EPTOn June 01 2013 19:18 StatixEx wrote:
mate i have this same problem now EVERY zvt, Its not the fact that the comp they have is a problem its their remax. Banes are a one shot punch and when you use them or morph them you deplete so much gas when you need to do it again you dont really have the econ because.......
they drop with a couple of those hellbats and you take significant damage to your econ, and usually at the time of the game where everything is a mess anyway (if they do it early it can ruin you as well) every says put down spines, put down spores . . .well i saw moonglade mass do this like literally 5 or 6 spores asround each baseand its DIDNT MATTER. The hellbats got in did the damage. At the time i thought it was good . . .but in the meantime moons standing army wasnt that big and the other guys tanks marauders thors and hellbats part of their main army rolled him, after he killed it twice . .. the terran just kept coming.
I do believe mutalisks are the way to go but you just cant seem to get enough of them, they directly counter the hellbats, tanks and marauders and so some extent with mboxing thors . . .but its the handfull of fucking marines which kill them, the maraduers they produce stop the banes and if you try to focus with the mutas the thor splash rapes the mutas and the lings cant get the surround they need and roaches are good but they dont seem to do the dps you need. SO
Vipers. Blinding cloud. Ive been having a bit of success with this but its the whole thing of having the econ to support it they can basically harass for free and we cant get into their lines really, and if we do with the lisks 300m of marines. and 3 turrets is enough where we have spent all of our gas and usually most of the minerals to get numbers up enough to do actual damage.
Yes i hear you man, but i dont think its the comp it seems to be the remax of the terran which is the problem, they seem to be able to produce just as much shit at us which by default is way more cost efficient]
here are some of my reps where i won (it is getting to that point where i want to play as terran just to do this)
Now im not a masters player but i watch a hell of a lot of streams and everyone is having an issue with this to a point, but you have to nail it exactly right and you arent allowed to make mistakes, a-moving WILL get you killed
1. BC the tanks first and a thors (need 5 vipers fully charged ive found)
2 A-move your army into their just to get close to exvery thing is fighting and magic box 1 thor leave these lisks
3 - MACRO MORE ARMY, roaches may be good as they live longer or lings to morph purely to banes
4. select hydras and target thors
5- a-move everything closer and send the remaining viper energy on the tanks
now this doesnt always work but ive been satisfied to see a few marauders and a couple of tanks left over where another round of lings cleans it up BUT
they come at you with a very similar sized push . . .and i cant stop that usually. Im really really trying to find a way to beat this at my skill level and im prepared to sit and practice with someone if they want to frind me, but which terran wants to give this strangle hold up!
http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/41600
mate i have this same problem now EVERY zvt, Its not the fact that the comp they have is a problem its their remax. Banes are a one shot punch and when you use them or morph them you deplete so much gas when you need to do it again you dont really have the econ because.......
they drop with a couple of those hellbats and you take significant damage to your econ, and usually at the time of the game where everything is a mess anyway (if they do it early it can ruin you as well) every says put down spines, put down spores . . .well i saw moonglade mass do this like literally 5 or 6 spores asround each baseand its DIDNT MATTER. The hellbats got in did the damage. At the time i thought it was good . . .but in the meantime moons standing army wasnt that big and the other guys tanks marauders thors and hellbats part of their main army rolled him, after he killed it twice . .. the terran just kept coming.
I do believe mutalisks are the way to go but you just cant seem to get enough of them, they directly counter the hellbats, tanks and marauders and so some extent with mboxing thors . . .but its the handfull of fucking marines which kill them, the maraduers they produce stop the banes and if you try to focus with the mutas the thor splash rapes the mutas and the lings cant get the surround they need and roaches are good but they dont seem to do the dps you need. SO
Vipers. Blinding cloud. Ive been having a bit of success with this but its the whole thing of having the econ to support it they can basically harass for free and we cant get into their lines really, and if we do with the lisks 300m of marines. and 3 turrets is enough where we have spent all of our gas and usually most of the minerals to get numbers up enough to do actual damage.
Yes i hear you man, but i dont think its the comp it seems to be the remax of the terran which is the problem, they seem to be able to produce just as much shit at us which by default is way more cost efficient]
here are some of my reps where i won (it is getting to that point where i want to play as terran just to do this)
Now im not a masters player but i watch a hell of a lot of streams and everyone is having an issue with this to a point, but you have to nail it exactly right and you arent allowed to make mistakes, a-moving WILL get you killed
1. BC the tanks first and a thors (need 5 vipers fully charged ive found)
2 A-move your army into their just to get close to exvery thing is fighting and magic box 1 thor leave these lisks
3 - MACRO MORE ARMY, roaches may be good as they live longer or lings to morph purely to banes
4. select hydras and target thors
5- a-move everything closer and send the remaining viper energy on the tanks
now this doesnt always work but ive been satisfied to see a few marauders and a couple of tanks left over where another round of lings cleans it up BUT
they come at you with a very similar sized push . . .and i cant stop that usually. Im really really trying to find a way to beat this at my skill level and im prepared to sit and practice with someone if they want to frind me, but which terran wants to give this strangle hold up!
http://sc2replaystats.com/replay/41600
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