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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50114 Posts
August 22 2010 14:49 GMT
#3561
On August 22 2010 23:46 Dommk wrote:
Don't hate the player, hate the game


honestly I feel its the other way around,but again its my opinion.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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raidmaster
Profile Joined July 2010
474 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-22 12:35:40
August 22 2010 14:49 GMT
#3562
Man, though I really respect Idra I'm really stunned of his overall behavior. He has shown no emotions at all. If I would have won 2500 $ I would be at least as happy as Dimaga, probably much more. Seriously, his appearance is also really scary - so pale and skinny. He shouldn't spend so much time playing games, you know, it's good to train much, but I feel he trains too much and this is never a good thing.
Except that, GG Morrow & Idra, congratz, you both played really well. I also loved Tarson & Dimaga play and good manners.
Btw. Tarson - the only person beating Morow :D
Nice tournament.
Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
August 22 2010 14:49 GMT
#3563
No sane Terran player is going to play a macro game against Zerg, especially against Idra, when there are these effective aggressive openings available to them.
funcmode
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia720 Posts
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3564
wow that was so awkward ;D
@funcmode - TPW Mapmaking Team - theplanetaryworkshop.com
Cade)Flayer
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom279 Posts
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3565
Congrats to Morrow. He played a great series and in the final he was the better player and deserved the win. Will be exciting to see the next big tourney.
That boys a monster
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3566
On August 22 2010 23:49 raidmaster wrote:
Man, though I really respect Idra I'm really stunned of his overall behavior. He has shown no emotions at all. If I would have won 2500 $ I would be at least as happy as Dimaga, probably much more. Seriously, he's appearance is also really scary - so pale and skinny. He shouldn't spend so much time playong games, you know, it's good to train much, but I feel he trains too much and this is never a good thing.
Except that, GG Morrow & Idra, congratz, you both played really well. I also loved Tarson & Dimaga play and good manners.
Btw. Tarson - the only person beating Morow :D
Nice tournament.


out of curiosity

does idras prize money go to cj?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3567
On August 22 2010 23:48 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
IdrA fans ought to get used to this kind of loss. IdrA generally doesn't lose any other way (he says so himself all the time). When people beat IdrA, it's almost always because they do weird and ultra aggressive openings. If there ever is a guy who plays passive and macro-oriented and wins, sure he'll deserve a lot of respect. But you can't disrespect every guy before that who takes the more obvious route.


And MorroW just made best use of what is available right now, you cannot blame him or call him bad mannered / greedy, whatever.

Apart from really slight terran opening issues I cannot believe how balanced Starcraft 2 already is without a single balance patch after release. It's frigging amazing!
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Pebble
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany326 Posts
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3568
wow day9 trying to read carmacs lips, lol wtf?
3:50 PM jaedung: scouting is useless in sc2
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 14:51:20
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3569
Day9, you're awesome.

In any case this has been an amazing tournament.
Bleb
Profile Joined August 2010
Croatia278 Posts
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3570
Beside having problems with streams I loved this tournament
Big gz to morrow idra and dimaga

ps isn't TL community beyond whining? stop it please
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 14:52:18
August 22 2010 14:50 GMT
#3571
On August 22 2010 23:48 Shatter wrote:
I wish Idra played differently at least every once in while. It seems way too easy to plan a series against him and come up with counter builds. It sets him at a disadvantage in planning for BoX, in addition to the fact that his games are some of the most popular.


This isn't exactly an accurate comparison but even Jaedong couldn't win a starleague if he 12 hatched every game and is known for 12 hatching every game.

Dimaga has tried different builds (e.g. quick nydus all-in), and we saw how well that turned out. Other than that, there is no other opening Z build besides 14 gas 14 pool and try to scout and adapt that is safe against 3-rax --> 5 rax reaper.
mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
August 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#3572
On August 22 2010 23:50 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 23:48 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
IdrA fans ought to get used to this kind of loss. IdrA generally doesn't lose any other way (he says so himself all the time). When people beat IdrA, it's almost always because they do weird and ultra aggressive openings. If there ever is a guy who plays passive and macro-oriented and wins, sure he'll deserve a lot of respect. But you can't disrespect every guy before that who takes the more obvious route.


And MorroW just made best use of what is available right now, you cannot blame him or call him bad mannered / greedy, whatever.

