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I am not good SC2 player but I like spectating streams, I like to watch replays and so on and I couldn't skip to notice that every time IdrA loses it is because of cheese/allin (whatever you pros calling that).
Well I would really like to know what are tactics which are not cheese against him from IdrA's point of view? I can't remember him ever saying "gg wp" or something, it's always whine about cheese, imbalance and such. Did he EVER lost and said "gg / well played" or did he ever said he got outplayed?
I guess IdrA himself won't answer this, but anyone else knows (from some interviews, chat, forum posts, etc) what IdrA thinks are mannered/non cheesy tactics against him?
I don't want to believe he is such a prick who thinks he NEVER lost straight up game and that he never got outplayed. There must be at least ONE tactic that he losses of which he thinks is mannered.
Thanks in advance! =)
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from everyone's experience of playing against IdrA, it really is just any foreigner winning against him is using a cheese, anything he doesn't see coming, anything that counters his builds is a cheese
unless he's playing vs a korean, then it's not a cheese, cuz well it's a korean, and koreans are good
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I see. Thanks for the answer. It explains a lot.
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I really wanted to see smuft vs idra.
Smuft is already good he wouldnt have to play much to compete at his best.. its just sad he wont do the $500.. im sure some others would be willing to up idras $500.. but i think $5000 is just a dodge.
Theres no reason smuft cant practice for a few hours every day. hes just admitting idra > him by saying this
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On April 06 2010 02:55 StarcraftMaster wrote:
I really wanted to see smuft vs idra.
Smuft is already good he wouldnt have to play much to compete at his best.. its just sad he wont do the $500.. im sure some others would be willing to up idras $500.. but i think $5000 is just a dodge.
Theres no reason smuft cant practice for a few hours every day. hes just admitting idra > him by saying this
No, he's not admitting that, but as Incontrol (and you) said he is dodging.
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lol smuft isn't dodging, the time smuft would usually be using playing poker would now use it to practice to play against IdrA, and it certainly isn't worth 500$, hence why he's raising to 5k, which is fine, if IdrA is guaranteed to win, I have no idea why he wouldn't risk 5k....
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On April 06 2010 03:11 Fayth wrote:
lol smuft isn't dodging, the time smuft would usually be using playing poker would now use it to practice to play against IdrA, and it certainly isn't worth 500$, hence why he's raising to 5k, which is fine, if IdrA is guaranteed to win, I have no idea why he wouldn't risk 5k....
even laymen have a rudimentary understanding of risk of ruin
if idra even has the ability to scrape up $5000, of which i'm skeptical, it's obviously ridiculous to suggest he has a 100% chance of winning. even if he has, say, a 90% chance of winning, it might not be feasible to gamble the entirety of his net worth on a single game.
what is more telling, however, is the handful of people who have sufficient cash to wager that amount on the game and plenty of experience doing so, none of whom seem to be interested in taking idras action
i definitely would not buy idras action and this thread is the only thing i know about him
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I'd bet my entire net worth on ilnp to take Idra(or anyone) down in a BO 7.
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lol maynard ur so dumb xD
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On April 06 2010 03:32 Lz wrote:
rofl @ this thread...
Hi 
I want to see smuft drop it to like $2/1.5k and Idra probably would get backed.
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On April 06 2010 03:11 Fayth wrote:
lol smuft isn't dodging, the time smuft would usually be using playing poker would now use it to practice to play against IdrA, and it certainly isn't worth 500$, hence why he's raising to 5k, which is fine, if IdrA is guaranteed to win, I have no idea why he wouldn't risk 5k....
No, he is dodging, but this doesn't mean he is without a reason to do so.
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On April 06 2010 03:34 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 03:11 Fayth wrote:
lol smuft isn't dodging, the time smuft would usually be using playing poker would now use it to practice to play against IdrA, and it certainly isn't worth 500$, hence why he's raising to 5k, which is fine, if IdrA is guaranteed to win, I have no idea why he wouldn't risk 5k.... No, he is dodging, but this doesn't mean he is without a reason to do so.
