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mrboo2501
9 Posts
1. If I destroy the upgrade structure (e.g., Evolution Chamber) does it take away upgrades from (a) existing units and (b) units being created? 2. Is there a general guide that talks about which structures should be targeted if you ever make it into your opponent's main? In general, I'm trying to figure what to target first - I know it's a bit of loaded question, so I'm really hoping that there's a write-up on some trade-space on the structures. | ||
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Firkraag8
Sweden1006 Posts
On January 09 2014 08:14 mrboo2501 wrote: I have a couple of quick question (and I'm away from the game): 1. If I destroy the upgrade structure (e.g., Evolution Chamber) does it take away upgrades from (a) existing units and (b) units being created? 2. Is there a general guide that talks about which structures should be targeted if you ever make it into your opponent's main? In general, I'm trying to figure what to target first - I know it's a bit of loaded question, so I'm really hoping that there's a write-up on some trade-space on the structures. 1. No, upgrades are constant. Once upgraded each unit, current and future will have the upgrade no matter if your Evo is still up or if it's destroyed. 2. Depends on the game, if you meet a meching Terran then Armory would be a good idea, if he's doing Bio then Engineering bays. If you face a Zerg who's going predominately Broodlords then perhaps destroy the spire. There's no pre-determined best structure to aim for that works for every game. | ||
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mrboo2501
9 Posts
On January 09 2014 08:29 Firkraag8 wrote: 1. No, upgrades are constant. Once upgraded each unit, current and future will have the upgrade no matter if your Evo is still up or if it's destroyed. 2. Depends on the game, if you meet a meching Terran then Armory would be a good idea, if he's doing Bio then Engineering bays. If you face a Zerg who's going predominately Broodlords then perhaps destroy the spire. There's no pre-determined best structure to aim for that works for every game. Firkraag8, thanks for the quick response! Regarding the Question 2, I figured that it there is no pre-determined structure list to attack and that it is indeed very much situational with a more than several factors to consider. Thanks again! | ||
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St_Michael
United States73 Posts
On January 09 2014 08:35 mrboo2501 wrote: Firkraag8, thanks for the quick response! Regarding the Question 2, I figured that it there is no pre-determined structure list to attack and that it is indeed very much situational with a more than several factors to consider. Thanks again! Frikraag is correct that this is a situational decision. Other than canceling upgrades, another important possibility to keep in mind is your chance to reset his or her tech tree (as was alluded to by killing spire). Killing key structures that are required for later structures, i.e. Cyber Core > Twilight Council > Dark Shrine. If your opponent was going for a timing relying on say, DT's, you've effectively shut that down and at the same time possibly opened a strong timing for yourself. GL! | ||
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
On January 09 2014 08:35 mrboo2501 wrote: Firkraag8, thanks for the quick response! Regarding the Question 2, I figured that it there is no pre-determined structure list to attack and that it is indeed very much situational with a more than several factors to consider. Thanks again! The answers people have given you so far are good ones. I would add that when I coach players sub-platinum, I advise them to target down supply structures instead of any situation where they would harass the mineral line (mutas, marine drops, etc). The reason for this is that the players in those leagues tend to float a lot of money and supply block themselves often, so it's usually a stronger and much more immediate impact for you to supply block them really hard than to kill their workers (since they usually have a bank they're trying to spend anyways). | ||
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
However, if you kill a nexus or cc, be prepared for an all-in. | ||
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[MD]Frostbite
Canada292 Posts
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cKoL
Germany29 Posts
On January 11 2014 10:49 [MD]Frostbite wrote: Basic TvX openers. Cant find any anywhere I look. imbabuilds.com you are welcome  | ||
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Vipermagi
47 Posts
My brother gave me his sc2 account to play. I am quite new to this game. I got a simple question for you guys, I dont know which race would suit my playstyle best. I am looking for race that strength doesnt rely on harrasing enemy or any other crippling form of interrupting enemy economy, instead the race I am looking for should be like: defend all game and win with mid-late game timing? Which race suits best that playstyle? And where I can find some good build orders for that? Thanks for help | ||
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mantequilla
Turkey781 Posts
