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On March 09 2011 07:39 ChefStarCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 07:23 King of Blades wrote:On March 08 2011 15:33 ChefStarCraft wrote:
I apologize, I haven't been able to give this thread the same attention i could with my others, I will make it a note to organize it like the others when i have time. I edited this late last night and was not thinking at 100%.
I embarrassed myself with my poor grammar, but i cant help but feel insulted. You practically jumped at the opportunity to give me insults and make me look even more like a fool then was deserved. I'm only trying to experiment and pitch out ideas to help better our mechanics. The fact that I'm sharing is selfless, flashing team liquids rules at me like your some sort of power or figure of importance, was further demeaning and insulting. Why should i have to sit here and take that ?
Your picking apart of my steps is simply re wording it, my wording was fine. Your not making anything any clearer then I am. In fact that whole post was completely unneeded, it was just a hard attempt to put me down, and try and make me look stupid.
As for the threads current roughness, it will be cleaned up in due time, I am sorry for the inconvenience, When in fact it is only inconveniencing me. Which is why I can't respect you or your post.
I choose to share my ideas with others, something that i don't need to do by any means.
My ideas help many, you posting that just restating what i was explaining and poking at my character dosent make you a good contributor, or intelligent for that matter, just rude.
Referring to this line and your whole post:, "I guarantee you that if you follow this advice the response to your threads will change from confusion and frustration to near universal praise.",
Trying to create a situation where you can give advice while putting me down dose not justify the delivery. Its just misleading, unnecessary and sounds like your talking down to me, as if you we're superior. Again, I will organize this thread further when i have more time. you sir are not teaching me a lesson like your guarantee states. There is a way to treat people, and go about saying and doing things in life, and you sir seem to lack that.
That was a sad attempt to make your post sound like it was in some way meaningful or useful. Like I already stated I will clean up this thread when i find the time, until then it wont be 100% organized.
I miss looked a step or 2 pre-edit, that is now fixed. This is why people are having problems understanding and executing the problem. Again, it was late.
And I have no interest in filling up my thread with arguments over this matter, pm me if it proves to be so important.
I feel Its ridiculous enough, to have to defend my good name from this rubbish, when sharing and talking about ideas with the public.
On to the threads purpose.
Step 1: Create Control group of overlords
Step 2: Position overlords
Step 3: Press follow current selection
Step:4: Press control group of ovys
Step 4: Box the zoned in group of ovies and move to mineral line
Step 5: Press Unload hotkey and click a ovy and repeat until they're all unloaded.
Step 6: *Press the overlords control group again*
Step 7: Press Shift and click on an overlord (if it dosent zone you to the overlords after the first deselect, deselect another, until it works it can take one or 2 trys, sometimes on the first overlord sometimes on the last.) ( I'm not sure how to explain this behavior)
Ok this will work now, once your done unloading, you deselect the overlords and it will zone you to the other overlords in the same control group across the map, allowing you to multi-task those units in that same control group. Your wording was not fine, I, for one, had absolutely no idea what you were talking about till he translated it. He gave you some advice and tried to help and you got hostile instantly cause he's ruining your "good name". Well, "good names" tend to be ruined more when you get all defensive and attack someone who's trying to help you. The technique is slower and less efficient then hotkeying them separately and tapping to switch, it's not feasible. The wording was in fact fine. It was no different then from what he posted, just slightly re worded. His post was not necessary. He was stating something and insulting me over a matter I already explained. I will re explain it to you. I haven't put my full attention into this thread yet, and haven't 100% organized it, let it be said that its not 100% complete. That dosent mean that the message dosent get delivered I got defensive because he insulted my grammar, when in fact its not as horrible as he states. He makes it sound like its completely unreadable and as if a 2 year old had written it. I just don't take kindly to people talking down to me, or insulting me. Show nested quote +
The technique is slower and less efficient then hotkeying them separately and tapping to switch, it's not feasible.
It can be done at a reasonable speed and can be feasible in play. Just because its not in your play dosent make it not feasible. I also specifically requested not to fill up this thread with nonsense and arguments. This is the end of it. If you feel you have something to say pm me.
"The wording was in fact fine. It was no different then from what he posted, just slightly re worded."
I literally am speechless at this. Read that carefully.
Why would you post this if you weren't ready to pay attention to it and hadn't organized it?
And I'm sorry to inform you of this, but you don't get to decide what is posted in your topic, if we disagree, you have to deal with it.
If you have all your hotkeys used, I will admit this could be useful, but otherwise, using two hotkeys is more efficient in every way.
