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On March 11 2013 09:48 monkh wrote:
Does anyone have enough experience in HOTS yet to say how well hell bats mixed in with a bio composition in any match do in the late game? (Considering they wont have the upgrades, does it matter?)
They are really good with Marine Tank. you can't really clump them though, banelings murder them clumped.
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On March 11 2013 09:48 monkh wrote:
Does anyone have enough experience in HOTS yet to say how well hell bats mixed in with a bio composition in any match do in the late game? (Considering they wont have the upgrades, does it matter?)
Feels okay against Zerg but in TvT (if you play bio) and TvP they just feel to clumsly and slow you down by a lot.
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On March 11 2013 09:26 Swordland wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2013 06:53 KawaiiRice wrote:On March 10 2013 23:22 Swordland wrote:
Regarding proxy marauders, is it beneficial to do gas first? So I go 10 supply, then 12 gas and 13 rax? Shouldnt proxy marauder be rax first because you want to have a mara as soon as possible and mara is not gas intensive?
Also, is it ok to have 2x proxy barracks? Or 1 constantly pumping marauders is enough?
So, BO would be
10 SD
12 gas
13 proxy rax
@100%rax, Tech Lab and shells
@100%rax, start marauders, and OC
16 SD
@100% shells, attack
This sounds good? What about having 2 rax, will it delay a lot or will it be good? Gas first proxy marauder is really bad. 2 rax might be slightly viable tvp low level but awful tvt. Thank you KawaiiRice! So....1 rax is ideal, and rax first, not gas first. Other than that, is my BO ok?
Yeah but you should be pressuring asap and trying to get a bunker down somewhere useful. In TvP try to get a bunker shooting their gateway or something critical. In TvT it's kind of weird, bunkers in their base are hard to get up but a bunker to deny them from getting down the main ramp is the most useful if they were trying to 1rax FE.
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On March 10 2013 17:10 HanSomPa wrote:
Hi, can I please have a few games that show a +2+2+1 Timing Push TvZ out of Hellion/Banshee fast 3rd CC. Also, replays where the Zerg did aggression or allin-Ed a Hellion Banshee fast 3CC Build and Terran still took the game.
check out the OP of this thread for that, this question has been asked a lot
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I'm sure this has been asked before but I've not been able to find the answer.
When going mech in TvZ, what is the standard timing to collect your third and fourth gases at the nat?
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On March 11 2013 17:28 Cortza wrote:
I'm sure this has been asked before but I've not been able to find the answer.
When going mech in TvZ, what is the standard timing to collect your third and fourth gases at the nat?
8 minute mark or (very) shortly before
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The same time you have enough money to start your 2nd and 3rd factories. This time will vary depending on how many hellions and banshees you make.
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How do u deal with ultras late game when ur going mech ? + should u have tanks unsieged against them ?
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On March 09 2013 03:01 ognennyy wrote:
In the replays I notice some of the medivacs are healing on the front line of the attack, but some are just kinda sitting around. I'm not positive why this is happening, but I'm guessing it has something to do with having all my marines, marauders, and medivacs on one hotkey and hitting 1-a (to be fair to myself I do make an attempt to get my force into a good position before hitting 1-a so they can get good surface area). Strangely, the medivacs that aren't healing are fairly close to the bio forces taking damage.
What you describe is strange because even if you 1a everything with Medivacs included in the group, they should automatically heal bio troops close to them. Are you sure you did not somehow turn off the Healing autocast for some of them?
On March 10 2013 17:10 HanSomPa wrote:
Hi, can I please have a few games that show a +2+2+1 Timing Push TvZ out of Hellion/Banshee fast 3rd CC. Also, replays where the Zerg did aggression or allin-Ed a Hellion Banshee fast 3CC Build and Terran still took the game.
2/2 pushes/timings
- MMA vs Lowely, Whirlwind, Ritmix RSL IV;
- YoDa vs HyuN, Cloud Kingdom, Code S RO32;
- Taeja vs Soulkey, Whirlwind, Code S RO8;
- Baby/TY vs Action, Akilon Flats, SPL;
- Jjakji vs Monster, Entombed Valley, FXOpen Invitational #6 RO8;
- Lucifron vs Scarlett, Daybreak, IPL Dice.
2-bases agression
- MMA vs Lowely, Neo Planet S, Ritmix RSL IV (Mutas/banes);
- aLive vs Nestea, Cloud Kingdom, Code A RO32 (1/1 Speedroaches timing);
- Happy vs HyuN, Cloud Kingdom, Ritmix RSL IV (same);
- Lucifron vs sLivko, Akilon Flats, Ritmix RSL IV (Speedroaches Nydus).
Roaches/Banelings busts
- Bogus vs Symbol, Daybreak, Code S RO8;
- SuperNova vs Son, Cloud Kingdom, eSF IPL6 Seed Qualifier;
- MaSa vs Slavik, Antiga, IPTL FXO EU vs ROOT;
- Flash vs Sheth, Daybreak, MvP Invitational (the Ohana game too).
Other tier1 agression
- Lucifron vs Snute, Antiga, Vasacast Invitational (Roach pressure);
- Mvp vs Targa, Cloud Kingdom, IEM Gamescom (Roaches/Speedlings).
On March 10 2013 23:50 Ryndika wrote:
How you defend 6m banebust out of 15hat? It has atleast 7banelings and 12~ zerglings with huge reinforcements making.
Dream vs Golden, Daybreak, IEM VII Championship.
On March 11 2013 05:59 Batcha wrote:
1. Thoughts on hellion/marauder 1 base allins in TvT?
What i've done is just classic 12 rax/13 gas reactor hellion opening and i add 2 raxes while the factory and reactor are building -> make 2 techlabs -> attack with 4-6 hellions, 2-4 marauders, 2-4 marines while reinforcing.
