EPTQuestion: How many losses do you usually go before you need to walk away?
[G] Positive Mindset: The Key to SC2 - Page 13
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-VoidRay-
57 Posts
Question: How many losses do you usually go before you need to walk away? | ||
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TangSC
Canada1866 Posts
On January 08 2012 00:44 VoidRayRH wrote: This topic is all to relevant to me. It always seems to happen that i'll be doing great and all of a sudden i'll go on a 3 game losing streak. That in and of its self isn't bad but then I say, "I just wanna win one before I get off" which turns into a 4, 5 or even higher game losing streak. Why? Because i'm not playing "My game" and i'm not taking a break. Walking away can be a powerful tool and I really need to start learning that. If you get frustrated just walk a way, eat something or do another activity and come back. As far as the "my game part" whenever i'm on a losing streak I realize that every game I am losing is because i'm not playing how I usually do. When I realize that I always say "Ok this game is standard" but yet, it never is. When I lose my thirst to win consumes my logical thinking which doesn't allow to make any rational decisions. I struggle with loss streaks a lot and i'm trying hard to deal with them but the other thing is that the ladder was designed to win 50/50 so if you lose 5, eventually it will most likely even out so just be patient. Lastly, I totally agree with the eating right and being well nourished part. SC2 takes a lot of mental energy! I played a game yesterday at about 5 PM where I hadn't eaten breakfast or Lunch (Don't ask why haha) and decided to sit down and play sc2. My first game I played like a bronze and decided that I literally just could not play without getting some food in my body, it effected me that much. So all in all this topic is super important. Question: How many losses do you usually go before you need to walk away? I think what you experience is almost similar to the psychology behind a gambling addict (I don't mean that to offend you lol bare with me). You start to lose and you think "I need to get my money back" It's like in poker when you're playing well for an hour, and then you lose a HUGE hand (or get bluffed) and you go on tilt. You start thinking about that hand and how you should have played it, and your overall focus deteriorates. They start to bluff too much and they don't stick to their planned strategy. The same things happen in StarCraft when you're losing, people start to blindly all-in and they deviate from the gameplan that usually leads to succeses. People place a lot of importance on points/ladder rank/win-loss ratio, so there's a certain level of stress when you start losing. You'll start thinking about the game you lost or got cheesed while playing new games, and that's basically like a poker player being on "tilt" - your timings/execution will start so slip. That's why you need to GG after every game and review (with an open mind) the game and carefully look over your mistakes. If you find yourself rage-quitting games, being bad-manner, or even just have those familiar "Ugh this guy sucks, what a cheeser" or "I suck, what's wrong with me" thoughts, it's time to take a break. It doesn't have to be a long break just do something that'll renew your confidence/focus. Coffee and a light workout do wonders for me, some players save replays where they perform really well so watch that and remember how good you're capable of playing. When you sit back in front of the screen, you should be focused on your strategy and your minset: the only thing you should think about yourself is "I'm a great sc2 player and I'm going to win these games, nothing is going to stand in my way." | ||
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scMellOw
Belgium29 Posts
For me it's more like with "shut up & eat" but then with sc it's "shut up & play". | ||
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TangSC
Canada1866 Posts
On January 09 2012 23:53 scMellOw wrote: Being two-faced isn't my thing so I won't say gl hf or say gg when I don't feel like doing so. Doesn't mean I'm not having a positive mindset when going into the game though. For me it's more like with "shut up & eat" but then with sc it's "shut up & play". Fair enough, I understand what you mean, but I don't see saying "gl hf or gg" as being two-faced. I see it as being sportsmanlike, like after a baseball game even if you lose you're going to line up and shake hands with the other team. You may hate that other team and think they're jerks that paid the umpire, but you still shake. | ||
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soapyy.
United States103 Posts
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MooLen
Germany501 Posts
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Luftwaffle
Canada29 Posts
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FederigoEU
Germany50 Posts
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TangSC
Canada1866 Posts
On January 11 2012 08:31 FederigoEU wrote: good read i try to keep that in mind , because i am like the gambling addicts lol , cant stop when i am on a loosing streak i want those games back >_< I used to be guilty of the same offense, I'd go on a 5 game losing streak and start rage quitting games and getting frustrated either at opponents or at myself. I didn't realize how big a difference momentum/mindset are when you're laddering. Just try to not think about the win/loss, and take breaks when you're really frustrated. | ||
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MercilessMonkey
Canada150 Posts
Plus it'd be great if everyone was more mannered on the ladder  | ||
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408xParadox
United States140 Posts
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Jisall
United States2054 Posts
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Penecks
United States600 Posts
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n3ac3y
United States108 Posts
You should be considering every time you make a friend who is better than you and plays better a win in the direction of being a good player. Scrimming people of higher skill calibers within the correct arena will always be a better benefit then the ladder system. Mass laddering will improve your play absolutely, but nothing will ever beat playing against those top players in a "tournament type of environment" (Bo3's-Bo7's) on multiple maps. Instead of fighting for the ladder points, play ladder as strictly practice when you cannot find those top tier players to practice against or you can't find a tourney. If you are high masters and take a tournament no one will question you even the GMs. Being a GM does however mean these players get that easy access to the higher skilled players but all that means is that you need to up your networking skills a little bit. View GM, as what it is: A high masters player had the time/dedication to grind within a good time period and make that rank. Probability is a factor there, and I'm sure the GM's DID earn their spot don't get me wrong, but in all actuality there are plenty of GM's that will never turn a profit on this game because they might think "Well I made GM but I'm still not a pro. I've got no real motivation to improve here." My advice to that GM would still be the same, just keep networking and trying to find better more capable players. TL;DR: Bnet is a tool, but not the only tool. Proper networking and respect of better players lands you (High Masters, GM) friends that you can train with to improve your game, regardless of your rank. Side Note: I made high masters while full-time active army, I'm deployed now if Afghanistan now. STAY MOTIVATED!!!! I would have loved to try taking on the tournament scene. I envy all of your opportunities to stay involved with this game. Love you guys! Excellent article as well OP. The poker analogies I use for a lot of things in life as well. Poker is a good way to train that "freak-out" factor for sure. | ||
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ashwini
8 Posts
-Stop looking at porn -Stop smoking pot -Yeah, control the rage -Stop watching TV / movies / any other form of media Lastly: -Find Jesus | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
-Find Jesus what if theres no concrete evidence or proof that he exist in any form or even existed | ||
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Nomad123
95 Posts
On January 30 2012 18:20 Zanazuah wrote: what if theres no concrete evidence or proof that he exist in any form or even existed let's not make this into a religion discussion | ||
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PenGTrisha
Korea (South)27 Posts
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
Its more like Positive Mindset: The Key to everything. Seriously Tang, the TL community appreciates the work you have contributed, but please stop making so many topics like this...which makes me think, are you just trying to gain popularity by spamming topics? Do not get me wrong, I think this is a good criticism (apologies if it sounds a lil rude) but some of your guides are really good, and there is no need to make so many guides. Focus on a few first, then think about writing more guides. | ||
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JDub
United States976 Posts
On January 30 2012 23:05 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Positive Mindset: The Key to SC2 Its more like Positive Mindset: The Key to everything. Seriously Tang, the TL community appreciates the work you have contributed, but please stop making so many topics like this...which makes me think, are you just trying to gain popularity by spamming topics? Do not get me wrong, I think this is a good criticism (apologies if it sounds a lil rude) but some of your guides are really good, and there is no need to make so many guides. Focus on a few first, then think about writing more guides. It's a little weird to be telling Tang not to make topics like this when it's 5-6 months after he wrote it... | ||
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