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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 20:53:57
August 07 2010 20:50 GMT
#161
On August 07 2010 10:00 konicki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 08:11 HuK wrote:
On August 07 2010 07:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2010 07:39 HuK wrote:
All im saying is I don't like the maps how is that blowing things out of proportion lol... yea maybe not to u but to me they have.


neways we've had this discussion before glad you decided to do what you wish to degrade gameplay for "shiny (new?) maps"


I'm done arguing about this. I talk to hundreds of players and your the only one that hates these maps because "macro maps are dumb" or w/e you told me. Macro wars are fun. Sorry you like your one base strategies, they are a blast to watch, but it's time to do some macro wars.

For the last time this is not about you. The sponsors pay because fans watch. Fans like "shiny new maps." You seem to think the show revolves around you and it does not. Be a man, and learn the new maps. It's not hard really.

O yeah and there's always the fact Lost Temple is a BW map (which you say all BW maps suck and this is not BW) and was a severely broken BW map at that. Why don't you bitch about that again?

Edit: Also don't forget it's the BW maps which show the mapmakers on our team what works or does not. In the long run it will only help.


Now I know why people always complain of how you misquote, tell lies, and take things out of context. I never ever said anything close to "macro maps are dumb". Glad you have no idea what your talking about.

I don't think it is I was simply saying I didn't like the maps but if you want to throw out misquotes and plain lies FINE. I never said BW maps suck, but BW maps in SC2 which is a completely different game with completely different mechanics is retarded especially since most people have played each of them maybe 1-3 times. I said Lost Temple can be abused same way in SC1 with terran drops/cliffs etc. but it was still wayyyyy better the maps your putting in the tournament.


Sure in the long run there will be custom maps made by people who know what they are doing and they will be really good for the game, but as of right now taking SC1 maps and throwing them into SC2 like "its np" is retarded.

Please come with truth next time you try to "quote" me.

OK, one long post later. This i understand a little more.

And you could have put it this way to start with, but you don't think BW remakes have a place in SC2.

I can understand why you would think that. They are different games and SC2 has added completely new mechanics.

Some players frankly really enjoy a BW remake because of the nostalgia they have for it, so this at the very least should be respected. Also, a cometitive BW re-make is a natural first step for the map making community in SC2.

Again, if you dont think BW remakes belong in SC2 lets make a point of it by getting you to help test other custom melee maps that we /iCCup Map Team/ are throwing together.
I'm all for introducing new community made maps into tournaments, but you guys really should take things slower than this. If players, like HuK, can't support innovation for whatever reason then that's only going to hurt the map making community in the long run. Take it slow, we don't even understand the game properly yet and when you decide to introduce new maps into a big tournament make fucking sure they're functional - else you'll end up with FAOIFAOIFAOI again.

This iccup map making team is a bit of a joke to be completely honest with you. You can't design good maps without an understanding of how the game works. The top players barely understand how the game really works and strategies are changing weekly. How can you design good solid competitive maps when things are so volatile? Realise that foreign mapping already has a large negative stigma from broodwar and that foreign mapping (i.e. non korean) causing controversy in events is just going to hurt it's credibility in the eyes of the spectators, players and other tournament organisers.
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ThisIsJimmy
Profile Joined July 2004
United States546 Posts
August 08 2010 20:57 GMT
#162
Hey, when does this start today?? TL calendar says 2 hours from now (7 pm EST) but the OP says 6 pm EST.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 21:00:19
August 08 2010 20:58 GMT
#163
On August 09 2010 05:57 Silent`Assassin wrote:
Hey, when does this start today?? TL calendar says 2 hours from now (7 pm EST) but the OP says 6 pm EST.


6PM EST

Poll time:

Poll: Who will advance?

Sheth (6)
 
75%

Drewbie (2)
 
25%

8 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance?

(Vote): Sheth
(Vote): Drewbie



Poll: Who will advance?