I'm done discussing this as well.
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On March 09 2011 15:14 King of Blades wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2011 07:39 ChefStarCraft wrote:On March 09 2011 07:23 King of Blades wrote:On March 08 2011 15:33 ChefStarCraft wrote:
I apologize, I haven't been able to give this thread the same attention i could with my others, I will make it a note to organize it like the others when i have time. I edited this late last night and was not thinking at 100%.
I embarrassed myself with my poor grammar, but i cant help but feel insulted. You practically jumped at the opportunity to give me insults and make me look even more like a fool then was deserved. I'm only trying to experiment and pitch out ideas to help better our mechanics. The fact that I'm sharing is selfless, flashing team liquids rules at me like your some sort of power or figure of importance, was further demeaning and insulting. Why should i have to sit here and take that ?
Your picking apart of my steps is simply re wording it, my wording was fine. Your not making anything any clearer then I am. In fact that whole post was completely unneeded, it was just a hard attempt to put me down, and try and make me look stupid.
As for the threads current roughness, it will be cleaned up in due time, I am sorry for the inconvenience, When in fact it is only inconveniencing me. Which is why I can't respect you or your post.
I choose to share my ideas with others, something that i don't need to do by any means.
My ideas help many, you posting that just restating what i was explaining and poking at my character dosent make you a good contributor, or intelligent for that matter, just rude.
Referring to this line and your whole post:, "I guarantee you that if you follow this advice the response to your threads will change from confusion and frustration to near universal praise.",
Trying to create a situation where you can give advice while putting me down dose not justify the delivery. Its just misleading, unnecessary and sounds like your talking down to me, as if you we're superior. Again, I will organize this thread further when i have more time. you sir are not teaching me a lesson like your guarantee states. There is a way to treat people, and go about saying and doing things in life, and you sir seem to lack that.
That was a sad attempt to make your post sound like it was in some way meaningful or useful. Like I already stated I will clean up this thread when i find the time, until then it wont be 100% organized.
I miss looked a step or 2 pre-edit, that is now fixed. This is why people are having problems understanding and executing the problem. Again, it was late.
And I have no interest in filling up my thread with arguments over this matter, pm me if it proves to be so important.
I feel Its ridiculous enough, to have to defend my good name from this rubbish, when sharing and talking about ideas with the public.
On to the threads purpose.
Step 1: Create Control group of overlords
Step 2: Position overlords
Step 3: Press follow current selection
Step:4: Press control group of ovys
Step 4: Box the zoned in group of ovies and move to mineral line
Step 5: Press Unload hotkey and click a ovy and repeat until they're all unloaded.
Step 6: *Press the overlords control group again*
Step 7: Press Shift and click on an overlord (if it dosent zone you to the overlords after the first deselect, deselect another, until it works it can take one or 2 trys, sometimes on the first overlord sometimes on the last.) ( I'm not sure how to explain this behavior)
Ok this will work now, once your done unloading, you deselect the overlords and it will zone you to the other overlords in the same control group across the map, allowing you to multi-task those units in that same control group. Your wording was not fine, I, for one, had absolutely no idea what you were talking about till he translated it. He gave you some advice and tried to help and you got hostile instantly cause he's ruining your "good name". Well, "good names" tend to be ruined more when you get all defensive and attack someone who's trying to help you. The technique is slower and less efficient then hotkeying them separately and tapping to switch, it's not feasible. The wording was in fact fine. It was no different then from what he posted, just slightly re worded. His post was not necessary. He was stating something and insulting me over a matter I already explained. I will re explain it to you. I haven't put my full attention into this thread yet, and haven't 100% organized it, let it be said that its not 100% complete. That dosent mean that the message dosent get delivered I got defensive because he insulted my grammar, when in fact its not as horrible as he states. He makes it sound like its completely unreadable and as if a 2 year old had written it. I just don't take kindly to people talking down to me, or insulting me.
The technique is slower and less efficient then hotkeying them separately and tapping to switch, it's not feasible.
It can be done at a reasonable speed and can be feasible in play. Just because its not in your play dosent make it not feasible. I also specifically requested not to fill up this thread with nonsense and arguments. This is the end of it. If you feel you have something to say pm me. "The wording was in fact fine. It was no different then from what he posted, just slightly re worded." I literally am speechless at this. Read that carefully. Why would you post this if you weren't ready to pay attention to it and hadn't organized it? And I'm sorry to inform you of this, but you don't get to decide what is posted in your topic, if we disagree, you have to deal with it. If you have all your hotkeys used, I will admit this could be useful, but otherwise, using two hotkeys is more efficient in every way. I'm done discussing this as well.
