• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:06
CET 00:06
KST 08:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners2Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!20$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1276 users

WCS Season 3 Maps Preview - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
79 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 01 2014 03:00 GMT
#21
On July 01 2014 11:32 SC2John wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 11:21 stuchiu wrote:
That wall isn't zergling proof. The trick is to pray to Hyvaa and make 70 speedlings and attack.


This is literally the first thing to happen in my testing games with Zero.

Triple hatch before pool -> baneling bust FTWWWWW.


May Hyvaa light my path in killing this greedy Toss. Amen.
Moderator
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
July 01 2014 03:07 GMT
#22
This is beautiful, just what I was hoping for. Thanks!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
sc2isnotdying
Profile Joined June 2014
United States200 Posts
July 01 2014 03:10 GMT
#23
This was a great preview, so thanks to the folks at TL.

Question: Does anybody know if Proleague is going to update its map pool when WCS/GSL do?
Jowj
Profile Joined June 2012
United States248 Posts
July 01 2014 03:19 GMT
#24
On July 01 2014 11:31 Gevrosche wrote:
I kinda doubt the quad hatch build will be used a pro level play, but I'm probably gonna try it out since I'll have something new to play vs CC first.


Its actually not AS good in Nimbus as it is on some other maps that were added, so definitely try it on a few other maps that you are curious about. The build has actually been used in high level play by Tilea and KawaiiRice when they both played actively at a high GM level. They used it in tournaments to some success, but obviously there's not games against top Koreans.

At any rate it is a ton of fun and creep hatcheries in general are underused I think so I did my write up on that. :3 PM me if you have questions about it because its a super fun build IMO.

On July 01 2014 11:03 Psione wrote:
Great content guys. Well done.


Thanks Psione :3 Thanks so much for using community maps this go round, I'm sure it means a lot to their creators to have them included like this.
Strategy
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
July 01 2014 03:44 GMT
#25
On July 01 2014 11:53 User15937 wrote:
Geez...did two-spawn maps get eaten by zerglings or something?

The last TL map contest did not accept 2p maps as entries, and 3 of these maps were taken from that contest's finalists.
vibeo gane,
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
July 01 2014 04:25 GMT
#26
Nimbus looks really good. Look forward to this new season.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
DnCL
Profile Joined May 2013
86 Posts
July 01 2014 04:27 GMT
#27
It's fun to see that, fills me with hope of new plays
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
July 01 2014 04:38 GMT
#28
what the heck is a "creep hatch?" Is this something new?!
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 04:54:11
July 01 2014 04:52 GMT
#29
On July 01 2014 13:38 Joedaddy wrote:
what the heck is a "creep hatch?" Is this something new?!

You place it out on the map to spread creep faster, it's been done before.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Tilea
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand4 Posts
July 01 2014 05:00 GMT
#30
The 4hatch build which I did (and which was very similar/identical to what KawaiiRice did) is kind of significantly different from that. From just looking at that I don't feel like I would like it as much (though I've also never done it) - but 4hatch before pool is definitely something which can be done at higher/more competitive levels of play. I did it in WCS v Illusion, as well as regularly doing it in ZvT/P in high masters Korean ladder @_@
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 05:15:43
July 01 2014 05:15 GMT
#31
Wow, great post! I can't wait to defend those hellbat pushes and to blind scv rush 4 hatching zergs! I'm so hyped for next season! Thanks again TLStrat!
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
July 01 2014 06:27 GMT
#32
Very nice article
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
wishr
Profile Joined February 2012
Russian Federation262 Posts
July 01 2014 06:42 GMT
#33
Please, make map images clickable!
* Only girls complain about balance! *
MatKay
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany30 Posts
July 01 2014 07:07 GMT
#34
Looks nice
just a Fan | All the best for TotalBiscuit!
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 01 2014 07:11 GMT
#35
Great article!
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
July 01 2014 07:51 GMT
#36
I don't get why 3 player maps are supposed to favour one player over another, could someone please explain?
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
JunkkaGom
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)855 Posts
July 01 2014 08:44 GMT
#37
Very insightful article. Well done!
Workload overwhelming. It is a good day to work
casty
Profile Joined July 2014
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 09:10:04
July 01 2014 09:01 GMT
#38
On July 01 2014 16:51 Edpayasugo wrote:
I don't get why 3 player maps are supposed to favour one player over another, could someone please explain?


C2n+1 rotational simetries lead to inequidistances.

To put an easy example in ZvZ, if both players send their 1st ov to their opponents natural (assuming they are both sent in the correct direction), one player's ov will reach the natural several seconds before the other one does so.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
July 01 2014 10:43 GMT
#39
The winner of TLMC4 is not in the new map pool? Or am i blind?
Freelancer veteran
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
July 01 2014 10:44 GMT
#40
On July 01 2014 19:43 Liman wrote:
The winner of TLMC4 is not in the new map pool? Or am i blind?


That's correct. It may be less of a matter of "Did Blizzard think it was bad?" moreso than a 5-player map being too daring/unorthodox for ladder and WCS.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
WardiTV Mondays #58
CranKy Ducklings27
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
22:00
Masters Cup 150 Open Qual
davetesta35
Liquipedia
LAN Event
18:00
Day 3: Ursa 2v2, FFA
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 294
ProTech127
JuggernautJason83
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 499
Artosis 162
NaDa 14
Counter-Strike
Foxcn127
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe124
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu498
Other Games
tarik_tv14915
fl0m740
shahzam481
FrodaN289
ToD213
Pyrionflax175
C9.Mang0157
Mew2King75
PPMD24
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL114
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 52
• musti20045 38
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile111
• Azhi_Dahaki5
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2343
• Ler85
League of Legends
• TFBlade1155
Other Games
• imaqtpie1131
• Scarra574
• Shiphtur169
Upcoming Events
OSC
12h 54m
LAN Event
15h 54m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 3h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 10h
LAN Event
1d 15h
IPSL
1d 18h
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
1d 20h
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
2 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.