EPT[G] PvP: An Overview/Observing PvP - Page 3
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cskalias.pbe
United States293 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
 ) to probably my worst. Everything has just changed. This guide clarifies a lot of things for me. I've won all of the PvPs I've played since reading this . | ||
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
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Moka
Canada942 Posts
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Elefes
Russian Federation164 Posts
On April 17 2012 10:27 cskalias.pbe wrote: All of your posts are gold. I wish you played more T! ha 'gold' may sound insulting to such a skilled player  :D | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
It is great to have dedicated protoss players always create awesome and enlightening guides. I am proud of my protoss brethren. | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
Every mirror match is considerably more tricky and more difficult. On April 17 2012 19:21 Laserist wrote: You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. There is always something to learn in PvP. It is great to have dedicated protoss players always create awesome and enlightening guides. I am proud of my protoss brethren. There is always something to learn in TvT TvZ TvP ZvT ZvZ ZvP PvT PvZ PvP There is always something to learn in all 9 match ups, not just PvP. | ||
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saer
40 Posts
On April 14 2012 20:53 NrGmonk wrote: With the money saved from not probe scouting, you can afford an extra zealot and use it to do a 2 zealot/2 stalker poke as an alternative to scouting. This is commonly done by the StartaleQ Protosses (Parting, Squirtle, Naniwa, Sase). Interested in how this push works, do you start the first zealot before the core in order to get a good timing on the stalker after 2 zealots? also is everything else just as normal with a 1gate tech after this poke? I haven't had much chance to watch these players' pvp. | ||
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Jtom
Ireland1044 Posts
Amazing guide on the best match-up in SC2 :D | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On April 18 2012 00:12 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Stop making PvP like it is extremely difficult. Every mirror match is considerably more tricky and more difficult. There is always something to learn in TvT TvZ TvP ZvT ZvZ ZvP PvT PvZ PvP There is always something to learn in all 9 match ups, not just PvP. Ofc there is always something to learn for each matchup. There is almost a consensus on the least developed and discovered MU is PvP. So there is always something to learn more in PvP than others imho. | ||
monk
United States8477 Posts
On April 18 2012 00:12 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Stop making PvP like it is extremely difficult. Every mirror match is considerably more tricky and more difficult. There is always something to learn in TvT TvZ TvP ZvT ZvZ ZvP PvT PvZ PvP There is always something to learn in all 9 match ups, not just PvP. lol what's the point of this post? | ||
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ObliviousNA
United States535 Posts
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WolfBro
United States59 Posts
Considering that I play Protoss, I have learned a lot from this. Protoss has always been my most hated matchup, but the understanding of it as increased so much from this guide that maybe this will change in the future. Also, as a new caster, thank you for the information in that regard Thank you. | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
The point is to tell people to stop making PvP look like it is extremely difficult. Because every mirror match is considerably more tricky and more difficult, and that there is always something to learn in TvT TvZ TvP ZvT ZvZ ZvP PvT PvZ PvP Not just PvP. | ||
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monk
United States8477 Posts
On April 18 2012 10:13 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: The point is to tell people to stop making PvP look like it is extremely difficult. Because every mirror match is considerably more tricky and more difficult, and that there is always something to learn in TvT TvZ TvP ZvT ZvZ ZvP PvT PvZ PvP Not just PvP. Who's doing that? Why are mirror matchups more tricky and difficult? Why are you listing every matchup in your posts? | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
On April 18 2012 10:22 NrGmonk wrote: Who's doing that? Why are mirror matchups more tricky and difficult? Why are you listing every matchup in your posts? Because there is a guy who said "There is always something to learn in PvP." And I am saying there is always something to learn in all 9 matchups, not just PvP. I don't know why mirror matchups are more tricky and difficult, but many people would agree things like TvT, ZvZ, PvP are all tricky. | ||
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monk
United States8477 Posts
On April 18 2012 18:16 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Because there is a guy who said "There is always something to learn in PvP." And I am saying there is always something to learn in all 9 matchups, not just PvP. I don't know why mirror matchups are more tricky and difficult, but many people would agree things like TvT, ZvZ, PvP are all tricky. He never said or implied that there's less to learn from any other MUs. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
The first attack involved his colossi killing everything on the ground, but his opponents had too many void rays and he lost everything while killing an expo. Both players had a mothership, but Sage had the good feedback (confirming what you said about moships). Rematch involved same thing: Both players had colossi on 2base, then phoenix and a third base, then High Templar, Colossi, and chargelots all over. Again his opponent went void rays but lost with diverse expo pressure. Both games showed a diverse departure for run-of-the-mill PvPs. With archon buffers and colossi, both massive units took tremendous damage from void rays and Sage lost major engagements. The opponent was some smurf with all pipes (||||||||||||||), but top-8 KR masters. Food for thought. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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etherealfall
Australia476 Posts
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