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Coldblackice
United States49 Posts
Further, the "set" and "recall" shortcuts of these aren't the same, e.g.: Set Cam-8: [CTRL -] Cam-8: [CTRL P] I'm guessing it has something to do with those three cameras being "fluid", changing often through a game, so perhaps to assist in mentally separating these 3 cams from static base-cams. Any help? | ||
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JaKaTaKSc2
United States2787 Posts
On May 27 2015 10:37 Coldblackice wrote: Using RRM 2.0, why do cameras 6,7,8 have different/alternate keyboard shortcuts than the rest (the only ones in the CTRL column)? Further, the "set" and "recall" shortcuts of these aren't the same, e.g.: Set Cam-8: [CTRL -] Cam-8: [CTRL P] I'm guessing it has something to do with those three cameras being "fluid", changing often through a game, so perhaps to assist in mentally separating these 3 cams from static base-cams. Any help? That is for a special Camera Creep Spread sequence for Zerg. They are alternates so if you are not using the Creep Spread sequence then you can just ignore them and use the cameras normally. | ||
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anonymous4
27 Posts
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Anzki
Finland24 Posts
On May 23 2015 23:56 R05 wrote: Is there a different key that could be bound to tumor creep spread in ZRM? When doing the creep cam sequence it makes you press 2 different keys in a row with the same finger. I tried to bind that command to a mouse button but it seems that the repeat rate is not as fast as the keyboard because it always takes about a second for the key repeat to take effect. I've been thinking about remapping the function key next to ctrl to a normal key so that i can use that for spreading the tumor. Still not ideal because it makes me press 2 different keys with the same finger but at least there's a smaller distance gap between the keys. I would definetly go with the mouse button if it would be possible to adjust the repeat rate to be as fast as the keyboard. By the way is it legal in the tournament rules to remap keys on the keyboard? Its been asked before but i never saw the answer. I also tried to do a research and i haven't found anything. Thanks Tryed to search myself but didint found legit announcement from blizzard. But people seem to think that changing one key to other key (A--> B) is okay, but changing it to multiple keys is not (A--> ctrl+B) But who knows if tournament rules would differ. i think you gota ask blizzard forums again and hope some community guy answers | ||
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brook8128
Korea (South)66 Posts
And is there thecore for lotv? | ||
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Pandaroc
1 Post
Now the question: As i start building up my skills from scratch, i wanted to learn a proper hotkey setup from the beginning. The advantage i have is, that i yet haven't learned any hotkeys so my memory is open to any Setup. I've learned there a 3 Setups considered good: DarkGrid, FleetKeys and The Core (this). So my Problem is i can't decide which will be the best for me -_-. Any Points for this Setup over the other two? Need Help !! | ||
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R05
Canada47 Posts
The core is made so its as comfortable and fast as it can be. They made it so there is a minimal finger repetition (pressing same keys twice with same finger) and it has the rapid fire integrated. You also have easy access to all the cameras and control groups. All i know from the other layouts you mentionned is that they are on the left side of the keyboard and the only thing that is better from the core is that its easier to learn but not as efficient. If you decide to learn the core, you should read everything on the first page of this thread before using it because there are some infos you need to have read otherwise you will use it wrong. Those things include the tilt of the keyboard, the home keys, the recommended control group keys for unit types, the game start sequence, the key alternates sequences etc... You don't NEED the info above but, i assume that if you choose the core, its because you want to be as efficient as possible. Also one more thing that is nice about the core is that there is a different layout for Zerg, Terran, Protoss and Random (if you dont have a main race). | ||
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sil0r
Germany43 Posts
For "I" use whatever hotkey you want to use. Now i have to find out how to transform it back. :D Edit: The command for airmode is "LiberatorAAMode/Liberator=9" | ||
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Coldblackice
United States49 Posts
Curious if there's specific reasoning for this, as it's the only finger that has a key that has to cut back "against the grain", so to speak (cut back + offset other fingers in the process). | ||
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anonymous4
27 Posts
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velvex
Germany226 Posts
