• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:19
CEST 00:19
KST 07:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League27Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.162Rollback Netcode in Brood War1265.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 202624Weekly Cups Results (Sep 28-Oct 4)0
StarCraft 2
General
Server Blocker Terran AddOns placement SCII needs to put more weight on strategy and tact How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) $3,500 WardiTV Not-Summer Championship ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War GG Lan Fest Sofia, Bulgaria [this November] [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos [Recap] Hive ZvZ in MonstarZ vs Dreams [ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals 2v2v2v2 Tournament Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers Replay Review Process - What do you do?
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
The Link Between Gaming and …
TrAiDoS
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10517 users

[G] ~8% faster gas mining - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Strategy
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 16 17 18 Next All
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 28 2012 09:15 GMT
#61
That was some incredible work, mindblowing. Also very nonsensical results, but very interesting for sure. Thanks a lot
Nimelrian
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany142 Posts
October 28 2012 09:15 GMT
#62
Great post, very insightful and based on facts.

Most of us have propably noticed this already (Metalopolis, Entombed), but it's always great to have your opinion strengthened by hard facts.

As a Zerg player, I would say that this has a BIG influence on ZvZ, when both go for 14/14 and one has his speed some seconds earlier than the other player.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1982 Posts
October 28 2012 09:18 GMT
#63
On October 28 2012 15:53 CursOr wrote:
I've tried to explain forever that some spawn positions are at a disadvantage because of this. There was an old map in particular, forget which one, that I refused to play people on because of this (was Terran at the time)... good to see someone has actually researched it.

You probably know a lot more about gas mining than the people at blizzard ^_^ (ie: Carrier Micro by Nony)


there are a lot of people on tl that know more about everything a good rts needs than the actual ex dow and c&c creators now working for blizzard
Total Annihilation Zero
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
October 28 2012 09:18 GMT
#64
faith in community - restored!
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 28 2012 09:19 GMT
#65
Very nice work.
Taefox
Profile Joined March 2010
1533 Posts
October 28 2012 09:19 GMT
#66
great work
The Ohana is the most balanced map in the map pool
@taefoxy
ESTeGo
Profile Joined October 2012
Estonia17 Posts
October 28 2012 09:20 GMT
#67
Cool. I always wondered why the AI would take gases so weird. It did the math.
Stream of Thought
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
October 28 2012 09:21 GMT
#68
Well researched. Most of this issues have long been evident to attentive players, but Blizzard's approach to the game has always been too lax for them to be fixed anytime soon. Map makers will need to adapt as much as they can.
Moochlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States456 Posts
October 28 2012 09:25 GMT
#69
Sick shit dude, I will be memorizing this! TY!
blaaaaaarghhhhh
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 09:28:43
October 28 2012 09:28 GMT
#70
Give this man a medal.

Orek had the passion and now delivers a well-researched overview with all details one ever needs to know about vespene.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
October 28 2012 09:31 GMT
#71
Wow that alot of information! Good work :D
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Leimus
Profile Joined October 2011
72 Posts
October 28 2012 09:33 GMT
#72
As a zerg I should probably throw 4 drones to those far away locations just to make sure i get every drop possible. It's almost never about the minerals, but if I'll get extra infestor during the game thanks to this, I'll take it.
Raysalis
Profile Joined July 2010
Malaysia1034 Posts
October 28 2012 09:35 GMT
#73
Orek, you are the god of research!
:)
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 28 2012 09:41 GMT
#74
Ty for the hard work. This is very helpfull.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 28 2012 09:41 GMT
#75
Amazing work, I hope this gets all the attention it deserves, especially from the pros. I'm really glad to read such a piece for once instead of all the drama threads!
Kudos to you, sir.
Get off my lawn, young punks
JackRipper
Profile Joined August 2010
79 Posts
October 28 2012 09:48 GMT
#76
Well done! Makes it very easy to understand which gas to take for any position and is nicely formatted so that it's easy to sift through the information.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
October 28 2012 10:04 GMT
#77
Thank you!
Interesting research, lots of facts, well written, easy to apply due to the images... This post is an example for others to follow.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-28 10:12:26
October 28 2012 10:10 GMT
#78
This is very helpful, especially for entombed valley! Thanks a lot for the great research

edit: does anyone have a link to the faster mining mineral patches aswell for every map? Knowing these small aspects of the game well can help a lot in the long run
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/hunter692007/kruemelmonsteryn0.gif
hatespam
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania161 Posts
October 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#79
i love these kind of posts. good job sir
ask, and you shall have asked
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
October 28 2012 10:14 GMT
#80
I swear I saw something similar to this years ago, but thanks for the reminder
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 16 17 18 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
06:30
Best Games of SC
Clem vs SHIN
herO vs SHIN
Serral vs Solar
Clem vs SHIN
Reynor vs TBD
PiGStarcraft346
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL Open Qualifier
04:00
Pro & Gosu - Last Chance #1
ZZZero.O157
LiquipediaDiscussion
AI Arena Tournament
01:00
Swiss - Round 6
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft337
Nina 156
NeuroSwarm 116
ViBE84
SpeCial 83
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 12860
White-Ra 203
ZZZero.O 163
910 53
Dota 2
monkeys_forever121
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4058
Liquid`Hasu457
Other Games
summit1g10071
FrodaN1521
KnowMe261
ToD245
Khaldor203
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick904
angryscii22
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 36
• musti20045 32
• Adnapsc2 28
• RyuSc2 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix9
• Pr0nogo 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4729
Other Games
• imaqtpie1130
• Shiphtur518
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
11h 42m
OSC
14h 42m
IPSL
17h 42m
BSL Open Qualifier
20h 42m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 12h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
HCC Season 3
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.