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sNes.
Profile Joined June 2008
United States377 Posts
August 22 2010 14:41 GMT
#3521
Morrow is also an extremely strong player whose macro and micro is amazglny good..he didn't face roll to victory because he is a strong player who would probally face roll all his bronze level haters who post here
Heroes get remembered but Legends never die
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3522
On August 22 2010 23:30 Crissaegrim wrote:
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On August 22 2010 23:22 Technique wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:19 setzer wrote:
How anyone can have self-respect after doing this is beyond me. Poor day to be a fan.


Wow every1 should get real on TL... Rts = abuse w/e works to its fullest.

Morrow has done so gg he deserves the win .


You dont get how it works. Abuse the advantages of your race is one thing when the game has reached a relatively balanced state is different from just being obnoxious.

If you do anything in BW, no one will complain about you "abusing" your "OP-ness". SC2, a relatively new game, is still unbalanced (its only a month in...so be realistic).

According to you logic, I should just bribe the judges etc to win since it works right?

Sheesh these Machiavellian guys are just so annoying.


Yes, exploiting in-game features is the same as bribing judges.

Just get the hell off the forums with your terrible logic.
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TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3523
You can't blame a Terran player for not playing a macro game against Zerg.
At this state of the game, if the Zerg doesn't messes up his controls and his macro, he will win all macro games.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3524
im definitely pissed but i guess that cant be helped :/ idra probably tilted cause he said in the semifinal interview that he was afraid of morrow cause morrow seems to know how to abuse the weaknesses of zerg.

Then the map pool killed him since idra didnt capitalise on his huge advantage after killing the reaper group on map 3. Add that point that idra got mindfucked by that one hellion, i wouldn't know why he would opt for a baneling nest there though actually. can someone explain that to me?
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3525
On August 22 2010 23:41 Hrafn wrote:
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On August 22 2010 23:39 shlomo wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:36 Plexa wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:34 Jizzlegasm wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:32 Plexa wrote:
If anyone disrespects morrow from here on I will ban you. Morrow is just playing the game the way blizzard has designed it. Don't blame him for wanting to win 5k instead of 2.5k


Is this true for disrespect towards IdrA too? It's rather questionable if bans are only issued for people disrespecting MorroW.

It goes for any player, but i dont see idra getting any hate around here


Because it's obvious IdrA is the better player and just lost to cheesy reaper bs maybe? lolol
MorroW doesn't deserve his win, swedes should be ashamed this guy is representing their country. Ban me if you want, it's worth saying.


Ahahaha are you blind or just an idiot? Wow...


both

User was temp banned for this post.
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3526
On August 22 2010 23:39 shlomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 23:36 Plexa wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:34 Jizzlegasm wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:32 Plexa wrote:
If anyone disrespects morrow from here on I will ban you. Morrow is just playing the game the way blizzard has designed it. Don't blame him for wanting to win 5k instead of 2.5k


Is this true for disrespect towards IdrA too? It's rather questionable if bans are only issued for people disrespecting MorroW.

It goes for any player, but i dont see idra getting any hate around here


Because it's obvious IdrA is the better player and just lost to cheesy reaper bs maybe? lolol
MorroW doesn't deserve his win, swedes should be ashamed this guy is representing their country. Ban me if you want, it's worth saying.

That's harsh, yea Morrow's wins were bullshit but players role is to hurt his opponent as much as possible. If they roles were reversed IdrA would had done the same. It's the race that should be under criticism not the players.
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BlindDruid
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany653 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3527
On August 22 2010 23:34 bodycount wrote:
Terrible finals. A terran wins over a 2x better play with pure abuse 1base all-in's.


Probably the best terran player, when it comes to timing pushes with excellent macro and micro AND mindgames wins.
I don`t see how IdrA was a 2x better player today.
He made mistakes he normally doesn`t do.
So stop hating MorroW when 15.000$ are on the line.
Everyone of you would have done the same - because it`s your job to play like this.
It´s not just a little tournament with your friends to have a good evening, no - it`s 15.000$ on the line, in your job.
What are you telling your sponsors "well, i figured that 5 rax reapers is haerd to defend as zerg an probably imba, so I tried my best with other tactics and lost"?
-Well other terrans were playing this tactiocs too, you did it, why not in the finals?

