EPTHow Do I beat hackers? - Page 4
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
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AkashSky
United States257 Posts
On December 26 2014 12:33 Centerfold wrote: How are people dealing with these issues? It's way too difficult. What the other people have said is the correct way to beat them. You are essentially playing at a handicap, so you need to win through better macro, positioning, etc. However, this is not possible in PvP. The PvP matchup has so many build order losses in the game. If you open phoenix, you build order loss anybody who opens oracle. If you both open phoenix, you should still lose to the maphacker if they position better, (since they can see your units) and Phoenixs hard counters phoenix, so if they have even a single phoenix advantage they will win with a majority of their phoenix still alive. Pilipili even said on stream the other day, Maphackers almost always win PvP. He even claimed that if was to play vs Rain (one of the best macro toss) 10 games in a row with map hacks, he would win every single game by simply giving him a build order loss each game. PvP is too fragile of a matchup at the moment. | ||
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GiveMeCake
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Centerfold
Canada45 Posts
On December 29 2014 07:12 AkashSky wrote: What the other people have said is the correct way to beat them. You are essentially playing at a handicap, so you need to win through better macro, positioning, etc. However, this is not possible in PvP. The PvP matchup has so many build order losses in the game. If you open phoenix, you build order loss anybody who opens oracle. If you both open phoenix, you should still lose to the maphacker if they position better, (since they can see your units) and Phoenixs hard counters phoenix, so if they have even a single phoenix advantage they will win with a majority of their phoenix still alive. Pilipili even said on stream the other day, Maphackers almost always win PvP. He even claimed that if was to play vs Rain (one of the best macro toss) 10 games in a row with map hacks, he would win every single game by simply giving him a build order loss each game. PvP is too fragile of a matchup at the moment. How so? Phoenix wins against oracle easily; the oracle gets intercepted by the phoenixes and the phoenix count for the player who started building them earlier begins to skyrocket, leading to a big advantage. | ||
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GiveMeCake
148 Posts
On December 29 2014 07:57 Centerfold wrote: How so? Phoenix wins against oracle easily; the oracle gets intercepted by the phoenixes and the phoenix count for the player who started building them earlier begins to skyrocket, leading to a big advantage. I thought the same thing the first time I read it because of how he worded it, he does mean that the player who opens phoenix wins the BO. | ||
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