Has something similar been done at pro level?
Starting from a gas first Reactor Hellion + proxy Starport to drop 4 Hellions there is one recent instance of a SCVs/Hellions/Marauders all-in: GuMiho vs ByuN, Akilon Flats, Code A RO24. The Barracks was used to build the Reactor then moved forward (beyond the natural) to make Marauders.
On March 11 2013 05:59 Batcha wrote:
2. I'm looking for examples of openers for 3 base marine tank allins in TvZ that neglect creep suppression early on (skip banshee, low number or no hellions) for more safety but dont delay third CC/double ebay too much and start tank production early so i have more for the 2/2 push.
Read here (answers to Leagis and IIIH).
On March 11 2013 17:28 Cortza wrote:
I'm sure this has been asked before but I've not been able to find the answer.
When going mech in TvZ, what is the standard timing to collect your third and fourth gases at the nat?
After you start your third (assuming Hellions/Banshees with a ~7'30 third).
On March 12 2013 00:58 darkphantom wrote:
How do u deal with ultras late game when ur going mech ? + should u have tanks unsieged against them ?
Max on 3/3 Tanks/Thors (pure Tanks can work too if you have a critical mass of them i. e. 25-30+) and keep them in a tight clump (if you still have Vikings, land them in front: Cure vs Soulkey, Neo Planet S, SPL). If you added extra Starports, you can use them to produce Banshees and harass Infestors/Queens or get free shots on Ultralisks: LucifroN vs Vortix, Ohana, Vasacast Invitational. Tanks unsieged if there are only Ultralisks (Mvp vs Miniraser, Ohana, IronSquid II), some of them sieged if you also have to deal with Zerglings/Infestors. Do not engage in open areas, Ultralisks flanks are extremely brutal.
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can anyone write down the widow mine opener for me ? i only trust TL <3
also is it save against any race ? I feel like it gives you realy nice defens against anything early on
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Thank you for the references Dwf, couldnt find the replays/VODs of some games though, like the Yoda vs Hyun game. I find it disturbing that so many Terrans lose though  Can't be helped I guess, it's hard to kill Zerg because of that huge creep buffer provided Zergs play properly. Otherwise I can outright kill most Master/High Diamond Zergs if their creep spread is shat at 15:00
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Strangely, the medivacs that aren't healing are fairly close to the bio forces taking damage.
Are they out of energy? That would explain it.
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I haven't played SC2 for months and with HOTS I am maybe thinking of playing some multiplayer with Terran race. Is Mech viable in HOTS? I want to mech in all three matchups.
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EDIT:Bah screw it, its only been 24hours since I played HoTS wtf do i Know
On March 12 2013 23:58 Bleak wrote:
I haven't played SC2 for months and with HOTS I am maybe thinking of playing some multiplayer with Terran race. Is Mech viable in HOTS? I want to mech in all three matchups.
Mech has always been viable. Its just fricken hard.
On March 12 2013 23:01 mika0023 wrote:
can anyone write down the widow mine opener for me ? i only trust TL <3
also is it save against any race ? I feel like it gives you realy nice defens against anything early on
Against protoss early rushes (MS core 4g blink stalker), counter drops (TvT), not as useful against zerg due to cheap zergling suicides, and roach being generally too tanky for 1-2 to have much affect early on, however if opponent is unaware a widowmine can sometimes work as strong as a baneling on steroids against masslings. Anyways, mines are generally ridiculously strong when used aggressively against all three races with the dropship combo - forcing scans + guarantee kill, sniping expensive protoss units, or the risk zerg has to take just to take down widow mines - waste many apm being especially careful with a very vulnerable overseer and whatever units you need to kill the mine with.
Its just such a flow upsetter for the opponent
Regarding BO - too early to ask, only been 24 hours since release from the first region, plus too general of a question - if you are just opening widowmine expand 1 gas is enough. You can even fit reapers in with one gas only. Very, very cheap units. Build time is slightly longer than expected however.
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Any good replays for terrans? Where can I find them?
Looking for Bio/window mine TvZ
and maybe some mech games vs P or Z
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I'm just starting to play terran after switching from protoss in WoL (gold). I'm a little confused as to when/ where to make add-ons, say for a basic marine/tank/medivac composition. Off of a 1 Rax FE, I usually build a tech lab on my first rax for stim, reactor on second rax, and reactor on factory while starport is building (to switch to starport after completion). Is this right?
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1) In TvZ how do you hold of those early roach pushes with the std reactor hellion into banshee build? I mean, I can somehow hold it off with a bunker, first rauder and first banshee but he denies mining for very long, my hellions are quite useless and get killed anyway and since I keep building marauders, holding his following mutas is quite tough.
But I don't see any other way instead of overreacting to his gas. I can't scout whether or not he goes for speed, roaches and/or banelings and I don't even have enough units for a 2nd bunker unless I completely switch my build.
2) Any replay or VOD of someone holding off the 3gate/immo allin? To me this appears unholdable, especially on daybreak or ohana...
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On March 12 2013 23:01 mika0023 wrote:
can anyone write down the widow mine opener for me ? i only trust TL <3
also is it save against any race ? I feel like it gives you realy nice defens against anything early on
Check out Day[9]s daily he did on Polts HotS opener vs Z, thats pretty widow mine centric and looks really solid.
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With a proxy reaper opening against Z or P what are my objectives
how do I make that 1 proxy rax worth it I mean.
My micro is alright but my multitask can slip if it gets kind of intense. Should I just not even bother with it if I'm not great at multitasking?
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