EPT[G] FFE on Arid Plateau and Entombed Valley - Page 2
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Origine
France167 Posts
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Tekakan
Sweden78 Posts
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Wookyman
Denmark4 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/a9Fgw.jpg) The cannon completely defends both nexus and forge from lings. Like Tekakan says you can still place a cannon on the ledge to defend you from roaches. You almost can't see it but there's a pylon in the top of the picture obstructing ling runby's avoiding the cannon completely whilst making good room for a second cannon in that area. These placements are not well thought through I only tried twice. | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
On December 15 2011 17:35 CygNus X-1 wrote: You must be gold league. close thread. Wow you are SOOOO constructive. Go back to reddit please. | ||
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Arcanefrost
Belgium1257 Posts
On December 15 2011 18:19 Wookyman wrote: Is it just me or is this one more viable? The cannon completely defends both nexus and forge from lings. Like Tekakan says you can still place a cannon on the ledge to defend you from roaches. You almost can't see it but there's a pylon in the top of the picture obstructing ling runby's avoiding the cannon completely whilst making good room for a second cannon in that area. These placements are not well thought through I only tried twice. That one's better imo. But I'm not quite sure how you want to cannon to defend the other side on arid near the second natural gas, gogo tl math boys! | ||
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chestnutcc
India429 Posts
The wall in on entombed valley looks similar to that used in antiga shipyard. On December 15 2011 18:19 Wookyman wrote: Is it just me or is this one more viable? The cannon completely defends both nexus and forge from lings. Like Tekakan says you can still place a cannon on the ledge to defend you from roaches. You almost can't see it but there's a pylon in the top of the picture obstructing ling runby's avoiding the cannon completely whilst making good room for a second cannon in that area. These placements are not well thought through I only tried twice. This is a more economical wall in but looks v susceptible to early run bys. The image below depicts a a complete block. The cannon in the picture above cannot hit roaches targeting the wall, the one below misses out only on the forge. The wall seems akin to that on metal and xel naga caverns, you will need at least two cannons to be perfectly safe, on the other hand, it is v ff friendly. ![[image loading]](http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/402/aridplateausimcity.jpg/) Sim City image | ||
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wyYJE.jpg) You can either put the pylon in the wall and the canon behind it or you can use the pylon or canon to leave a 1x1 space in the wall (pylon can power everything either behind (as in 1 hex to the left in my picture) or in front of the canon. | ||
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WolfBro
United States59 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
On December 15 2011 19:31 chestnutcc wrote: Gas mining wont be affected by the cannon placement in the OP. Theres a thread about this somewhere, basically, the probes wrap around the cannon and the difference is infinitesimal. The wall in on entombed valley looks similar to that used in antiga shipyard. This is a more economical wall in but looks v susceptible to early run bys. The image below depicts a a complete block. The cannon in the picture above cannot hit roaches targeting the wall, the one below misses out only on the forge. The wall seems akin to that on metal and xel naga caverns, you will need at least two cannons to be perfectly safe, on the other hand, it is v ff friendly. Sim City image does cannon and pylon form a 2nd wall? | ||
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Wookyman
Denmark4 Posts
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althaz
Australia1001 Posts
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chestnutcc
India429 Posts
On December 15 2011 22:28 Hopelessnoob wrote: does cannon and pylon form a 2nd wall? The traditional zealot block is in between the pylon and the cannon. If necessary a probe can block the space between the mineral patch and the geyser. Lings blocked here are in range of the cannon. They can still chew at the far pylon, but a second cannon can hug the nexus within range of the first and cover it. The map is ff friendly and the choke to the side of the expo can be covered with a single ff I think. The frontal wall is ideally covered by a cannon on the high ground. Should be okay against baneling busts. | ||
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willyallthewei
United States265 Posts
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RynoKenny
United States6 Posts
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Balgrog
United States1221 Posts
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Louis8k8
Canada285 Posts
On December 15 2011 18:19 Wookyman wrote: Is it just me or is this one more viable? The cannon completely defends both nexus and forge from lings. Like Tekakan says you can still place a cannon on the ledge to defend you from roaches. You almost can't see it but there's a pylon in the top of the picture obstructing ling runby's avoiding the cannon completely whilst making good room for a second cannon in that area. These placements are not well thought through I only tried twice. Imo, those building placements are as good as it gets. The mineral line is still exposed to banelings from the right opening and also roaches. But that's issues with FFE on any map and can be compensated with additional cannons and pylons. Thanks for the screenshot. If I were to play this map (I'm going to veto so that won't happen anyways). I'd put 2 cannons as a standard. The first one between Nex and mineral line and second tight against the Cyber and Gateway. And the timing of the second one depends on gas timing of the Zerg. | ||
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clownzim
Brazil267 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 16 2011 03:33 Louis8k8 wrote: Imo, those building placements are as good as it gets. The mineral line is still exposed to banelings from the right opening and also roaches. But that's issues with FFE on any map and can be compensated with additional cannons and pylons. Thanks for the screenshot. If I were to play this map (I'm going to veto so that won't happen anyways). I'd put 2 cannons as a standard. The first one between Nex and mineral line and second tight against the Cyber and Gateway. And the timing of the second one depends on gas timing of the Zerg. There are going to be a lot of run bys with the second enterance. The placement of the cyber core will be clutch to hold the lings in cannon range. If I attempt this, I will most likely do some "cannon harrass" to keep the zerg from being agressive to early. I do not want those lings banging against my front door while I am trying to get up my second pylon and cyber core. | ||
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MiKTeX
United States234 Posts
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