EPTProtoss versus Zerg: The Guide - Page 22
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There are no plans for a guide to other match-ups at this time. This guide was an entirely organic effort from TL community members of similar interests. | ||
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DropTester
Australia608 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
On November 27 2012 13:58 NovemberstOrm wrote: You scout ling speed by being active on the map with a zealots+stalker, you can get tricky with it sometimes(hiding a probe and then scouting the main), delaying a build usually isn't worth it, if you suspect a baneling bust then you have to play ultra defensive, it takes some time for you to be able to read situations in the game such as this one. "if you suspect a baneling bust then you have to play ultra defensive" doesn't answer any questions unless you describe what you are looking for that will arouse suspicion, and how much you react to it. If zerg takes his gas while his queen is in production and your probe is scouting the 3rd, you will NOT see the gas with a probe. everything will look normal, and you have no reason to suspect anything. Is seeing 6-8 slow lings instead of 4 reason to suspect something? because that's all he needs to show you until its too late. How many cannons does that entail? | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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shadowy
Bulgaria305 Posts
Thank you, TL! | ||
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Unless you're Terran, then go away. I is sad  But in all seriousness, I'm definitely keeping this guide handy whenever I get bored and make the switch back to random. I've never really nailed down FFE, so this will definitely be useful. | ||
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Ghostcom
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Mura19
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 27 2012 14:17 Oboeman wrote: "if you suspect a baneling bust then you have to play ultra defensive" doesn't answer any questions unless you describe what you are looking for that will arouse suspicion, and how much you react to it. If zerg takes his gas while his queen is in production and your probe is scouting the 3rd, you will NOT see the gas with a probe. everything will look normal, and you have no reason to suspect anything. Is seeing 6-8 slow lings instead of 4 reason to suspect something? because that's all he needs to show you until its too late. How many cannons does that entail? You just have to appreciate that if you can't get a good scout off, cutting cannons is a risk. It's a risk which most of the time pays off (unless you play vs Zenio) but going up to three cannons if you are blind is what I would consider safe. Will it put you behind if they play standard? Absolutely. That's the toss up you have. | ||
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SSeoni
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thepuppyassassin
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On November 27 2012 14:49 Plexa wrote: You just have to appreciate that if you can't get a good scout off, cutting cannons is a risk. It's a risk which most of the time pays off (unless you play vs Zenio) but going up to three cannons if you are blind is what I would consider safe. Will it put you behind if they play standard? Absolutely. That's the toss up you have. I concur with Plexa's analysis of anti-baneling precautions in PvZ, and his pun as well. | ||
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[N3O]r3d33m3r
Germany674 Posts
Could a pro player check it for general misconecptions? Like skim through it and suggest improvements :O | ||
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EuroElf
Croatia19 Posts
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Sanco
Germany1 Post
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
Zerg players, we must unite against this mighty force. | ||
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Entirety
1423 Posts
My second reaction: Holy crap this guide... Literally the most in-depth guide I have seen in my life. This is amazing, I will have to put this to use and improve my Protoss prowess! | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
One criticism i would have is the lack of depth in the gate nexus section. It seems like the creators of this guide don't use gate nexus very often, so that part of the guide seems to lack a bit of experience and mostly referred to the FFE part when it came to the midgame and defending all ins. Hopefully someone with a bit more gate nexus experience can add to that section. | ||
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havox_
Germany442 Posts
not playing P and still love it - and it feels like the other races will have to unite in response :D | ||
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