EPTWho cares? Fuck IdrA. If it were my money, I'd disqualify him too.
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
Who cares? Fuck IdrA. If it were my money, I'd disqualify him too. | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:41 huameng wrote: If that guy who said season really meant a week, he would have used the word week. I'm pretty sure by "season" they mean the rest of the IEM qualifiers... which end in a week. | ||
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CrossRaven
8 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:38 Boonesbane wrote: No...just no. Their rules, however vague, are very clear on the fact that a player must have 4 penalty points to be banned for a week. IdrA didn't have 4 penalty points and he was banned for one week. Once ESL stopped operating withing the rules they and the players agreed to operate under, players have no reason to continuing following said rules. In other words, once you have been banned for no reason, it becomes clear that following the rules will not stop you from being banned. Yes, and he has since insulted them TWICE afterwards, so if he had 2 before(the bigt thing apparently gave him 2) and gets 1 for each of those...well he has 4 now and is therefore suspended, that is what I have been saying. To clarify, my point is that he shouldn't have been suspended before, but he can easily be suspended now for things he has said about the ESL. Though why they would want to do that based on those things being stemmed from their own fuck up is a mystery to everyone here. Oh wait, no, it's because they have no idea what they are doing and would apparently rather take the heat of the outraged people on here because idra has pissed them off before. Like I said, this really is pretty stupid since everyone involved is to blame. Idra for...being idrA and ESL for having the organizational skills of a giant group of rocks. | ||
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potato.prophet
United States25 Posts
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:44 kajeus wrote: Yeah! Let's have tournaments with inconsistent rules and ban players without justification! Honestly, I'm not sure why you guys are getting so worked up about "rules" here. There's plainly no injustice being committed. IdrA was a dick throughout the tourney and they don't want him around anymore. Who cares? Fuck IdrA. If it were my money, I'd disqualify him too. | ||
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Boonesbane
United States170 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:44 CrossRaven wrote: Yes, and he has since insulted them TWICE afterwards, so if he had 2 before(the bigt thing apparently gave him 2) and gets 1 for each of those...well he has 4 now and is therefore suspended, that is what I have been saying. To clarify, my point is that he shouldn't have been suspended before, but he can easily be suspended now for things he has said about the ESL. Though why they would want to do that based on those things being stemmed from their own fuck up is a mystery to everyone here. Oh wait, no, it's because they have no idea what they are doing and would apparently rather take the heat of the outraged people on here because idra has pissed them off before. Like I said, this really is pretty stupid since everyone involved is to blame. Idra for...being idrA and ESL for having the organizational skills of a giant group of rocks. I guess we'll have to just agree to disagree because you're not getting/listening to my point, and lets face it, you're probably just trolling anyways. | ||
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acceL.