On May 30 2015 23:49 anonymous4 wrote: Hi , I'm not set on using the core but im trying to find alternative keys for camera hot keys , right now they are f3 , f4 etc.. But they are a bit far for my hands to reach , are there any alternatives so that they are within reach, anyone use different keys for camera ? I don't mind pressing 2-3 keys , for example .. Ctrl+shift + ..etc.. I use Alt+A, Alt+S, Alt+D, Alt+F to jump to my bases, and the same keys with Ctrl+Alt to set the locations. Works very well for me. I've also set Ctrl+Alt to "Center on Current Selection" and use Ctrl+Alt + left mouse button to add new bases to my hatchery control group. | ||
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ThatSlothGuy
1 Post
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velvex
Germany226 Posts
On May 31 2015 09:21 ThatSlothGuy wrote: I can't seem to get the core ZRM hotkeys to work on LOTV beta. Is it not compatible with LOTV, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks. It's compatible. If the setup doesn't show up ingame (I assume that's the problem), the file isn't in the correct directory, which is the same as for HotS, but with "Starcraft II Beta" instead of "Starcraft II". If you're not sure you've found the correct directory, simply make a new setup ingame with a certain name, and then search for a file of that name in Windows/Mac OS. | ||
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Slashiepie
107 Posts
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Jayleon
1 Post
I am right handed and planning to main Terran. I have chosen and downloaded the TRM 2.0 layout. I am looking for the best possible keys to set each control group to. From your spreadsheet (reference) these are the suggested keys for each control group. CC/Ebay P Rax/Fact/Port O Main Army ; Ghost L Harass 9 Marine Marauder (bio) / Melee (mech) 0 Widow Mine - Tank [ Viking / Harass = Drop . According to the visualizer and in-game. O, L, 9, 0 are not a possible control group buttons for TRM. Could someone please suggest the optimal CGs for a Terran player using TRM 2.0? | ||
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Slashiepie
107 Posts
P - Is for CC's and Upgrades O - Is for Rax/Factory/Starport Pick one or two comfortable Hotkeys for your army and take it from there. I just downloaded the newest 2.0 and it seems O is not a CG anymore, you are somehow looking at an older Spreadsheet. My Core does use O as a CG. | ||
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Anakaris
Singapore3 Posts
@R05, I think I'll give ZRM layout a shot. I'm not a frequent SC2 player. I used to use The Core in the past, and was pretty successful in getting used to the keys. After The Core 2.0 came out, I had some trouble getting used to the keys. I also has trouble looking for the spreadsheet for The Core 2.0. After which I used grid thinking that The Core 2.0 wouldn't be ready for LotV. Would you guys recommending using The Core, The Core 2.0, or the Grid, for getting prepared for LotV? | ||
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Coldblackice
United States49 Posts
On May 27 2015 19:50 JaKaTaKSc2 wrote: That is for a special Camera Creep Spread sequence for Zerg. They are alternates so if you are not using the Creep Spread sequence then you can just ignore them and use the cameras normally. Can Jak/anyone link to where this is taught/explained? I figure I might as well use the Zerg technique since I'm playing random, and then apply those keys to my other races. I also don't like using ALT/center for those three cam locations, because they center on whatever is selected. So I thought I should learn the Zerg technique for these at the same time. PS -- Perhaps we could add a section to the first post which links to various posts within the thread explaining/answering key points? It could be a "rolling" section, that basically stars/highlights whatever recent posts are most pertinent to current development, like a "TheCore 2.0beta" section, and then an index of post links. Just an idea. I see a lot of great posts by Jak and others, but they quickly get lost in the trail once they reach a few pages back. | ||
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R05
Canada47 Posts
I would go with the core 2.0 for LotV because its the latest version of the core and the best. I think they are already working on integrating the new skills into the core 2.0 layout. Also ive asked before if the layout would be changed because of the new skills and they said that the new skills will be on keys that arent currently used. So if you go with the core 2.0, you will have the latest best layout and there wont be much waiting time for them to update it for LotV and also it wont be like learning a new layout when going on LotV. | ||
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R05
Canada47 Posts
For the creep cam sequence, go on the "Core Master Spreadsheet" under ressource on page one of the thread. Its on "Z.Overview" in the spreadsheet. Basically the sequence: - Hold control through the whole thing - recall the first cam (H) - click one tumor (with control will select all in range) - Spread creep - Make new cam (-) - go to next cam (J) - etc... Im using this with ZRM and its working great. A great way to learn the sequence is to play the arcade map "Creep or die". | ||
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