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cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 15:34:37
April 23 2010 15:33 GMT
#1041
edit: double post.
iounas
Profile Joined July 2008
409 Posts
April 23 2010 16:31 GMT
#1042
When are the first games starting? It will be on youtube? I dont care about livestream..
IdrA: stalkers actually do negative damage. when you shoot a marine with a stalker it gains health.
Midj
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada253 Posts
April 23 2010 17:27 GMT
#1043
On April 24 2010 01:31 iounas wrote:
When are the first games starting? It will be on youtube? I dont care about livestream..


Yes they will all be posted on youtube in full definition goodness, I believe thats on the first page.

Games may not be posted for a few more days as some are being played over the weekend and recent battle.net turbulence may postpone some matches.
I enjoy watching more than playing.
NukemDukem
Profile Joined April 2010
United States133 Posts
April 23 2010 17:53 GMT
#1044
HD its still not too late for us to split the money and run
Always strive for last place. its in the Bible. The last show be first
omninmo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 18:15:27
April 23 2010 18:15 GMT
#1045
(T)(us)KawaiiRice FIGHTING.
可爱大米 加油!
Hush
Profile Joined March 2010
United States24 Posts
April 23 2010 18:25 GMT
#1046
When are these games going to be I haven't seen any updates, I ask because I see it was suppose to start on the 21st I'm a bit ocnfused.
Naga
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada6 Posts
April 23 2010 18:38 GMT
#1047
Players have from the 21st to the 27th to play their games. The only thing starting on the 21st is the period where games can be played, it doesn't mean the games definitely are starting then.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
April 23 2010 19:13 GMT
#1048
woot go orb!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Hold-Lurker
Profile Joined October 2007
United States403 Posts
April 23 2010 19:13 GMT
#1049
On April 23 2010 16:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 16:16 Usul wrote:
On April 23 2010 09:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
I just wanted to clarify that player's who picked random MUST pick random as their race.

An exception is given to Tasteless, because he told us prior that he has certain matchups where he prefers a certain race. After ro16, we will clarify what those matchups exactly are.


I dont get why Tasteless gets a special treatment. Seems unfair to me. You should ask the other random players, if they have certain matchups, too, where they prefer a certain race, then. But that would be unfair to all the other players. The only fair way to go is everyone sticks with their decision.



Tasteless requested this while Invitations were still being sent out. It is my fault for creating the brackets showing Tasteless as random. He actually plays Z for certain matchups and P for others. I will update the actual matchups when I can. It is my knowledge that most major tournaments allow players to choose certain races for certain matchups. Therefore Tasteless is not receiving any special treatment.

IE: When a player says he will play P, it is assumed for PvP, PvZ, PvT. When a player says he will play R (random) it is assumed for RvP, RvZ, RvT. And of course, there are players who will request dual races, such as PvT, PvZ, TvP. In the end the opponent will always know what race to prepare for in the tournament. (In this case day9 and Tasteless are brothers, and day9 is playing random so it doesn't really apply). Once again, as soon as we get confirmation from Tasteless as to which race matchups he wants, we will update the thread.


Is this really true? Major tournaments allow you to choose races for matchups? In Starcraft or all RTS? That seems unlikely to me - what if (hypothetically speaking) the current (meta)game was imbalanced such that P>T, T>Z, and Z>P. Two race changing players going up against one another could not get matched up.

I mean I don't think it really matters in this situation anyway, but for future events I think it's a bad idea.
KawaiiRice
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2914 Posts
April 23 2010 19:17 GMT
#1050
On April 24 2010 03:15 omninmo wrote:
(T)(us)KawaiiRice FIGHTING.
可爱大米 加油!


Thanks brah!~ :3
@KawaiiRiceLighT
Usul
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany150 Posts
April 23 2010 20:48 GMT
#1051
On April 24 2010 04:13 Hold-Lurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 16:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
On April 23 2010 16:16 Usul wrote:
On April 23 2010 09:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
I just wanted to clarify that player's who picked random MUST pick random as their race.

An exception is given to Tasteless, because he told us prior that he has certain matchups where he prefers a certain race. After ro16, we will clarify what those matchups exactly are.


