching about cheese. It's lame, not entertaining, and even the player himself said he was ashamed of it. Trying to seem unbiased and neutral is pretentious in this case. Just be honest, it was terrible and lame. yes it is. because this is a live report thread not a "I whine because my favorite player got cheesed" thread. Noone wants to read it, just keep it to yourself and live with it. | ||
hydraden
United States719 Posts
since it is too common in BW, it is part of game that you prepare for cheeses. And this is always what Euro/American players lack back in the days of BW. Too stiff and predictable. Cheese is much harder to defend in BW. | ||
mangoloid
100 Posts
![]() Bummed that TLO lost to cheese. Also bummed that no foreigners are left in GSL (but I still some Koreans to root for). Also bummed by the haters on both sides of this thread. Both TLO and Hyperdub played well at times, made mistakes at others. Anyone who plays TvT knows that TLO's fast Thor build puts him at a slight disadvantage to the standard fast tank build, and I think the discrepancy in the first two games can be attributed to TLO's build weakness as opposed to straight up Hyperdub "outplaying" TLO. Hyperdub is a great player, but it is hard to be polite to a guy who cheeses and trusts his fate to luck rather than skill. But one should not expect class and sportsmanship from kids playing video games. ![]() Finally: seriously TLO, scout close positions first. | ||
accela
Greece314 Posts
Even at the first game hyperdub had almost always the upper hand and it was his fault for giving more and more chances to TLO to come back, a more solid player would have crashed him very early IMHO. Also cheese is nothing new and ofc TLO has seen it many times on ladder or, even better, at OGS house, if not then coaches doing something wrong. | ||
exitusnow
28 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:49 Erucious wrote: Kinda wondering how i was warned by a mod for a spoiler a couple of days ago in the Day 3 thread for talking about someone winning/losing, when the last 40 pages here are spoilers.. OT: It was a great set of games - Players do what they need to do to win. Do the unexpected ya im still trying to figure out why i was banned from TL IRC just b.c i predicted TLO losing in the ro32. when lurking and in the past i always herd issues of mods and power hungry abuse but never really thought much of it till now. ![]() | ||
Ation
Finland102 Posts
Even in the first matchup I was smashing my fist onto the table and shouting stuff like "F''' YEAH Korean 4-warp rush!" when I was attempting to predict the play. Then the "finals" with TLO just intensified the atmosphere even more. Also, I really love the Artosis+Tasteless caster couple. Occasionally, they miss some things but they got so awesome stuff going on that it doesn't matter. No huge "foreigner history" was made this GSL, but gotta say... well played sir(s)! | ||
Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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Censured
Czech Republic1059 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:51 Angra wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2010 21:49 Censured wrote: I really dont get people who say: hyperdub cheesed = no credit for him? Didn't you guys watch OSL finals between Flash and Jaedong? It was freakin cheese fest, and still these two guys are most beloved progamers ever... I don't think most people in this thread know that a BW forum even exists. Ya, that's kinda.... sad | ||
TBO
Germany1350 Posts
Those who are saying TLO got outplayed should ask themselves why Hyperdub, considering he should think then he is the better player, would decide to play such a risky build in the last game though. | ||
Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:51 Pulimuli wrote: I think and hope Tester will beat Hyperdub, not mainly because he beat TLO but because Tester is my favorite protoss and we really dont need more terrans in the GSL Those might turn into some interesting games. Hyperdub proved he's a solid player (despite what haters might be saying), I wonder if he'll put up a good fight. | ||
dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:51 Angra wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2010 21:49 Censured wrote: I really dont get people who say: hyperdub cheesed = no credit for him? Didn't you guys watch OSL finals between Flash and Jaedong? It was freakin cheese fest, and still these two guys are most beloved progamers ever... I don't think most people in this thread know that a BW forum even exists. What is this BW you are referring to? And what does it have to do with Starcraft 2? | ||
kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:43 Angra wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2010 21:41 kojinshugi wrote: On September 20 2010 21:38 Angra wrote: I haven't read any of this thread but I'm assuming the last 5-6 pages have been people raging about TLO losing and trash-talking Hyperdub and being incredibly disrespectful towards him. Shit like that really needs to stop. It gives this website a horrible image. Please, have some sense, and some respect. Yeah I wanted TLO to advance but Hyperdub deserved the win. There's no other way about it. Congrats to Hyperdub and I hope he puts up a good fight against Tester next round. Better luck to TLO next time. I don't respect cheese. I don't think he deserved the win for a retarded coin toss. It's a cheap way to win and it cheapens the game. It's the type of unsportsmanlike garbage you see with the constant faux "injuries" in soccer. It's bad for the sport. You don't respect every single professional Brood War player in existence then, including Boxer. They all cheesed at some point or another. It's a valid option to win games. Get used to it. Okay, cool, then I don't. Cheese is bad for the game as a spectator sport. It's the equivalent of distracting the referee while you deal a low blow. Note that there's a difference between not respecting a player (I think Hyperdub is a great player) and not respecting a game he played. I don't put anyone on a pedestal, nor do I demonize anyone. If you play entertaining games and have talent, cool. If you go for the zero skill cheap trick, I'm not going to offer some sort of feigned props to games well played, because the deciding game was decidedly not so. | ||
LoCaD
Germany1634 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6158 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:47 Sfydjklm wrote: Show nested quote + On September 20 2010 21:43 scottyyy wrote: On September 20 2010 21:41 gozima wrote: I really don't understand all the TLO love. He's quite literally won no tournaments in beta or post release. People throw around the word "creative" way too much when referring to him too. When other people do unorthodox builds, they're instantly labeled noob, but when TLO does it he's some sort of genius. Hyperdub outplayed him in game 1 and dominated him in game 2. If it wasn't for one mistake in game 1, hyperdub would have won 2-0. Really now? Are you serious or trolling? * 2nd place, TeamLiquid SC2 Invitational 1 * 1st place, Go4SC2 ESL Cup #7 * 1st place, Go4SC2 ESL Cup #11 * 1st place, Zotac Cup #12 * 2nd place, PLU.cn Kaspersky Cup * 4th place, Altitude TL Invitational * 4th place, HDH Invitational That's pretty fucking impressive. LOL@ fourth place in Altitude. You should go check out more info about the tournament ![]() http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Altitude_TL_Invitational 4 tournement player ![]() ![]() | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:36 Thunderfist wrote: Show nested quote + So yeah, there goes my last reason to watch this tournament, apart from tester, I'm just not emotionally invested in any of the players that much. This, Tester is the only one worth watching now. And cool ? And check ? And rainbow ? And hyperdub ? | ||
unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:41 gozima wrote: I really don't understand all the TLO love. He's quite literally won no tournaments in beta or post release. People throw around the word "creative" way too much when referring to him too. When other people do unorthodox builds, they're instantly labeled noob, but when TLO does it he's some sort of genius. Hyperdub outplayed him in game 1 and dominated him in game 2. If it wasn't for one mistake in game 1, hyperdub would have won 2-0. He´s like Nal_Ra or Boxer, always trying new and creative things. If Huk did an unorthodox build people wouldn´t call him a noob, if any known good player does a weird build he doesnt get called a noob, since you can most of the times see the intent of the build, what its meant to do and achieve. While someone not as great tries a weird build and completely fails, you often dont see the intent or purpose, or just notice that its plain thought out wrong/executed. TLO is very creative, there is no denying it. | ||
Grond
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