LzGaMeR (6)
 
67%

ThisIsJimmy (3)
 
33%

9 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance?

(Vote): LzGaMeR
(Vote): ThisIsJimmy



Poll: Who will advance?

HuK (5)
 
56%

CatZ (4)
 
44%

9 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance?

(Vote): HuK
(Vote): CatZ



Poll: Who will advance?

KawaiiRice (6)
 
55%

Machine (5)
 
45%

11 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance?

(Vote): KawaiiRice
(Vote): Machine

Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 21:52:15
August 08 2010 21:34 GMT
#164
Hey, if you don't mind can I post a link to previews I did for the matchups today?

I can PM you a link before I put it here, I don't want to spam.

EDIT: Ok, for previews of the series' today, check out this link!
http://sc2o.com/a/ITLpreview.asp
i c u
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 21:58:06
August 08 2010 21:39 GMT
#165
On August 09 2010 06:34 ChThoniC wrote:
EDIT: Ok, for previews of the series' today, check out this link!
http://sc2o.com/a/ITLpreview.asp


Very cool! Awesome preview ! Check this out everyone!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 22:02:37
August 08 2010 22:02 GMT
#166
Thank you for the compliment
I'll put up recaps after the games, as well.
This should be an awesome set of games, love lots of these players.
i c u
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 08 2010 22:04 GMT
#167
We are live on iCCup TV!
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Rasky
Profile Joined July 2010
United States406 Posts
August 08 2010 22:04 GMT
#168
Where is the stream?
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
August 08 2010 22:24 GMT
#169
score 0-0?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 22:24:49
August 08 2010 22:24 GMT
#170
On August 09 2010 07:04 Rasky wrote:
Where is the stream?


On August 09 2010 07:04 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
We are live on iCCup TV!


Right there ! It's also under the calendar.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 09 2010 00:03 GMT
#171
The Round of 4 is on!

+ Show Spoiler +

Drewbie vs. Machine
HuK vs. ThisIsJimmy

Poll: Who will advance to the finals?

Machine (3)
 
75%

Drewbie (1)
 
25%

4 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance to the finals?

(Vote): Drewbie
(Vote): Machine



Poll: Who will advance to the finals?

HuK (4)
 
80%

ThisIsJimmy (1)
 
20%

5 total votes

Your vote: Who will advance to the finals?

(Vote): HuK
(Vote): ThisIsJimmy


Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
August 09 2010 00:05 GMT
#172
Here's a quick preview of Drewbie vs Machine, coming up soon.
http://sc2o.com/a/ITLpreview2.asp
i c u
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
August 09 2010 00:30 GMT
#173
On August 08 2010 05:50 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2010 10:00 konicki wrote:
On August 07 2010 08:11 HuK wrote:
On August 07 2010 07:58 iCCup.Diamond wrote:
On August 07 2010 07:39 HuK wrote:
All im saying is I don't like the maps how is that blowing things out of proportion lol... yea maybe not to u but to me they have.


neways we've had this discussion before glad you decided to do what you wish to degrade gameplay for "shiny (new?) maps"


I'm done arguing about this. I talk to hundreds of players and your the only one that hates these maps because "macro maps are dumb" or w/e you told me. Macro wars are fun. Sorry you like your one base strategies, they are a blast to watch, but it's time to do some macro wars.

For the last time this is not about you. The sponsors pay because fans watch. Fans like "shiny new maps." You seem to think the show revolves around you and it does not. Be a man, and learn the new maps. It's not hard really.

O yeah and there's always the fact Lost Temple is a BW map (which you say all BW maps suck and this is not BW) and was a severely broken BW map at that. Why don't you bitch about that again?

Edit: Also don't forget it's the BW maps which show the mapmakers on our team what works or does not. In the long run it will only help.


Now I know why people always complain of how you misquote, tell lies, and take things out of context. I never ever said anything close to "macro maps are dumb". Glad you have no idea what your talking about.