It`s his job to play, it`s his job to win.
If there is an imballance, then go blame blizzard, not MorroW who simply uses his units to their limits.

floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3528
We need some protoss whiners in here, lest we run the risk of forgetting the entire race exists
Helios.Star
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States548 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3529
On August 22 2010 23:39 shlomo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 23:36 Plexa wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:34 Jizzlegasm wrote:
On August 22 2010 23:32 Plexa wrote:
If anyone disrespects morrow from here on I will ban you. Morrow is just playing the game the way blizzard has designed it. Don't blame him for wanting to win 5k instead of 2.5k


Is this true for disrespect towards IdrA too? It's rather questionable if bans are only issued for people disrespecting MorroW.

It goes for any player, but i dont see idra getting any hate around here


Because it's obvious IdrA is the better player and just lost to cheesy reaper bs maybe? lolol
MorroW doesn't deserve his win, swedes should be ashamed this guy is representing their country. Ban me if you want, it's worth saying.


Didnt he only lose to reapers once? The second game Morrow won Idra stopped the reaper harass, just made mistakes and got out macrod, and in the final game he didnt even use reapers. You people crying are just spurned Idra fanboys who think any strat he loses to is imbalanced. Morrow played better, therefor he won.
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3530
Wait TZZT in the podium.
Wasnt it supposed to have 3 race in sc2?
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
August 22 2010 14:42 GMT
#3531
On August 22 2010 23:40 Swede wrote:
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And less talk about gay strategies and rape


Did anyone else cringe when Apollo said "rape" in front of hundreds of audience members? I was ashamed to be a gamer.

You know, in that thread about gaming and the word rape I was actually against any form of moderation but to be perfectly honest hearing it said live by a caster in front of this many people was really... uncomfortable.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3532
How were MorroW's wins bullshit when he did 3 different follow-ups to one opening and then a totally different opening? That sounds like your average StarCraft series to me.
Orton1
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom2 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3533
I don't get what everyone is complaining about...

All in > Fast Expansion.

I always though that was RTS 101.
"Come on boys, their white flags are no match for our muskets!"
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3534
On August 22 2010 23:41 Jibba wrote:
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On August 22 2010 23:38 Waxangel wrote:
Nice series planning from Morrow, I'm curious what his plan for game five would have been.

It reminded me of HDH1 when Whitera kept going 4gate (I think he 4gated the entire tourney) and on the final Steppes match, went 2gate pressure into FE with a nice wall off. Fantastic counter build and series planning.


Well, to be honest it didn't matter what strat he used on steppes as long as it wasn't 5 rax reaper. It's not good on steppes as most terrans should know. When the only way in your base is also right by the ramp that means you can't actually try to pressure the main because your reapers will get caught.

If morrow tried to reaper on that map he'd have gotten destroyed. It wasn't some ingenious strategy, just common sense on his part.
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Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3535
I don't understand how people are whining about Reapers, when Idra defended against it perfectly fine, except in the first game when he fucked up?
Morrow was the better player today, simple as that.

But lets say Reapers are overpowered, how do you suggest changing them without making them completely useless?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3536
Anyone remember TSL 2 ladder? Morrow literally cheesed his way to number 1 every single game. It was funny because all of his games lasted like 4 minutes.

Good to see him living up to his name in starcraft 2~
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3537
On August 22 2010 23:42 floor exercise wrote:
We need some protoss whiners in here, lest we run the risk of forgetting the entire race exists

Protoss have been irrelevant for a long time now wish Socke was in this, may we would have had something to talk about.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
August 22 2010 14:43 GMT
#3538
theres protoss in sc2?

hahaha. poor dragons, getting extinct in both versions =[
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Therick
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway324 Posts
August 22 2010 14:44 GMT
#3539
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Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
August 22 2010 14:44 GMT
#3540
I dont think the reaper usage in the finals are cheese - reapers have been very popular in this tournament so any participants would be very well aware of that. None of the barracks are especially early and most often the Z player did scout the barrack with tech lab.

Reapers are hard to use - being able to master their usage and using that ability in a game is completely legit. Just as idra's muta trick + banelings completely annihilated thor+marine combo gives a legit victory...

One can argue you lose respect of all zerg players since 50 banelings just makes your entire bio army useless.

"Hideen tech" is very common, idra did the same on the metolopolis where he hid his spire at the corner of his nat.

Idra's loss, as day9 and apollo pointed out, might have to do with his failing macro: his queens were at almost full energy and his resource piled up to > 1000/1000. As a strong macro player, I believe he relies heavily on scout info (idra is VERY good with it) to get away from drone pumps - Morrow simply noticed that and acted according with ov hunts + hidden factory.
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