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On April 06 2010 00:27 metaldragon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2010 19:00 IdrA wrote:On April 05 2010 18:39 metaldragon wrote:On April 05 2010 18:29 IdrA wrote: lol game 2 was the cc cancel, the "rest of the series" was 1 more game, and the cauthon match was a day after the patch that cut tech lab costs which changed the timings for all his cheeses, including allowing him to rush banshee off 1 gas. And the Finals Vs LZgamer? Crushed him game 1 Game two he went a bit all in pulling SCVs twice which was a little "cheesy" but hey its something you need to be prepared for. You lose your cool and lost to vikings/marauder game 3. LZ is good, Hell he's one of the best US players right now tourney wise but that strat did way more dmg than it should have and only because you where still raging over the previous game. You're Good Idra everyone knows your good but you lose your cool way to fast over things that you should expect or be prepared for. you get paid to win games bro. Jaedong cheeses Flash Cheeses Boxer sure as hell cheesed but they WON and at the end of the days its about results. Stop raging about cheese keep your cool and win some games. ill put up $500 if he's willing to go for 1k if not ill sponsor a tourney sometime next week for some decent prize money. you know why jaedong flash and boxer cheese? cuz its a good way to win. it doesnt require tilting or raging to lose to cheese, having not seen that viking build before i woulda lost to it whether he allined me the game before or not. i bitch about it because it increases the luck factor in the game, which i dislike, and i feel its a way for bad players to get wins they dont deserve. but everyone loses to cheese, if it couldnt win people wouldnt use it. its not a comment on mental state, and if it seems like i lose to cheese more than others its mainly because i get cheesed more than others because they cant beat me straight up. Idra i understand that "winning strait up" every game might be a dream come come true....you dont get paid to win strait up and neither do they. You get paid to win by any means necessary. You Let your PRIDE get in the way of your results. You know whay flash can get off those macro builds so easily now days? because he used to be cheesy as fuck and guess what? people respect the cheese. You lose 60% of the mental edge in most of your games because your predictable Because your to "good" to cheese (which is retarded) may not like cheese but all the BEST have done it and will continue to do it because SC is not just a game about mechanics its a game about MIND games and results. You're a WORSE player for having so much disdain for cheese not a better one. You don't like "risk" or games where players use "risky" builds against you because you have no balls and you cant play safe vs every build so you lose games. YOU GET PAID TO WIN you don't get paid to win strait up you don't get paid to win honorably You will lose to a player that has as much or even a little less skill that you if they are willing to take more risk. Start being a little cheezy and no one could touch you. Stay predictable and you will never reach your full potential. what are you babbling about i went 2 fac vult drop first game vs nony in tsl, you cant get much cheesier than that as terran. i baneling allined one of the guys i played in this event. the idea that i dont cheese is a myth, i dont like it but i recognize its power and take advantage of it when i feel its useful.
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but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart
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On April 06 2010 00:43 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 00:27 metaldragon wrote:On April 05 2010 19:00 IdrA wrote:On April 05 2010 18:39 metaldragon wrote:On April 05 2010 18:29 IdrA wrote: lol game 2 was the cc cancel, the "rest of the series" was 1 more game, and the cauthon match was a day after the patch that cut tech lab costs which changed the timings for all his cheeses, including allowing him to rush banshee off 1 gas. And the Finals Vs LZgamer? Crushed him game 1 Game two he went a bit all in pulling SCVs twice which was a little "cheesy" but hey its something you need to be prepared for. You lose your cool and lost to vikings/marauder game 3. LZ is good, Hell he's one of the best US players right now tourney wise but that strat did way more dmg than it should have and only because you where still raging over the previous game. You're Good Idra everyone knows your good but you lose your cool way to fast over things that you should expect or be prepared for. you get paid to win games bro. Jaedong cheeses Flash Cheeses Boxer sure as hell cheesed but they WON and at the end of the days its about results. Stop raging about cheese keep your cool and win some games. ill put up $500 if he's willing to go for 1k if not ill sponsor a tourney sometime next week for some decent prize money. you know why jaedong flash and boxer cheese? cuz its a good way to win. it doesnt require tilting or raging to lose to cheese, having not seen that viking build before i woulda lost to it whether he allined me the game before or not. i bitch about it because it increases the luck factor in the game, which i dislike, and i feel its a way for bad players to get wins they dont deserve. but everyone loses to cheese, if it couldnt win people wouldnt use it. its not a comment on mental state, and if it seems like i lose to cheese more than others its mainly because i get cheesed more than others because they cant beat me straight up. Idra i understand that "winning strait up" every game might be a dream come come true....you dont get paid to win strait up and neither do they. You get paid to win by any means necessary. You Let your PRIDE get in the way of your results. You know whay flash can get off those macro builds so easily now days? because he used to be cheesy as fuck and guess what? people respect the cheese. You lose 60% of the mental edge in most of your games because your predictable Because your to "good" to cheese (which is retarded) may not like cheese but all the BEST have done it and will continue to do it because SC is not just a game about mechanics its a game about MIND games and results. You're a WORSE player for having so much disdain for cheese not a better one. You don't like "risk" or games where players use "risky" builds against you because you have no balls and you cant play safe vs every build so you lose games. YOU GET PAID TO WIN you don't get paid to win strait up you don't get paid to win honorably You will lose to a player that has as much or even a little less skill that you if they are willing to take more risk. Start being a little cheezy and no one could touch you. Stay predictable and you will never reach your full potential. what are you babbling about i went 2 fac vult drop first game vs nony in tsl, you cant get much cheesier than that as terran. i baneling allined one of the guys i played in this event. the idea that i dont cheese is a myth, i dont like it but i recognize its power and take advantage of it when i feel its useful.