Apart from really slight terran opening issues I cannot believe how balanced Starcraft 2 already is without a single balance patch after release. It's frigging amazing!


There's more to SC2 than the campaign, you know...

User was temp banned for this post.
MaleficOR
Profile Joined May 2010
United States315 Posts
August 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#3573
On August 22 2010 23:46 Dommk wrote:
Don't hate the player, hate the game


Yep the only silver lining in this borefest of a finals is that terran will most definitely be nerfed.

Oh well GG IdrA is the winner in my book.
Its ihdra, like the beginning of idiot- IdrA
Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
August 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#3574
Why do people complain about this series? MorroW showed amazing micro and macro. The game oh blistering sands was amazing and so were the other games. There is nothing wrong with abusing the features of a race, thats what you do in an RTS. IdrA got completely outplayed in every game. Its so stupid to say that IdrA is the better player when MorroW completely played him on every level. Yeah Idra is a great player but MorroW was clearly better in this series. Do you know how fucking hard it is to do what MorroW did in this series?
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
XothermeK
Profile Joined May 2010
United Arab Emirates245 Posts
August 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#3575
Haha, IdrA got it good, so much for the overconfidence. Maybe MaDFroG couldn't take it but, GO SVENSKA, GO MORROW!
Hokey.pokey
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia6 Posts
August 22 2010 14:51 GMT
#3576
Idra really played poorly in the last match. Can't blame Morrow for doing what he can to win, even if it was the same strat for every game bar final one.

Doesn't prove anything beyond the fact that Morrow took a gamble that paid off; something that occurs in EVERY sc2 game. Could have swung the other way so easily.

Kind of feels like I'm at a 2 party political rally, where everyone is divided between two parties, stating "their preferred party is better and the other is scum" with no reason other than bias (in our case, our preferred race to play).

As a zerg player, I feel cheated by Idra far more than by Morrow, in that Idra wasn't on the ball in the end, made the most mistakes and didn't bring his all to the final game. Morrow Vs Miraga was alot more entertaining, as was Miraga vs Tarson; two TvZ matchups that highlighted several back and forth counter/recounter action that simply wasn't in any of the games between Morrow and Idra. Idra is still a great player, but I just don't think he was giving his all in the final game, unlike Miraga against Tarson in the 3rd/4th place decider set.

Either way, grats to Morrow, Idra, Miraga and Tarson for coming 1st through 4th respectively, and providing hilarity both through the games and as a source of discussion for this thread
BlindDruid
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany653 Posts
August 22 2010 14:52 GMT
#3577
On August 22 2010 23:49 raidmaster wrote:
Man, though I really respect Idra I'm really stunned of his overall behavior. He has shown no emotions at all. If I would have won 2500 $ I would be at least as happy as Dimaga, probably much more. Seriously, he's appearance is also really scary - so pale and skinny. He shouldn't spend so much time playong games, you know, it's good to train much, but I feel he trains too much and this is never a good thing.
Except that, GG Morrow & Idra, congratz, you both played really well. I also loved Tarson & Dimaga play and good manners.
Btw. Tarson - the only person beating Morow :D
Nice tournament.


No, his mindset is " i play to win" - so he hasn`t won money - he lost the money that he would have gained from beiing first.
That`s some attitude you need to have.
Or do you think michael jordan for example said once: Well beeing second is great?
No he didn`t.

Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
August 22 2010 14:52 GMT
#3578
On August 22 2010 23:49 raidmaster wrote:
Man, though I really respect Idra I'm really stunned of his overall behavior. He has shown no emotions at all. If I would have won 2500 $ I would be at least as happy as Dimaga, probably much more. Seriously, he's appearance is also really scary - so pale and skinny. He shouldn't spend so much time playong games, you know, it's good to train much, but I feel he trains too much and this is never a good thing.


Yeah he really should care for himself a bit more in that regard... for his own fucking sake.

He should make a schedule like "1 Push-Up after each game". (And yes, look at that guy, he really needs to start with 1 maximum first :D )
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 22 2010 14:52 GMT
#3579
Holy crap Carmac had a phenomenal wrap up at the end. Very professional and articulate conversation (minus the hearing difficulties). They should have had him do all the post game interviews over TaKe :/
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
August 22 2010 14:53 GMT
#3580
Just want to remind you that in the dimaga x morrow interview, morrow did say reapers are imbalanced
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
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