You seemed to have found a flaw in my typing, congratulations. Is it possible that i am human and made a mistake? Heaven forbid!!
So much typing happened that day its bound to happen.
If you must know the reason behind why it was so rough and unorganized to begin with, is because I had started out with one original idea, in fact with the first draft I accidentally started this topic.
I had to quickly finish it and have something to show.
After further testing with the toggle I learned more about its behavior, which completely changing my threads idea.
I feel I need to give at least a explanation for that.
I also know I can not force anyone to follow what i prefer, thats why i prefer it and its not a rule, what i preferred was a genuine thing that is expected of human beings, and isn't up for argument.
In fact nothing is up for arguments so stop trying to do so.
You pointing this out just confirms my opinion that your just trying to make me look stupid with this post. Its time wasted on both our ends sir.
I don't get how people like you get off on trying to make me look bad, and find pleasure in pointing out my mistakes.
Why don't you put allot of effort and time into something, share it with others and go ahead see how it feels when someone completely irrelevant to the matter decides to point out a small error in order to make you look stupid, and proceed to question its theroness as if he was writing it himself.
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Why doesn't one just use two cntrl groups for the ovies and double-tapthe key to go back and forth...... Its faster and requires fewer key presses......
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On March 09 2011 15:45 Crushgroove wrote:
Why doesn't one just use two cntrl groups for the ovies and double-tapthe key to go back and forth...... Its faster and requires fewer key presses......
I'm only sharing my findings, I'm not saying this is better or worse then anything.
Its just a trick you can use if you choose too.
I have recently considered testing having a group of creep tumors and using this method to shift+select and travel between them all individually. This would move your camera all over the map. Allowing you to spread the tumors near by, in theory it should work.
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On March 07 2011 18:00 lost_dm wrote:
Is there a chance to make a video of this? I'm not sure I understood it fully...
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On March 09 2011 20:09 evanthebouncy! wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2011 18:00 lost_dm wrote:
Is there a chance to make a video of this? I'm not sure I understood it fully...
I would really love to make a video that would make it so much easier, but I sadly don't have the software available to do that.
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Just because someone points out a flaw in your posts doesn't mean they are trying to make you look stupid. If you make a topic and expects everyone to be nice, you'd be better of not making a thread at all.
And fyi, saying that your first post is hard to understand is not an insult no matter what the cause.
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On March 09 2011 20:57 nam nam wrote:
Just because someone points out a flaw in your posts doesn't mean they are trying to make you look stupid. If you make a topic and expects everyone to be nice, you'd be better of not making a thread at all.
And fyi, saying that your first post is hard to understand is not an insult no matter what the cause.
You make it sound like I'm a bad guy, I'm really not. I just hold respect to highly, this is obviously to much to expect and is the wrong place. With my profession respect is very important, that is now apart of me.
In the kitchen once you have already proved your worth. Your opinions are taken at a higher level of acceptance. Because if the chef is right he is right. In order to prove him wrong you must be respectful to his opinion as well. If you dared to prove him wrong, you must be ready for his reasons for his opinion if you are still wrong. That just means if your daring to prove him wrong you have really given this some thought, and arnt ready to make a ass of yourself in front of the chef. If you proved him wrong and are in fact right, you are right.
This Is our example of behavior that we follow.
It sets a example to respect a persons opinion,
because their wisdom on the matter if greater then yours.
After all they are just sharing there own personal findings
and don't deserve to be treated in a disrespectful way.
I know I am not a chef on the forums. I am just used to people having a certain level of respect for a persons opinion. We only have this level of respect because we are always helping each other with only good intentions. I feel it could by applied here as well, given its the same circumstances.
It just appears some people don't practice this form of manners.
No, that wasn't the insult, I was told that by others, respectfully too may i add. Its just the way gone about it was very disrespectful.
I understand that if someone we're to point out a mistake there not always trying to make me look stupid.
The way gone about doing these things means just as much as the things themselves.
I believe there is a fine line between sincerely pointing out a mistake and making someone look stupid.
When things are gone about in a respectful manner there is never a problem.
Let it be on me then, I have low tolerance for putting up with bullshit.
I understand that making a thread and expecting everyone to be nice is to much.
Thats why I stopped making threads about my ideas, I feel its just stupid to waste time on
sharing my ideas with the people who can't practice good manners.
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