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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 28 2012 09:15 GMT
#61
That was some incredible work, mindblowing. Also very nonsensical results, but very interesting for sure. Thanks a lot
Nimelrian
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany142 Posts
October 28 2012 09:15 GMT
#62
Great post, very insightful and based on facts.

Most of us have propably noticed this already (Metalopolis, Entombed), but it's always great to have your opinion strengthened by hard facts.

As a Zerg player, I would say that this has a BIG influence on ZvZ, when both go for 14/14 and one has his speed some seconds earlier than the other player.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
October 28 2012 09:18 GMT
#63
On October 28 2012 15:53 CursOr wrote:
I've tried to explain forever that some spawn positions are at a disadvantage because of this. There was an old map in particular, forget which one, that I refused to play people on because of this (was Terran at the time)... good to see someone has actually researched it.

You probably know a lot more about gas mining than the people at blizzard ^_^ (ie: Carrier Micro by Nony)


there are a lot of people on tl that know more about everything a good rts needs than the actual ex dow and c&c creators now working for blizzard
Total Annihilation Zero
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
October 28 2012 09:18 GMT
#64
faith in community - restored!
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 28 2012 09:19 GMT
#65
Very nice work.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
October 28 2012 09:19 GMT
#66
great work
The Ohana is the most balanced map in the map pool
@taefoxy
ESTeGo
Profile Joined October 2012
Estonia17 Posts
October 28 2012 09:20 GMT
#67
Cool. I always wondered why the AI would take gases so weird. It did the math.
Stream of Thought
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
October 28 2012 09:21 GMT
#68
Well researched. Most of this issues have long been evident to attentive players, but Blizzard's approach to the game has always been too lax for them to be fixed anytime soon. Map makers will need to adapt as much as they can.
Moochlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States456 Posts
October 28 2012 09:25 GMT
#69
Sick shit dude, I will be memorizing this! TY!
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 09:28:43
October 28 2012 09:28 GMT
#70
Give this man a medal.

Orek had the passion and now delivers a well-researched overview with all details one ever needs to know about vespene.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 28 2012 09:31 GMT
#71
Wow that alot of information! Good work :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Leimus
Profile Joined October 2011
72 Posts
October 28 2012 09:33 GMT
#72
As a zerg I should probably throw 4 drones to those far away locations just to make sure i get every drop possible. It's almost never about the minerals, but if I'll get extra infestor during the game thanks to this, I'll take it.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
October 28 2012 09:35 GMT
#73
Orek, you are the god of research!
:)
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 28 2012 09:41 GMT
#74
Ty for the hard work. This is very helpfull.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 28 2012 09:41 GMT
#75
Amazing work, I hope this gets all the attention it deserves, especially from the pros. I'm really glad to read such a piece for once instead of all the drama threads!
Kudos to you, sir.
Get off my lawn, young punks
JackRipper
Profile Joined August 2010
79 Posts
October 28 2012 09:48 GMT
#76
Well done! Makes it very easy to understand which gas to take for any position and is nicely formatted so that it's easy to sift through the information.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
October 28 2012 10:04 GMT
#77
Thank you!
Interesting research, lots of facts, well written, easy to apply due to the images... This post is an example for others to follow.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 10:12:26
October 28 2012 10:10 GMT
#78
This is very helpful, especially for entombed valley! Thanks a lot for the great research

edit: does anyone have a link to the faster mining mineral patches aswell for every map? Knowing these small aspects of the game well can help a lot in the long run
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hatespam
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania161 Posts
October 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#79
i love these kind of posts. good job sir
ask, and you shall have asked
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#80
I swear I saw something similar to this years ago, but thanks for the reminder
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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