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monk
United States8477 Posts
On April 15 2012 06:39 BronzeKnee wrote: Me too. I love PvP and understand the matchup well. But my understanding of PvZ and PvT are more limited. Probably won't happen as PvT and PvZ are both much more complex than PvP and it would take way longer. There were some talks about a PvZ guide by me, cecil, and alej, but that project is on hold for now. | ||
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How2getMaster
Germany124 Posts
Greetings. | ||
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blooblooblahblah
Australia4163 Posts
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On April 14 2012 20:53 NrGmonk wrote: : Players who don’t scout are either confident they can hold off proxies and . With the money saved from not probe scouting, you can afford an extra zealot and use it to do a 2 zealot/2 stalker poke as an alternative to scouting. There seems to be something missing here. | ||
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bertu
Brazil871 Posts
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xOtit
United States253 Posts
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monk
United States8477 Posts
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CecilSunkure
United States2829 Posts
On April 15 2012 09:28 NrGmonk wrote: Can someone link this on reddit? I don't have an account. Done: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/sa7ht/amazing_guide_for_understanding_pvp_from_nrgmonk/?already_submitted=true | ||
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inSighTsc2
United States110 Posts
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monk
United States8477 Posts
On April 15 2012 10:57 CecilSunkure wrote: Done: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/sa7ht/amazing_guide_for_understanding_pvp_from_nrgmonk/?already_submitted=true Cool, thanks dear. | ||
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Mikelius
Germany517 Posts
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Janders
Mexico222 Posts
On April 14 2012 21:40 MateShade wrote: Great guide, I'm getting a bit tired of trying to explain to people how PvP isn't a coinflip matchup in the slightest PvP is a kind of a coinflip matchup depending on the game because a player must choose his tech path blindly and there are a lot of build order losses/disadvantages. Examples: Like one player goes blink the other goes phoenix. gg for the phoenix guy. Player opens phoenix and the other player opens DT's - gg for the phoenix guy. Player opens 3 gate blink obs and the other guy opens 4 gate blink - gg for the robo guy. | ||
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monk
United States8477 Posts
On April 15 2012 16:48 Janders wrote: PvP is a kind of a coinflip matchup depending on the game because a player must choose his tech path blindly and there are a lot of build order losses/disadvantages. Examples: Like one player goes blink the other goes phoenix. gg for the phoenix guy. Player opens phoenix and the other player opens DT's - gg for the phoenix guy. Player opens 3 gate blink obs and the other guy opens 4 gate blink - gg for the robo guy. Or not | ||
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Amyris
United Kingdom77 Posts
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
very nice write-up monk  also i really like that you stressed that you shouldn't go speed immortal drop on a whim. can't tell you how many times i've run into that going 1g sg phoenix and got flamed for having luck boxed into a free win :D | ||
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piiiT
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On April 16 2012 04:40 piiiT wrote: seriously why are you cecil and alej playing protoss? all the good guides are for toss jesus christ ! :p good writup i could prob drop a few zvp guides but my brothers would shun me :D edit: XD XD XD <3 <3 <3 | ||
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Janders
Mexico222 Posts
or not what? | ||
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Geiko
France2025 Posts
Your whole post is wrong. If you replace "gg" by "disadvantage" in your post, then maybe there is room for discussion. Even then, doesn't really mean anything. There are greedy phoenix builds which die to DTs and safe phoenix builds which are good against blink and dts. Same for blink/obs. To be frank I expect clarification from your post rather then monk's "or not". | ||
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