Like the baneling bust you did that one match (v. Filthy)
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On April 06 2010 00:45 Fayth wrote: but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart i recognize that their build won, they didnt. do you really think i accomplished something by attack moving banelings into that guy?
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This sure has derailed.
So we aren't going to see a grudge match then?
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On April 06 2010 01:06 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 00:45 Fayth wrote: but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart i recognize that their build won, they didnt. do you really think i accomplished something by attack moving banelings into that guy? you keep insulting lz, and last game he posted he beats you in a game that couldnt be any more straight up
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On April 06 2010 01:07 On_Slaught wrote: This sure has derailed.
So we aren't going to see a grudge match then?
if someone is willing to back idra up, who knows, maybe khan would
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On April 06 2010 01:12 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 01:06 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 00:45 Fayth wrote: but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart i recognize that their build won, they didnt. do you really think i accomplished something by attack moving banelings into that guy? you keep insulting lz, and last game he posted he beats you in a game that couldnt be any more straight up You're not supposed to use vikings to harass zerg its a rule dude!!!
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On April 06 2010 01:12 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 01:06 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 00:45 Fayth wrote: but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart i recognize that their build won, they didnt. do you really think i accomplished something by attack moving banelings into that guy? you keep insulting lz, and last game he posted he beats you in a game that couldnt be any more straight up ya expanding blind off 3 marines with no wall no bunker and no pf isnt risky at all
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On April 06 2010 01:17 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 01:12 Fayth wrote:On April 06 2010 01:06 IdrA wrote:On April 06 2010 00:45 Fayth wrote: but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart i recognize that their build won, they didnt. do you really think i accomplished something by attack moving banelings into that guy? you keep insulting lz, and last game he posted he beats you in a game that couldnt be any more straight up ya expanding blind off 3 marines with no wall no bunker and no pf isnt risky at all blind?
dude you use the exact same build every single ZvT u play, it's not blind, it's absolutely viable vs you
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within that same quote we were discussing me baneling allining someone how dumb can you be
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ROFL i am tempted to back idra for this, it really is a shame though b/c i'd still be rooting for smuft i'm pretty sure
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IdrA if u think Asia servers are far ahead why dont you play on these servers?
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i do, i only play us server in the morning while no ones on asia
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Artosis
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On April 06 2010 01:56 Artosis wrote: Lololol
+1
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This is why you don't let Harry Potter play videogames
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On April 06 2010 01:06 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 00:45 Fayth wrote: but you fail to aknowledge someone who does it, very smart i recognize that their build won, they didnt. do you really think i accomplished something by attack moving banelings into that guy?
obviously. if you aren't capable of baneling rushing someone, then the other person can make better predictions vs the likely strategy you are to play.
On April 06 2010 01:17 IdrA wrote: ya expanding blind off 3 marines with no wall no bunker and no pf isnt risky at all
starcraft is risk, chaos, random. there are random events which effect every single game you play. why does this upset you?
you bash someone for expanding blind off 3 marines but constantly bash cheese rushes and allins and applaud yourself for playing cautious to prove you're the better player. so tell me.. why is fast expanding risky against you?
congratulations on winning
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