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Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 22 2010 15:59 GMT
#3681
What has this discussion turned into.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Twist-O-Fate
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada38 Posts
August 22 2010 16:03 GMT
#3682
Im attempting to put an end to it without the powers of moderation
Read not to contradict and to confute; nor to believe and take for granted; nor to find talk and discourse; but to weigh and consider.
Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
August 22 2010 16:08 GMT
#3683
On August 23 2010 00:50 Angryhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 23:38 Azarkon wrote:
Let's not talk about imbalance.

The important thing is that Morrow did what all the other Terrans in the tournament could not: defeat Idra and Dimaga. This shows him to be the strongest TvZ in the entire tournament, bar none. You cannot dismiss the fact that 2nd and 3rd place were both taken by Zergs. If Terran was truly so easy to play, why couldn't Strelok, Tarson, Lucifron, Sarens, etc. beat the Zergs?

Oh, and he also defeated TLO.

He totally deserves this.

Congrats Morrow. This tournament will surely put your name on the map when it comes to SC 2.


+1+1+1 I completly agree with you.


"If Terran was truly so easy to play, why couldn't Strelok, Tarson, Lucifron, Sarens, etc. beat the Zergs?"

because idra and dimaga are superior skilled players, i think people can somewhat agree to that...
a zerg need to play at a higher level to beat a terran to make up for the imbalances, mainly those of early game, idra and dimaga were able to do that against all you mentioned except morrow

morrow played at the same skill level as dimaga and idra, and i'd say even at a higher level than idra in the finals...idra clearly wasn't playing his best in the finals due to whatever reasons, i'd like to believe he coulda beat the 5rax reaper thingy if he played at his absolutely best cuz he is more skilled...but he kinda choked

still, grats to morrow, well deserved win, beating dimaga and idra even with imba terran is no easy feat since dimaga and idra's skill level is really high...
omnonn
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 16:12:32
August 22 2010 16:09 GMT
#3684
maybe the tournament organizators deserve some critics too.they put there a moderator who is good for one or two laughs but doesnt reflect seriousness and is more incompetent. trying to mention idras birthday maybe would have worked with a more extroverted guy on the stage but not with idra. the situation was completely awkward and i think idra didnt feel well either. bringing the finalists who probably only heard about women in some starcraft guide discussion up with 2 hot chicks was probably the most hilarious thing of the tournament. i wonder what the organizers had think about this when they planned it. another thing is that there seemed to be no make up team what is imo a must have at place like this. atleast the casters were really good with day9 and apollo. maybe i want too much from a tournament of the size of this
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
August 22 2010 16:14 GMT
#3685
Anyone could help me with a link, where you can watch the games? I know its ended, just came home
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Tiorda
Profile Joined May 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 16:22:20
August 22 2010 16:22 GMT
#3686
On August 22 2010 02:38 Kennigit wrote:
Morrow wins: i have to close 40 threads about Terran OP
Idra wins: i have to close 40 threads from smug punks who talk about how people over reacted about Terran OP.

Chose my poison!

lol, too true.
hallihg
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland61 Posts
August 22 2010 16:22 GMT
#3687
I thought it was ok to mention Idra's birthday before the match against Tarson, but to make a couple of thousands of people sing him a birthday song, with him on stage right before a matchup was so ridiculous and could have affected him, but fortunately for the organizers it didnt. It was idiotic though.
que sera sera
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-22 16:27:32
August 22 2010 16:26 GMT
#3688
Locking this piece of shit down. Totally derailed after already being the biggest bantrap in TL history.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
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