[D] Raven Auto-Turret in TvP - Page 2

On December 19 2011 04:49 MrRicewife wrote:
But.... where do you get the gas???

On December 19 2011 05:11 sSoda wrote:
I'm sorry to say that ravens, although they are cool, aren't very useful at high level play. They cost too much gas and are instantly countered by feedback. Also, when I'm on three base, I never have a problem spending gas because ghosts, medivacs, and uprgades are all very gas heavy. People always seem to think that terrans don't use ravens enough, but there is a reason almost all high level terran players don't make them.

On December 19 2011 05:32 Zergrusher wrote:




science vessels would like to talk to you about what you just said( and yes it took a while before people used them)

and scan is ez but 1 raven could save you reasons to scan, and can do so much more

On December 19 2011 05:43 radiantshadow92 wrote:


scanning is used for more than just denying cloacked units. vision is important as well. and ravens dont give u that

On December 19 2011 05:16 Plansix wrote:
And this exploits the zealots greatest weakness, their love to punch buildings over targets with less hp. :-P

I have been wondering if I would see more Ravens in the game. It would seem like a really effective was to disrupt zealots, since they A-move and would go after the turret. Plus with 150 hp, 1 armor, turrets don't die fast and their damage is nothing to be ignored. Anything that messes with zealots pathing is a nightmare for the protoss player, since they are so much larger than zerglings and can block other units like the archon. Plus they are beyond slow once the charge is popped.

Feedback would be effective if the turrets were used offensively. But with the HTs slow movement speed and the long duration on the turrets(3 minutes game time), they could be used defensively. They cost a mint, but carefully used, they could effective.

I don't know if it would work in high level play, but as a protoss player, I don't like ravens or auto turrets.

On December 19 2011 05:32 Zergrusher wrote:
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science vessels would like to talk to you about what you just said( and yes it took a while before people used them)

and scan is ez but 1 raven could save you reasons to scan, and can do so much more

On December 19 2011 06:22 sSoda wrote:


You're forgetting that in bw there was no need to make any other air unit besides the science vessel to make. In sc2, constant medivac/viking production is really important and ravens aren't a good enough unit to swap on a techlab and use 200 gas. People are also saying that terrans tend to float gas but I never have problems spending gas on three bases.

On December 19 2011 06:38 Zergrusher wrote:
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you don't have to mass the ravens. just get like 2-3

On December 19 2011 06:47 sSoda wrote:




You actually think you can just pump out 2-3 ravens? how can you keep up production of vikings if they go heavy colossi and if you don't get at least 3 medivacs for your army, you're going to lose. The only way you could possibly get out 2-3 ravens would be to get a second starport entirely. Ravens just aren't a good enough of a unit, too easily countered by feedback.

soo...... why not just 1-2, or even use banshees more? since there light units stalkers don't do bonus damage to banshees, and they can cloack......... ya know honestly why don't terrans use hellions all game round VS zerg? since mutaling usually uses alot of lings. why not get some BF hellions........... with a reactored factory. to roast those lings? its like....... " why composition? when i can eather go 1-2 unit comps?" its interesting how strong sky terran, with tanks is, also its not about going straight "bio" or "sky" or "mech".