United States109 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:05 CrossRaven wrote: "Insults via IRC, ICQ, e-mail or other media may be penalized, providing a connection to the ESL is given and provable." From the MSN chat that was pasted, he called them "fucking idiots", and on here he's called them a joke. I would say that is 2 insults and there is his ban, even if he didn't do anything before he has earned one now. If this were a legal thing, they'd have so many ways to nail idrA on this, but since it's a PR thing they should really just work it out, because this beyond stupid for a fucking computer game tourney. I didn't know it was against the rules to insult tournament admins in non tournament-sanctioned events. I'm pretty sure I can so whatever the hell I want about anyone anytime in my own personal conversations and not get penalized for it (free country much). As for saying StarCraft is just a "fucking computer game" you clearly don't belong here. Go play Xbox or something super casual. The majority of us here take this game very seriously and it some cases (IdrA) it's their job. I think most sports are boring as hell to watch, but I don't go around belittling it in front of sportsfans. | ||
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Guilt
United States48 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:40 Faxmachine wrote: There was no official post saying they changed it, all of a sudden it's just "2+2=4 = week ban" What on earth happened to the seasonal ban then? I even went back to page 33 or whatever to make sure they didn't edit out there, which is something I expected. page 37 http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/1on1/regular_season_cup_3/rules/ "After obtaining 4 penalty points: 1 week barrage" NationalESL Admin page 39 He's gotten his 2 yellows, and now he's gotten his red by the system for getting too many PP. 2+2=4, 4 PP = 1 week ban. | ||
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:45 Shatter wrote: Yeah! Let's have tournaments with inconsistent rules and ban players without justification! Give me a break. IdrA is a flagrant prick. He's been a prick over and over again in this tourney. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would expect this to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. | ||
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FatkiddsLag
United States413 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:47 kajeus wrote: Give me a break. IdrA is a flagrant prick. He's been a prick over and over again in this tourney. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would expect this to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. i would assume this post gets some sort of warning | ||
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:47 kajeus wrote: Give me a break. IdrA is a flagrant prick. He's been a prick over and over again in this tourney. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would expect this to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. aw you're mad i insulted your statistics thats cute | ||
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Guilt
United States48 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:47 kajeus wrote: Give me a break. IdrA is a flagrant prick. He's been a prick over and over again in this tourney. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would expect this to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. whether or not that first line is true, his personality is obviously something the esports community doesn't mind. look at any tournaments/games IdrA is involved in-the turnout is huge because everyone wants to watch him play, even if it is to see him lose. people like watching the guy everyone hates, especially when he has the skills to back up most of what he says | ||
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rockon1215
United States612 Posts
He said fuck a few times inside a community very heavily used to the word fuck, enjoy the word fuck and use it quite often. He was penalized for being insulting I do not see the logic occurring here. | ||
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Shatter
United States1401 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:47 kajeus wrote: Getting rid of a player because he is a "prick" is not appropriate justification for what is supposed to be a reputable tournament. There are rules laid out for BM and if they don't follow their own rules then it cannot be a fair tournament. Give me a break. IdrA is a flagrant prick. He's been a prick over and over again in this tourney. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would expect this to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. | ||
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Phisk
166 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:47 kajeus wrote: Give me a break. IdrA is a flagrant prick. He's been a prick over and over again in this tourney. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would expect this to bite him in the ass. Fuck him. Its quite obvious that you are ridiculously biased. Dont bring your Idra-hate baggage here, that's not what the discussion is about. Idra got 2 pts for refusing a streamer, then 2 more points out of thin air. | ||
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huameng
United States1133 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:44 Shatter wrote: If that guy who said season really meant a week, he would have used the word week. Why? He wants to sound mean. Don't try to find mistakes in every little thing they do -_- | ||
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Xiphiasar
United States78 Posts
Neways, woo edrama! | ||
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virgozero
Canada412 Posts
In my honest opinion if this was truly about esports then it should be about electronic sport and ThatS IT. not electronic personality. did the other players complain about idra talking? no, so why the f do they give a ship ? | ||
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kajeus
United States679 Posts
That doesn't mean tourney organizers gotta be ok with it. Their position is completely intuitive and obvious. There's no injustice here, and there's nothing surprising. | ||
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NeoLearner
Belgium1847 Posts
On August 16 2010 16:30 Rainmaker5 wrote: I think it's time for a $5000 dollar best of 5 to settle who's right here. Hehe, isn't that the solution to pretty much everything? "I disagree with what you are sayng on random subject A" "Ok then. I will bet you 15k dollars to show you I am, in fact, right." "Agreed. We meet at dawn and duel to the death." "Quite right old chap, it's the honorable thing to do" The Starcraft scene is such a throwback to the 1800's  Full of drama, banishment and duels to the death on the subject of insults and honor...On the subject of serious business: To quote the first line of the ESL rules: treat others as you would like to be treated! and All insults ... will be punished. Source: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/sc2/1on1/regular_season_cup_3/rules/ I know BigT has mentioned multiple times he was only joking. But would these "insults" also count? | ||
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