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Luvz
Norway356 Posts
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trebs
United States4 Posts
When money is on the line, you have to do what you can to get a win. And hyperdub did just that. | ||
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BookII
Australia400 Posts
Good luck to TLO and other foreigners in season 2. And, there are still many awesome players left in season one. | ||
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smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:42 Sadistx wrote: That's always been an axiom of e-sports. Players can do and will do whatever they need to win, everything else is irrelevant. It's a shame so many people have trouble understanding it. Also one has to admit .. that the cheese in game 3 wasnt that surprising .... I atleast would have taken the possibility serious.. and scouted my stupid Nat. Hyperdub played well and won the mindgame in game 3... Well I still wish TLO would have advanced though. If I were TLO I might have gone for a cheese in game 2  Edit. Dont forget the proxy banshee in game 1 ...  . | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:45 Substancer wrote: Yes screw them, I will never pay for anything from them. Now that the two best foreigners are gone, goodbye. You do realize they have actually provided this stream, with two very well known and liked casters in the western 'scene'? Goddamn some of you are retarded. | ||
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smegged
Australia213 Posts
There were some really great games tonight. The zerg games were awesome to watch and the first TLO game was epic. | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
Nevertheless, a lot of respect to TLO! First tournament in korea, a very stressful situation because of the move to another country so far away, then getting chicken pox and having the huge pressure because he's last man standing....and then this awesome epic game 1! RESPECT Dario!!! <3 | ||
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Mellotron
United States329 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:45 Substancer wrote: Yes screw them, I will never pay for anything from them. Now that the two best foreigners are gone, goodbye. Seems rather extreme for something that could easily be a technical error or miscommunication between two sets of people who dont speak the same language. | ||
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3474 Posts
Third game he should have definitely scouted this location, especially since his scout was relatively late. He learned from it and won't make that mistake again which is positive in the long run. He was also a little late with pulling back his marines, his two marines died before he could bring his scvs (at least that's what I saw from the blurry stream). He could have defended the rush with 2 marines and 15 scvs but not with scvs alone. So overall, it was his fault that he lost, not hyperdub's. And as to why he scouted 12 first, I'm quite sure he had a different build planned if they had been on spots where drops and flying units are much stronger, that's why he checked if he had to adjust his timings. | ||
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NeVeR
1352 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:36 dabom88 wrote: Honestly, let them get their hate. TLO has a LOT of fans, and even if the hate is "unreasonable", TLO was the reason a lot of people were bothering to watch this tourney. He has a lot of followers, and most of them are pissed that he lost to cheese. The hate is perfectly understandable, even if it is "unreasonable". Just let them vent for a while, they'll be back for the next GSL. it makes TL look retarded when we have a bunch of people crying "WTF stupid korean cheesers, you don't deserve to win". people need to quit whining about cheese and accept that it is a part of the game. | ||
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kmkg
Japan186 Posts
Helions did nothing for TLO, it really showcased how fragile they are vs a high lvl player. His early game suffered because of his love for helions in all 3 games... But yah, that first game was just one of the most memorable I've seen in SC2. | ||
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Honeybadger
United States821 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:40 Koukalaka wrote: On the EU ladder, at 1600 Protoss, I encouter Terran players who all in Marine/Banshee/Raven push with 20-25 SCVs all the time. I also encounter 90% of my PVPs ending with me going gate > core > FE and losing to 4 gate. I also lose a lot of my PvZs because I go gate > core > FE and lose to an all in roach push, baneling bust, of 6 pool. Cheese happens everywhere. Stop crying that someone you'll never meet lost in a tournament you'll never play. Calling me a bad player. GG. Obviously we're discussing players much better than ourselves. I just consider cheesing (and this is obviously just an opinion) to be bad sportsmanship, and an act of desperation by players who don't deserve to be where they are. There's no resource management. No risk assessment, no cost benefit analysis (something TLO is pretty genius at) and it's just a basic attempt to turn a STRATEGY game into a round of counter-strike with an AWP. Sure it's all about the money, and I know these guys are doing it for their living. But the koreans also shun poor sportmanship following a win or a loss, but don't care about how they get to that win or loss? It's akin to the kamikaze attacks of WWII, the burning of Dresdin, or the attack against pearl harbor (obviously these are tactical analogies, not relating a video game to war!) No honor in such tactics. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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sc2lime
