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sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 01 2010 11:16 GMT
#181
On September 01 2010 20:14 gavss wrote:
Show nested quote +
They will use English SC2 client to observe the plays.


is this possible?


yes, if you hack english clients so they work on korean servers - I've always wondered that blizzard hasn't intervened on this point....probably they've concluded some form of agreement
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
JimmyHollow
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom249 Posts
September 01 2010 11:16 GMT
#182
On September 01 2010 19:52 Kishkumen wrote:
We need more people posting in the GOM forums. Junkka said complaining here won't do any good towards fixing it.


Do they have any forums ? Somehow I cannot find it on gomtv.net
poilord
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Germany3252 Posts
September 01 2010 11:18 GMT
#183
wow, just wow. This move really makes me want to see the whole endeavour fail...
/bitter
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
September 01 2010 11:19 GMT
#184
On September 01 2010 20:16 JimmyHollow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2010 19:52 Kishkumen wrote:
We need more people posting in the GOM forums. Junkka said complaining here won't do any good towards fixing it.


Do they have any forums ? Somehow I cannot find it on gomtv.net


http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/forum/
You do have to register, but it takes like 30 seconds.
Weird, last time I checked the UN said you need to have at least 200 APM and be rainbow league to be called human. —Liquid`TLO
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 11:21:52
September 01 2010 11:21 GMT
#185
Hmmm simple math...

HDH finals = 30k west viewers

GSL finals (GOM TV plans) 30k west viewers so thats 1.500.000 $ income for a 170.000$ priced tournament ;P

And we said that Activision-Blizzard was bad....
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
September 01 2010 11:21 GMT
#186
First of all: I don't mind paying 20 bucks for a good sc2-Stream.

BUT: If I pay, I wanne be able to see the damn HQ-Stream and it appears this is just impossible in Europe. If they don't fix that, I don't see the point in paying extra just to hear Tasteless talk.
xlord 5:0
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
September 01 2010 11:22 GMT
#187
Guess we will watch on a re-stream with terrible quality :/

or not watching at all.

The view count will be terrible, at least outside of Korea.

Go TLO, we can't watch you, but be fabulous anyway
I am not good with quotes
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
September 01 2010 11:25 GMT
#188
ok

so when is HDH2 starting again?
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 11:27:02
September 01 2010 11:26 GMT
#189
Completely ridiculous.

And here I thought SC2 would make it big in Korea with this tournament.

What a joke.
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
September 01 2010 11:28 GMT
#190
I have high expectations about cup, so I'd probably pay 30$ for full coverage (not 50$). But indeed doesn't look like SC2 has a chance in Korea at this rate :>
yomi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 11:30:30
September 01 2010 11:29 GMT
#191
i don't see where to register a new account on their forums @ http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/forum/2756

nm its at the top
Kishkumen
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States650 Posts
September 01 2010 11:29 GMT
#192
On September 01 2010 20:21 Frankon wrote:
Hmmm simple math...

HDH finals = 30k west viewers

GSL finals (GOM TV plans) 30k west viewers so thats 1.500.000 $ income for a 170.000$ priced tournament ;P

And we said that Activision-Blizzard was bad....


Simple economics.

HDH finals = free, 30k west viewers

GSL finals = $20+, price is too high for demand, far less than 30k west viewers, income is far less than optimal

Supply and demand, my friend, supply and demand.
Weird, last time I checked the UN said you need to have at least 200 APM and be rainbow league to be called human. —Liquid`TLO
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-01 11:33:39
September 01 2010 11:29 GMT
#193
On September 01 2010 20:10 Frankon wrote:
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On September 01 2010 20:09 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
tasteless and artosis will be casting for a lot of people i assume O.<


Right now it looks like their stay in korea will be short if GOM doesnt change their stance

Show nested quote +
It's as hard for GOMtv as it is for you to find the restream. The only good way I could see is to spread the links through IRC, given they can't contact livestream/ustream/etc to take the streams offline. Otherwise, TL will hardly have any choice than to bend over and erase every post containing a restream. Otherwise, they'll be up against Blizzard.


Technically if they re-stream the TV broadcast and not the GOM stream i think Blizzard wouldnt be able to do anything.

Not sure about that. You do see live tv events being re-streamed and some of them are not taken down on popular streaming sites but others are (wc 2010 matches for example).

But in the end it will go down on the competence of the viewer to find a re-stream.
Most people wouldn't be able to find a stream if TL were to remove all posts regarding re-streams.
It'll be hard but not impossible and then you'd consider paying the stream (if you have money).
I'd probably find a stream since I do watch a lot of shows through streaming sites (and I actually watch different tv shows consisting of Chinese/Japanese/Dutch/German/English/Vietnamese language so I don't have a problem with finding a stream). However I do pay for most of those streams since it'll be too much time to spent on which I have better uses for.

My point is that neither Gretech, TL or Blizzard can stop people from finding a way to watch GSL free regardless of difficulty of finding them.

Edit:
Also I wanted to point out that the more people are actually paying for the stream it means they'll more likely be able to cover their expenses/expand their business means in essence you're paying to make E-Sports grow. Which is what we all want but most people don't want to pay for their services yet want it to grow which is contradictfull.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
September 01 2010 11:29 GMT
#194
On September 01 2010 19:42 bRuTaL!! wrote:In summary, TL dont expect this scope of a tournament to be free. Dont be greedy. You dont expect to go into movietheaters for free or U2 concert to be free either.



Well, yes actually I would a expect a U2 concert to be free. Similar to the GSL I cannot see myself paying either at any price. So if Bono wants fans, he gives free concerts. If GSL wants viewers they provide a free stream. And yes, we have became that accustomed to free streams since, well you know, every other tournament in the world for every other game provides free streams to its customers and fans.
potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
September 01 2010 11:31 GMT
#195
$20 for a season ticket or $30 for VODs, that is ridiculous.
Part of being mature is to accept your loss.
bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
September 01 2010 11:31 GMT
#196
So is a "season" month/tournament or a year? Anyone have a confirmation on this?
Tasteless: "What was it Hans Solo was frozen in? Kryptonite?" Artosis: "Lol, no. Thats the stuff that hurts Batman."
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
September 01 2010 11:32 GMT
#197
wtf. this is the biggest bullshit ever!
keep it deep! @zulison
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
September 01 2010 11:35 GMT
#198
$30 seems pretty steep to charge for the vods, considering literally each of your competitors are offering free vods (some with the option to pay for a higher quality). If you're going to charge for everything, I think gom should seriously consider lowering the price.

As it stands, I unfortunately won't be watching.
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
resilve
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom678 Posts
September 01 2010 11:37 GMT
#199
I don't see how advertistments on the stream would fail to work at least as well as payed passes...

I can't be angry at the fee, its a business after all, I just would rather 'pay' by sitting through 5 mins of adverts every 30 mins than with actual cash - surely to the company there isn't much difference.
Socke Fighting!!!!
SteeJanS
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada111 Posts
September 01 2010 11:38 GMT
#200
I'll go against the majority here and say I'm happy about this.

This almost certainly means no advertisements on the stream. It also means much higher stream quality for those of us who will pay, because there will be not be thousands of leechers on the free stream.

I admit it sucks for students or people on a fixed income, but I guarantee you there will be pirate re-streams and people who transcode the HD stream into VODs, like what happened for MLG Raleigh.
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