On January 12 2014 22:20 Vipermagi wrote: Hi My brother gave me his sc2 account to play. I am quite new to this game. I got a simple question for you guys, I dont know which race would suit my playstyle best. I am looking for race that strength doesnt rely on harrasing enemy or any other crippling form of interrupting enemy economy, instead the race I am looking for should be like: defend all game and win with mid-late game timing? Which race suits best that playstyle? And where I can find some good build orders for that? Thanks for help You can play that style with any race, but most people will say Protoss is more suited for that. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
On January 12 2014 22:38 mantequilla wrote: You can play that style with any race, but most people will say Protoss is more suited for that. Zerg works just as well. The only race who's kinda forced to be aggressive is terran. That said, at top lvl, everyone is aggressive with every race. Its simply the best way to play. | ||
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St_Michael
United States73 Posts
On January 12 2014 22:20 Vipermagi wrote: Hi My brother gave me his sc2 account to play. I am quite new to this game. I got a simple question for you guys, I dont know which race would suit my playstyle best. I am looking for race that strength doesnt rely on harrasing enemy or any other crippling form of interrupting enemy economy, instead the race I am looking for should be like: defend all game and win with mid-late game timing? Which race suits best that playstyle? And where I can find some good build orders for that? Thanks for help Try starting with toss. Here are build orders for each match up. Choose one of the basic openers, or ones titled macro builds. GL and welcome to the best game ever! | ||
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HandA711
202 Posts
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Prillan
Sweden350 Posts
On January 16 2014 12:58 HandA711 wrote: does Chrono Boost increase HP/shield regen rate? No. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8281 Posts
It does actually. This has been discussed before. It increases shield regen rate | ||
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Prillan
Sweden350 Posts
On January 16 2014 19:47 Excludos wrote: It does actually. This has been discussed before. It increases shield regen rate I'm sorry, I just tested it. It does increase the shield regen. A non-chrono boosted nexus has 667 HP shields when the chrono boosted one has full shields. (I missed the overlap at one point) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/F7Ri8ov.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nMwd9mt.jpg) | ||
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Vipermagi
47 Posts
Is this zerg strategy an allin? How do I stop this when playing CC 1st? Is there a blind counter / build order to this strategy? Thanks for advice. | ||
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Acey
England16 Posts
Im a protoss player, high master EU and I understand there is alot of balance discussion around protoss ( this isnt a balance whine) and I came up with the proposed ideas for oracles... Im sure zergs and terrans are annoyed by this unit and even some protoss players as its very potent in pvp. I suggest the proposed changes for the oracle. Create an upgrade for the envision ability: perhaps that is unlocked when the stargate is completed on the cybernetics core. The reasons why are, I feel the oracle is particularly strong in pvp as there is almost no counter to it ( pheonix ofc, but as a general overall strategy) you could argue, robo beats DT or DT beats blink. But currently there isnt a real tech path that beats stargate. In WoL it was DT but envision prevents this. Therefore going stargate means that you currently havent a lot to worry about. Also in PvT you can argue the same vs widow drops, the oracle can scout a drop and just come home and envision, where as I feel it would make for a more interesting matchup if the terran had more options. As currently there isnt a real way to punish oracle openings apart from making turrets. Also as its a research upgrade it could introduce a skill aspect as good terrans could figure out if the core is researching after warpgate is done which could suggest the envision ability. Finally PvZ the same scouting skill gap could apply but this could also open up some burrow timings which could be fun! This is just a guy who had an idea, as I say im protoss and I dont like to hear alot of balance talk etc, I just feel this idea could be a fun proposed change. thanks for reading ^_^ | ||
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LordYama
United States370 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On January 09 2014 08:35 mrboo2501 wrote: Firkraag8, thanks for the quick response! Regarding the Question 2, I figured that it there is no pre-determined structure list to attack and that it is indeed very much situational with a more than several factors to consider. Thanks again! Its a good idea to take out structures that prevent enemy from building high tech units (Greater Spire, Fleet Beacon, Armory etc) If you kill it he wont be able to build strong units and will have to replenish with weak ones at least until he rebuilds. | ||
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