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On September 13 2010 19:23 Kage wrote:
I don't understand what the toss would have done scouting this? Known that was he getting fucked about 15 seconds earlier? Or done what? picked up probes and go hit that scv?
boosting a stalker out instead of a sentry.
cancel his robo / dont even build it
dont lose his zealot needlessly
keep producing zealots and stalkers
defend with probes
=> easy win
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On September 13 2010 19:23 CScythe wrote:
The most awkward interview in the history of interviews.
Nah, I've seen worse.
Some so awkward, I have to stop watching for I feel awkward for them.
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"He did that to my Artosis?"
Manlove at its finest.
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HAHAHAHAHHAAHHA!!! oh man i feel bad for that guy! Must be very very nervous
Would be funny if he goes all the way to the end!! GL BUDDY!!!
I loved the artosis laugh lol!..
Interviews are short as his games!
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On September 13 2010 19:25 groms wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 19:24 Cranberries wrote:On September 13 2010 19:22 groms wrote:On September 13 2010 19:21 Cranberries wrote:On September 13 2010 19:19 groms wrote:On September 13 2010 19:19 Cranberries wrote:
NEXGenius is probably one of the top 5 Protoss' in the world...
And yet Protoss cannot do anything against Proxy Marauder rushes. ^^
Scouting. Fixed. You scout on 12. You see nothing. You prepare by making a 33 second Zealot. You prepare by making a 42 second Sentry. The Terran makes a 25 second Marine and 2 30 second Marauders. And the ending is the same. ^^ So wait you scout on 12 vs a guy who just cheesed you on a fkin four player map? You're about as bright as our buddy nexgenius. Gz You scout on 12 after Gateway unless you want to have 5~ seconds before you can build your Cybernetics after the Gateway finishes. So to be clear you care more about the idle 5 seconds than losing games to cheese?
Well, 5 seconds faster Sentries/Stalkers to hold off 1 marine/2 marauder "mini" pushes is required.
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He obviously played to win. Nothing wrong with that in professional gaming.
The strategy from the terran aside I really didn't like the play from Genius. That certainly isn't one of the top 5 Protoss of the world. There are a lot better ones everywhere which at least have the basics down (like.. D'uh! Scouting?)
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On September 13 2010 19:23 Kage wrote:
I don't understand what the toss would have done scouting this? Known that was he getting fucked about 15 seconds earlier? Or done what? picked up probes and go hit that scv?
Scout with 8th probe, go 2 gates instead of 1 gate robo, chronoboost stalkers.
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On September 13 2010 19:26 Cranberries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 19:25 groms wrote:On September 13 2010 19:24 Cranberries wrote:On September 13 2010 19:22 groms wrote:On September 13 2010 19:21 Cranberries wrote:On September 13 2010 19:19 groms wrote:On September 13 2010 19:19 Cranberries wrote:
NEXGenius is probably one of the top 5 Protoss' in the world...
And yet Protoss cannot do anything against Proxy Marauder rushes. ^^
Scouting. Fixed. You scout on 12. You see nothing. You prepare by making a 33 second Zealot. You prepare by making a 42 second Sentry. The Terran makes a 25 second Marine and 2 30 second Marauders. And the ending is the same. ^^ So wait you scout on 12 vs a guy who just cheesed you on a fkin four player map? You're about as bright as our buddy nexgenius. Gz You scout on 12 after Gateway unless you want to have 5~ seconds before you can build your Cybernetics after the Gateway finishes. So to be clear you care more about the idle 5 seconds than losing games to cheese? Well, 5 seconds faster Sentries/Stalkers to hold off 1 marine/2 marauder "mini" pushes is required.
These pushes don't come fast if they aren't proxied. And if they aren't proxied 5 seconds doesn't matter since they have to travel from their base... I fail to see how you make sense here.
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funny how some people around here handing crap to all top-ranked protoss-players who lost to terrans
jangminchul? bah, totally overrated
escjung? püüh, ladder doesn't mean anything
nexgenius? wtf bronze-noob who can't even scout
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On September 13 2010 19:27 silentsaint wrote:
He obviously played to win. Nothing wrong with that in professional gaming.
The strategy from the terran aside I really didn't like the play from Genius. That certainly isn't one of the top 5 Protoss of the world. There are a lot better ones everywhere which at least have the basics down (like.. D'uh! Scouting?)
He might have the sickest mechanics known to man in the lategame. I mean, he might be a great player but was simply caught off guard. More often than not you can get away with a late scout, and he just made the wrong call. He isn't a bad player because of it.
Just like the T isn't terrible because he used two strategies that worked, twice in a row.
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You know what's imba - cheese.
The map pool should be improved in the future, so that such jokes do not work as easily.
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I dont understand the last several pages of hate.
It's a big tournament it worked first game easily, it puts pressure on your opponent and throws him off balance mentally. If you have a solid reputation of being a solid player who is very good mixing in ridiculous cheese takes people off guard and it tells your next opponents you gotta watch out for this and play honest.
In short a ton of money is on the line, win however you can.
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I once lost 5 games in a row to a bunker rush from the same guy. The 6th game i played him on a 4player map, he went proxy reaper, killed 8 or so probes, and still i won that one because the guy had no macro skills period.
However, I am totally clueless on what to do against proxy rax rine bunker rush. I feel as if even one bunker got up, it's death. I've tried chronoboosting a zealot and then a stalker, while trying to kill scv with probes, I've tried 10 gate -> 2 zealots and 10 gate -> stalker, the terran didn't even need to micro.
The bunkers also build so ridiculously fast that even if I knew it was coming, checked the sides, found nothing, went to scout terran on 2player map, when the probe was halfway the damn bunker from a sneaky scv was already up ;|. Anyone has any replays holding a perfectly executed bunker rush?
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This should be a short series too, I'm interested in seeing if this game will get past the bling phase.
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my dog couldve beaten that, its like 11 rax proxy marauder lol.
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How is  TheWinD influential zerg player, he is mediocore at most..and at times where it wasn't as competative
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Davit delivered.. Totally.. The fact is that i gosubetted on him 1 day before the match :D I feel so fucking baller..
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On September 13 2010 19:28 sleepingdog wrote:
nexgenius? wtf bronze-noob who can't even scout
Well that one is at least deserved.
Scouting is the bread and butter of Starcraft
On September 13 2010 19:28 vyyye wrote:
He might have the sickest mechanics known to man in the lategame. I mean, he might be a great player but was simply caught off guard. More often than not you can get away with a late scout, and he just made the wrong call. He isn't a bad player because of it.
That may be possible but its just so sad to go a toss down like that. Its normal that Toss Fans like me are disappointed because he didn't react in the second game to the experience of the first game even a little. Scout at 10 wouldnt have been that crazy.
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On September 13 2010 19:26 x-Catalyst wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2010 19:23 CScythe wrote:
The most awkward interview in the history of interviews. Nah, I've seen worse. Some so awkward, I have to stop watching for I feel awkward for them.
You cealrly haven't been around for midas' interviews
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