I dont get why Tasteless gets a special treatment. Seems unfair to me. You should ask the other random players, if they have certain matchups, too, where they prefer a certain race, then. But that would be unfair to all the other players. The only fair way to go is everyone sticks with their decision.



Tasteless requested this while Invitations were still being sent out. It is my fault for creating the brackets showing Tasteless as random. He actually plays Z for certain matchups and P for others. I will update the actual matchups when I can. It is my knowledge that most major tournaments allow players to choose certain races for certain matchups. Therefore Tasteless is not receiving any special treatment.

IE: When a player says he will play P, it is assumed for PvP, PvZ, PvT. When a player says he will play R (random) it is assumed for RvP, RvZ, RvT. And of course, there are players who will request dual races, such as PvT, PvZ, TvP. In the end the opponent will always know what race to prepare for in the tournament. (In this case day9 and Tasteless are brothers, and day9 is playing random so it doesn't really apply). Once again, as soon as we get confirmation from Tasteless as to which race matchups he wants, we will update the thread.


Is this really true? Major tournaments allow you to choose races for matchups? In Starcraft or all RTS? That seems unlikely to me - what if (hypothetically speaking) the current (meta)game was imbalanced such that P>T, T>Z, and Z>P. Two race changing players going up against one another could not get matched up.

I mean I don't think it really matters in this situation anyway, but for future events I think it's a bad idea.



There is a good point. Lets say player A is protoss, but wants to be zerg against terran. Player B is terran, but wants to be zerg against protoss. So whats going to happen now if they face each other? ZvZ, even though poth players would not mind playing with their main race against Z? Or does just one player randomly change? What if player B is terran, but wants to play protoss against zerg? How do these big tournaments handle this?
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
April 23 2010 20:55 GMT
#1052
On April 24 2010 05:48 Usul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 04:13 Hold-Lurker wrote:
On April 23 2010 16:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
On April 23 2010 16:16 Usul wrote:
On April 23 2010 09:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
I just wanted to clarify that player's who picked random MUST pick random as their race.

An exception is given to Tasteless, because he told us prior that he has certain matchups where he prefers a certain race. After ro16, we will clarify what those matchups exactly are.


I dont get why Tasteless gets a special treatment. Seems unfair to me. You should ask the other random players, if they have certain matchups, too, where they prefer a certain race, then. But that would be unfair to all the other players. The only fair way to go is everyone sticks with their decision.



Tasteless requested this while Invitations were still being sent out. It is my fault for creating the brackets showing Tasteless as random. He actually plays Z for certain matchups and P for others. I will update the actual matchups when I can. It is my knowledge that most major tournaments allow players to choose certain races for certain matchups. Therefore Tasteless is not receiving any special treatment.

IE: When a player says he will play P, it is assumed for PvP, PvZ, PvT. When a player says he will play R (random) it is assumed for RvP, RvZ, RvT. And of course, there are players who will request dual races, such as PvT, PvZ, TvP. In the end the opponent will always know what race to prepare for in the tournament. (In this case day9 and Tasteless are brothers, and day9 is playing random so it doesn't really apply). Once again, as soon as we get confirmation from Tasteless as to which race matchups he wants, we will update the thread.


Is this really true? Major tournaments allow you to choose races for matchups? In Starcraft or all RTS? That seems unlikely to me - what if (hypothetically speaking) the current (meta)game was imbalanced such that P>T, T>Z, and Z>P. Two race changing players going up against one another could not get matched up.

I mean I don't think it really matters in this situation anyway, but for future events I think it's a bad idea.



There is a good point. Lets say player A is protoss, but wants to be zerg against terran. Player B is terran, but wants to be zerg against protoss. So whats going to happen now if they face each other? ZvZ, even though poth players would not mind playing with their main race against Z? Or does just one player randomly change? What if player B is terran, but wants to play protoss against zerg? How do these big tournaments handle this?

