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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 17 2010 09:13 GMT
#441
It might be, but as it is no one in Europe or the US seems to be interested in setting up a Euro vs. US match that would include players like Idra and Dimaga. The first on-stage SC 2 Beta tourney ended up happening in China...
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
April 17 2010 09:13 GMT
#442
Whoever kept saying korea server > american server?? It surely doesnt show.. pretty dissapointing play from Korea ( USA Made them look like a joke )
USA FIGHTING @ @ ! ! ~
gj nick greg and dan ^_^
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:14:57
April 17 2010 09:14 GMT
#443
Lz, you do realize Idra plays primarily on Asia, right? He was the one who said Asia server > America server.

Not sure about Tasteless & Artosis.
curi
Profile Joined May 2009
United States313 Posts
April 17 2010 09:14 GMT
#444
On April 17 2010 18:13 Lz wrote:
Whoever kept saying korea server > american server?? It surely doesnt show.. pretty dissapointing play from Korea ( USA Made them look like a joke )
USA FIGHTING @ @ ! ! ~
gj nick greg and dan ^_^


Don't idra, tasteless, and artosis practice on the asian server though?
twitch.tv/curi42
mighty_honour_korea
Profile Joined March 2010
Scotland198 Posts
April 17 2010 09:15 GMT
#445
On April 17 2010 18:13 Lz wrote:
Whoever kept saying korea server > american server?? It surely doesnt show.


Er, haven't the three US players been playing on the Korean server?
nglt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States187 Posts
April 17 2010 09:15 GMT
#446
idk why anyone would be booing idra. even if u dont like him u should be cheering for him to win since hes representing NA/EU players. i dont care who you are, if u can take down chinese/korean pros then im rooting for ya. nice to see NA/EU players being able to compete.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
April 17 2010 09:17 GMT
#447
On April 17 2010 18:15 nglt wrote:
idk why anyone would be booing idra. even if u dont like him u should be cheering for him to win since hes representing NA/EU players. i dont care who you are, if u can take down chinese/korean pros then im rooting for ya. nice to see NA/EU players being able to compete.


Nationalism is useless though. Root for who you enjoy watching.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 17 2010 09:21 GMT
#448
On April 17 2010 18:15 nglt wrote:
since hes representing NA/EU players.

Hes an american living in korea how is he representing EU?
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
vvvVec
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway85 Posts
April 17 2010 09:24 GMT
#449
Cause in China, white ppl = EU.
G4MR
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States371 Posts
April 17 2010 09:31 GMT
#450
I've watched these fucking commercials 3-4 times in a row lol I'm dying going to sleep
www.G4MR.net personal blog!
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
April 17 2010 09:32 GMT
#451
On April 17 2010 18:31 G4MR wrote:
I've watched these fucking commercials 3-4 times in a row lol I'm dying going to sleep


Isn't it over for the day? I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's it until tomorrow.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 17 2010 09:36 GMT
#452
So from the translations it seems they're having a show match tonight instead of the real match because Team US decided they were too tired to play for real.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
April 17 2010 09:38 GMT
#453
anyone going to livestream these showmatches or?
Commentator
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:47:27
April 17 2010 09:39 GMT
#454
Lol Artosis got 6-pooled by Loner (Chinese Terran) playing Zerg. Loner being cute brings a drone to build a spine crawler, and violates Artosis's queen -_-
hellitsaboutme
Profile Joined March 2010
Singapore118 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:41:21
April 17 2010 09:40 GMT
#455
On April 17 2010 17:46 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 17:38 hellitsaboutme wrote:
On April 17 2010 17:00 Klive5ive wrote:
On April 17 2010 16:59 hellitsaboutme wrote:
IdrA is so lame. He was top non-korean player. Why he masses couple of units every game? Never seen him playing a nice game -_-

I think he is not skilled. Just 24/7 gamer like most of korean middle level pro gamers.

Wtf are you talking about.
Get a clue before posting nonsense like this.
He just beat one of the top asian players, clearly he knows what he's doing.


If you haven't watched IdrA's other games he always masses roach or roach/hydra. In contrast Dimaga or Haypro play diversily and still win games.
My point is that IdrA is not creative at all, he is not able to come up with something new and plays one strat every game. That means he plays one strat 24/7 and tries to make it perfect since he cannot be flexible and respond accordingly to unordinary strats.

By lame I don't mean noob. I just mean his games are lame.

Well for a start you changed your tune; "I think he is not skilled" is not the same as lame.

It's not just Idra who uses roach/hydra in many match-ups. It's hardly the fault of players if a boring combination is strong in all match-ups that's the fault of Blizzard.

Also, Dimaga and Haypro are a different style of player to Idra. Long term they aren't as good.

Dimaga blinds counters and uses the meta-game a lot, this doesn't lead to strong overall play (read Nonys recent post). Yes he might get 5 surprise wins in a row with the same baneling/ling bust but then someone finds a counter and he just loses for ages.
Did you watch Dimaga against Jinro recently? He lost a game where he was MILES ahead by a-attacking into a planetary fortress.
Trying stuff out is fun and all but it's not the way to consistently win Starcraft games.