At the end of the day; they're both dodging its kind of complex.
Smuft won't play under $5k
Idra won't play above $500
Only difference is Smuft doesn't care about losing money  & Idra is confident he'd win.
If he's that confident why not take home $10k? Easy money right?
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Smuft played a long long time in the beta right almost up to 6 patches? How much money did he lose there in getting to rank 1 platinum. I'd say idrA has to match that just to be on the same level as Smuft! (/sarcasm, this is a joke).
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Reading this thread all I see is "Nuh-uh" and "uh-huh"'s back and forth. But it's really funny to read.
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On April 06 2010 03:34 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 03:11 Fayth wrote:
lol smuft isn't dodging, the time smuft would usually be using playing poker would now use it to practice to play against IdrA, and it certainly isn't worth 500$, hence why he's raising to 5k, which is fine, if IdrA is guaranteed to win, I have no idea why he wouldn't risk 5k.... No, he is dodging, but this doesn't mean he is without a reason to do so.
or IdrA is also dodging it, but he also has a reason to do so
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I'm just glad that idra won't be invited on future Smuft's Team Battles because of 2 reasons:
1. it will be maybe be more interesting because idra IS good player and he can win tournament like last time
2. we won't have to watch his douchebag manner which is like totally lame. good players never had need to speak like idra (all those shit about strategies, cheese etc). That's not trash talk, that's just doucbag spoiled brat coming from him which is sad to see from someone skilled as him.
and I can't wait for new tournaments to watch (:
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On April 06 2010 03:51 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2010 03:34 Squeegy wrote:On April 06 2010 03:11 Fayth wrote:
lol smuft isn't dodging, the time smuft would usually be using playing poker would now use it to practice to play against IdrA, and it certainly isn't worth 500$, hence why he's raising to 5k, which is fine, if IdrA is guaranteed to win, I have no idea why he wouldn't risk 5k.... No, he is dodging, but this doesn't mean he is without a reason to do so. or IdrA is also dodging it, but he also has a reason to do so
Indeed. I think Idra's reason is stronger though, since $5000 is quite the sum of money. But I mean no offence to smuft at all. I'd do the same thing if I were in that situation.
I'd still like to see this match as I like them both!
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I'd be disappointed if this Idra doesn't get invited back to this event. The guy went 7-0 and as far as I saw, played by all the "rules" during the game (gg at end of game, no trash talking during the game, etc.). It would lower the honor/respectability of winning the next tournament if the current winner isn't allowed to come back.
As for opportunity cost, it seems valid given Smuft's absence from the game since the last few patches. Sure, he could practice a lot and maybe have a shot at beating Idra again, but it feels like he just doesn't enjoy playing the game (and/or has other things going on atm). I don't think Smuft said that he would 100% beat Idra, just like Idra didn't say that he would 100% beat Smuft.
However, I'm sure there are other current players who would take Idra up on a Bof5 for $500! LZGamer, gogo! Day9 cast!
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On April 06 2010 04:37 Hold-Lurker wrote:
I'd be disappointed if this Idra doesn't get invited back to this event. The guy went 7-0 and as far as I saw, played by all the "rules" during the game (gg at end of game, no trash talking during the game, etc.). It would lower the honor/respectability of winning the next tournament if the current winner isn't allowed to come back.
As for opportunity cost, it seems valid given Smuft's absence from the game since the last few patches. Sure, he could practice a lot and maybe have a shot at beating Idra again, but it feels like he just doesn't enjoy playing the game (and/or has other things going on atm). I don't think Smuft said that he would 100% beat Idra, just like Idra didn't say that he would 100% beat Smuft.
However, I'm sure there are other current players who would take Idra up on a Bof5 for $500! LZGamer, gogo! Day9 cast!
I doubt anyone not poker player would take on the offer, I don't think there's anyone who legitimately thinks he'd be a favorite over IdrA and the guys who could take on it are probably too nitty to spew around like that.
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