Canada513 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:39 JWD wrote: Nah, we'd rather just use the thread as a trap for idiot posters. There are about 10 mods lurking around here now, waiting for the morons to reveal themselves! (Whenever something dramatic or controversial happens, the morons come out in droves. They can't help themselves.) Is it quite necessary to repeatedly use that tone regarding certain users here? Aren't you a mod and should be professional about this? | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:43 scottyyy wrote: Really now? Are you serious or trolling? * 2nd place, TeamLiquid SC2 Invitational 1 * 1st place, Go4SC2 ESL Cup #7 * 1st place, Go4SC2 ESL Cup #11 * 1st place, Zotac Cup #12 * 2nd place, PLU.cn Kaspersky Cup * 4th place, Altitude TL Invitational * 4th place, HDH Invitational That's pretty fucking impressive. LOL@ fourth place in Altitude. You should go check out more info about the tournament  | ||
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Raskit
579 Posts
It's not the end of the world though, he gets another shot next month, pointless everybody crying about it like he has died >_>. | ||
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hdkhang
Australia183 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:32 AlgeriaT wrote: Well, Hyperdub is now sitting on the sharp end of the karma stick. TLO remains a player of honor, the first martyr of the GSL, and shalth verily return to rape this unworthy peon in the next GSL season. <3 TLO A player of honor? Have you watched the showmatch series between TLO and DimagA? I'm a big TLO fan myself, but that doesn't mean I hate on anyone who "outplays" TLO. TLO made the first critical mistake of not properly scouting his natural, nevermind that he didn't scout in the right direction on Metalopolis. When scouting you always try for the most economical scout. If you are in close positions, that is when you need to be able to react the fastest, what good would it be if you were in close positions and you found that out by a process of elimination? It would be too late. Scouting the main to his back would only be helpful if you expect drops/banshees which come much later. Reapers in TvT aren't really a huge problem (like in ZvT) since marines take care of Reapers and come out before Reapers do anyway. Let me say this again... TLO was "outplayed" in game 3. Hyperdub took a very large risk by having his barracks so close. To be honest, had he kept the barracks in his base or at his natural, he would still have won the game since TLO scouted it last. The time the SCV spent at TLO's natural waiting for 150 minerals was plenty of time for that SCV to return home and start on the Barracks at the main/natural. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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RefleX746
New Zealand96 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:43 Jibba wrote: I love TLO but that was a pretty brilliant way to end the series after the way those first two games went. You get tunnel vision on intense macro games and then all of the sudden it's a rush. That's the kind of unpredictability/cheese all great players should have in their arsenal. now that iv cooled down a bit i agree with this statement, it was a fairly good play and not just a hopeful 'uh crap if I play standard ill lose' play (since he already beat TLO standard game 2) Still.. Very surprised they didnt stream a interview of the last foriegner whom they knew had alot of support. Extremely Dissapointed. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:43 Jibba wrote: I love TLO but that was a pretty brilliant way to end the series after the way those first two games went. You get tunnel vision on intense macro games and then all of the sudden it's a rush. That's the kind of unpredictability/cheese all great players should have in their arsenal. I agree with this. Not scouting the near location was bad to. | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
On September 20 2010 21:45 Substancer wrote: Yes, they like pissing off their viewers on purpose, because that is the best for them in the long run...Yes screw them, I will never pay for anything from them. There was obviously some miscommunication with both Korean and English. The interview will be on the website later most likely. | ||
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