Ok, my bad. I should've said 'not creative' instead of 'unskilled'. But for me good skilled player doesn't mean 'he wins games' only. I understand skill as experienced+flexible+creative+stable+micro+macro... so on. So what I mean is IdrA has found a good viable strat and spamming games with it to make it perfect in his hands. And I don't like it. If someone comes up with unorthodox strategy or makes some risky move IdrA ends up losing by saying 'cheesy noob'.

And please don't bring flash here. His games are intense and interesting to watch. He doesn't mind doing bunker rush, drops and so on. Also look how Fantasy plays, he is really creative. I think IdrA never made KESPA's top-100 because he was just good at standard play with correct timings and solid BOs as other tons of korean progamers.Those who have deep understanding of game make it to top.

Nevertheless IdrA's games are still lame to watch.
PeterDoe
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom53 Posts
April 17 2010 09:40 GMT
#456
Artosis ZvZ another fail...
When there's a shadow, you follow the sun.When there is love, then you look for the one. And for the promises, there is the sky. And for the heavens are those who can fly.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 17 2010 09:41 GMT
#457
On April 17 2010 18:38 GTR wrote:
anyone going to livestream these showmatches or?

The matches are over for Today.
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IdrA
< Lost Temple > EVE
Tasteless < Steppes of War > Susiria
Artosis < Steppes of War > Check

Winners league style.
IdrA < Blistering Sands > Check
KOR resurrected Check?
IdrA < Lost Temple > Check
Because Check lost again the KOR team loses.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
simplycool
Profile Joined January 2010
China6 Posts
April 17 2010 09:46 GMT
#458
WOW...coldplay!!
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 09:56:46
April 17 2010 09:55 GMT
#459
On April 17 2010 18:40 hellitsaboutme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 17:46 Klive5ive wrote:
On April 17 2010 17:38 hellitsaboutme wrote:
On April 17 2010 17:00 Klive5ive wrote:
On April 17 2010 16:59 hellitsaboutme wrote:
IdrA is so lame. He was top non-korean player. Why he masses couple of units every game? Never seen him playing a nice game -_-

I think he is not skilled. Just 24/7 gamer like most of korean middle level pro gamers.

Wtf are you talking about.
Get a clue before posting nonsense like this.
He just beat one of the top asian players, clearly he knows what he's doing.


If you haven't watched IdrA's other games he always masses roach or roach/hydra. In contrast Dimaga or Haypro play diversily and still win games.
My point is that IdrA is not creative at all, he is not able to come up with something new and plays one strat every game. That means he plays one strat 24/7 and tries to make it perfect since he cannot be flexible and respond accordingly to unordinary strats.

By lame I don't mean noob. I just mean his games are lame.

Well for a start you changed your tune; "I think he is not skilled" is not the same as lame.

It's not just Idra who uses roach/hydra in many match-ups. It's hardly the fault of players if a boring combination is strong in all match-ups that's the fault of Blizzard.

Also, Dimaga and Haypro are a different style of player to Idra. Long term they aren't as good.

Dimaga blinds counters and uses the meta-game a lot, this doesn't lead to strong overall play (read Nonys recent post). Yes he might get 5 surprise wins in a row with the same baneling/ling bust but then someone finds a counter and he just loses for ages.
Did you watch Dimaga against Jinro recently? He lost a game where he was MILES ahead by a-attacking into a planetary fortress.
Trying stuff out is fun and all but it's not the way to consistently win Starcraft games.


Ok, my bad. I should've said 'not creative' instead of 'unskilled'. But for me good skilled player doesn't mean 'he wins games' only. I understand skill as experienced+flexible+creative+stable+micro+macro... so on. So what I mean is IdrA has found a good viable strat and spamming games with it to make it perfect in his hands. And I don't like it. If someone comes up with unorthodox strategy or makes some risky move IdrA ends up losing by saying 'cheesy noob'.

And please don't bring flash here. His games are intense and interesting to watch. He doesn't mind doing bunker rush, drops and so on. Also look how Fantasy plays, he is really creative. I think IdrA never made KESPA's top-100 because he was just good at standard play with correct timings and solid BOs as other tons of korean progamers.Those who have deep understanding of game make it to top.

Nevertheless IdrA's games are still lame to watch.


You are so stupid it hurts. You do know that the macro playing style takes lot of effort and skill to pull off correctly. To be able to deal with huge number of cheese and extreme early aggression you need great micro/scouting/game sense. Any idiot can play standard but it takes a lot skill to make standard hold up to cheese/early aggression. Same reason why flash can pull a 14CC and not get punished for it; his game sense is good and scouts impeccably. No one seems to be able to surprise him or keep up with him in mechanics so they get rolled.

In the game vs check, Idra did a great job holding off check's early ling aggression and punished very well by sniping the queen. Then he let his macro kick in and rolled him with a bigger, better upgraded roach army, before check could recover. If you think what he did takes less skill/game sense than a Bling bust all-in then I don't know what to tell you.

Just cause the guy is a bad mannered dick to everyone, doesn't mean he isn't a skilled player

Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
April 17 2010 09:59 GMT
#460
^^ thanks you saved me some effort. xD
Maybe stupid was a little harsh, but yeah you don't have much knowledge of SC if you think
"IdrA never made KESPA's top-100 because he was just good at standard play"
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
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