I don't think it is I was simply saying I didn't like the maps but if you want to throw out misquotes and plain lies FINE. I never said BW maps suck, but BW maps in SC2 which is a completely different game with completely different mechanics is retarded especially since most people have played each of them maybe 1-3 times. I said Lost Temple can be abused same way in SC1 with terran drops/cliffs etc. but it was still wayyyyy better the maps your putting in the tournament.


Sure in the long run there will be custom maps made by people who know what they are doing and they will be really good for the game, but as of right now taking SC1 maps and throwing them into SC2 like "its np" is retarded.

Please come with truth next time you try to "quote" me.

OK, one long post later. This i understand a little more.

And you could have put it this way to start with, but you don't think BW remakes have a place in SC2.

I can understand why you would think that. They are different games and SC2 has added completely new mechanics.

Some players frankly really enjoy a BW remake because of the nostalgia they have for it, so this at the very least should be respected. Also, a cometitive BW re-make is a natural first step for the map making community in SC2.

Again, if you dont think BW remakes belong in SC2 lets make a point of it by getting you to help test other custom melee maps that we /iCCup Map Team/ are throwing together.
I'm all for introducing new community made maps into tournaments, but you guys really should take things slower than this. If players, like HuK, can't support innovation for whatever reason then that's only going to hurt the map making community in the long run. Take it slow, we don't even understand the game properly yet and when you decide to introduce new maps into a big tournament make fucking sure they're functional - else you'll end up with FAOIFAOIFAOI again.

This iccup map making team is a bit of a joke to be completely honest with you. You can't design good maps without an understanding of how the game works. The top players barely understand how the game really works and strategies are changing weekly. How can you design good solid competitive maps when things are so volatile? Realise that foreign mapping already has a large negative stigma from broodwar and that foreign mapping (i.e. non korean) causing controversy in events is just going to hurt it's credibility in the eyes of the spectators, players and other tournament organisers.


Having one tournament out of hundreds to test new maps is not that bad, although I agree that it would fit better in a small tournament, since they haven't been tested yet and we don't have that much understanding of the game.

the iCCup map team is putting a lot of effort and their maps are well done, I'm excited to see how their maps, specially the BW versions, are going to work with SC2.
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 09 2010 09:47 GMT
#174
so what happened with the finals?
:O
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 09 2010 11:06 GMT
#175
On August 09 2010 18:47 choboPEon wrote:
so what happened with the finals?


They will be on the 15th at 6PM EST !
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
August 09 2010 11:44 GMT
#176
awesome !
:O
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 09 2010 12:46 GMT
#177
On August 09 2010 20:44 choboPEon wrote:
awesome !


I'm really excited for sure! So who is everyone taking to win?

Poll: Who will become the first ITL Grand Prix Champion?

HuK (18)
 
53%

Machine (16)
 
47%

34 total votes

Your vote: Who will become the first ITL Grand Prix Champion?

(Vote): Machine
(Vote): HuK



Poll: Who will walk away with third?

Drewbie (13)
 
59%

ThisIsJimmy (9)
 
41%

22 total votes

Your vote: Who will walk away with third?

(Vote): Drewbie
(Vote): ThisIsJimmy

Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Nilpotenca
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia9 Posts
August 09 2010 13:00 GMT
#178
any chance to get machines replays?
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
August 09 2010 13:28 GMT
#179
Replays will not be released. But there is VOD's of Machine in the Round of 8 and Round of 4
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
ChThoniC
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States536 Posts
August 10 2010 05:27 GMT
#180
Hey everyone, I wrote up recaps of all the Round of 8 games complete with amazing screenshots.
Whether you saw the games or missed them, I hope you enjoy re-living the exciting parts or getting a grasp on what happened without spending over two hours watching every game.
Semi-final writeups will be done soon, but for now read about the exciting Round of 8 matchups here.
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