I believe if the players can't decide on a matchup they would do a double blind race pick. I think that's what they did for the TSL but I can't find the rules.
twitter: @terrancem
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-23 21:04:42
April 23 2010 21:03 GMT
#1053
^ I have thought about that as well but usually it's just one player who ends up counter picking the other and when that does actually happens most of the time the players just make up their mind pick a race and go with it. I don't think there has ever been a case where the players start acting childish and keep switching every time the other player switch. Like player A just decides to stick with Protoss and play vs. T or what ever counterpick B has.

As for how big tournaments handle them, there is the 1 race only rule, winner of game1 has to play the same race or players separately announce before hand what race they will play that particular match.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
April 23 2010 21:33 GMT
#1054
On April 24 2010 04:13 Hold-Lurker wrote:
Is this really true? Major tournaments allow you to choose races for matchups?

Even pros can racepick. The most recent instance I can remember is Savior picking T against Gorush. You have to announce your choice ahead of time (and without knowing what your opponent will pick, though of course in general you can be pretty certain), but it's allowed.
Rola
Profile Joined November 2009
Chile27 Posts
April 24 2010 00:16 GMT
#1055
C'MON!!! WE NEED GAMES!!!! OR AT LEAST SOME UPDATESS!!!!! ROCK ON!!

(btw, great job husky and hd, you rock!)
go go go!
Feefee
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada556 Posts
April 24 2010 00:36 GMT
#1056
On April 24 2010 04:13 Hold-Lurker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2010 16:29 HDstarcraft wrote:
On April 23 2010 16:16 Usul wrote:
On April 23 2010 09:47 HDstarcraft wrote:
I just wanted to clarify that player's who picked random MUST pick random as their race.

An exception is given to Tasteless, because he told us prior that he has certain matchups where he prefers a certain race. After ro16, we will clarify what those matchups exactly are.


I dont get why Tasteless gets a special treatment. Seems unfair to me. You should ask the other random players, if they have certain matchups, too, where they prefer a certain race, then. But that would be unfair to all the other players. The only fair way to go is everyone sticks with their decision.



Tasteless requested this while Invitations were still being sent out. It is my fault for creating the brackets showing Tasteless as random. He actually plays Z for certain matchups and P for others. I will update the actual matchups when I can. It is my knowledge that most major tournaments allow players to choose certain races for certain matchups. Therefore Tasteless is not receiving any special treatment.

IE: When a player says he will play P, it is assumed for PvP, PvZ, PvT. When a player says he will play R (random) it is assumed for RvP, RvZ, RvT. And of course, there are players who will request dual races, such as PvT, PvZ, TvP. In the end the opponent will always know what race to prepare for in the tournament. (In this case day9 and Tasteless are brothers, and day9 is playing random so it doesn't really apply). Once again, as soon as we get confirmation from Tasteless as to which race matchups he wants, we will update the thread.


Is this really true? Major tournaments allow you to choose races for matchups? In Starcraft or all RTS? That seems unlikely to me - what if (hypothetically speaking) the current (meta)game was imbalanced such that P>T, T>Z, and Z>P. Two race changing players going up against one another could not get matched up.

I mean I don't think it really matters in this situation anyway, but for future events I think it's a bad idea.


I'm pretty sure that at least in professional WC3 you were allowed to racepick, precisely because some players were convinced that a certain matchup was imbalanced (orc vs undead was it?). Obviously there'd be a problem if two race pickers play a game that's rock paper scissors as you describe, but such a game would be a crappy RTS anyways.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 24 2010 00:53 GMT
#1057
I've always wondered what you do if both players are race pickers who absolutely refuse to play anything other than the match up they like.. for example they both play pvz and zvp, but who is the declared p, and who is the declared z? And what if they won't compromise!
towelie
Profile Joined January 2006
Germany171 Posts
April 24 2010 01:06 GMT
#1058
rock paper scissors @ countdown
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
April 24 2010 02:50 GMT
#1059
Wish I could liquidbet on this!
Replay or GTFO
skyeyesattelite
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada56 Posts
April 24 2010 02:50 GMT
#1060
TheLittleOne all the way!!! =]
Very good 1st place prize too !
AHHHH GEEEE GEEEE!!!!
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