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Sir Snoopy
United States57 Posts
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
I am placed in Platinum, simply coz I won 4 - 1 in placement..I do NOT deserve to be here.... So maybe I should just lose on purpose, since there is no win loss ratio until master(or GM) right? I really would lvoe to start from bronze and climb my way up.... | ||
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
Having a muta scout around sounded pretty good to me but its a huge investment. Ive tried to work it into a build but i failed hard since i suck so i thought id ask here. | ||
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TheBoogeyMan
United States17 Posts
On June 04 2011 10:18 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Sigh....I hope i can post here.... I am placed in Platinum, simply coz I won 4 - 1 in placement..I do NOT deserve to be here.... So maybe I should just lose on purpose, since there is no win loss ratio until master(or GM) right? I really would lvoe to start from bronze and climb my way up.... Just play like normal, you have only played 5 games so the games you do play will be a big factor in determining your matchmaking rating. Don't try to cheat the system, Blizzard are fantastic programmers. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
On June 04 2011 09:35 fatguyallen wrote: So, I am a 2v2 plat player and 3v3 diamond (though we are getting our asses kicked in 3v3 atm after the promotion ), and i have recently switched to zerg. To get to the point, it feels very awkward in mid-late game to play this composition. I can't seem to find a way to spend all excess minerals. Zerglings just don't seem to cut it. I am missing some larva injects, that is true, but still it feels stupid to wake up with 2k-3k minerals banked. Should i be producing and saccing zerglings non stop or what is the key to keeping my resources low with this comp ? As a side note, going roach / infestor seems to be a lot easier on my macro since somehow these units fit very well and i don't have any excess of minerals/gas at any time of the game. Any input is welcome. One possibility is taking all of your gasses and putting harvesters on gas. If you're setting on 500+ excess minerals, consider expanding again (2 more gasses!) or making a "macro hatch" in your main base, and an extra queen, increaseing your larva production. | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:35 TheBoogeyMan wrote: Just play like normal, you have only played 5 games so the games you do play will be a big factor in determining your matchmaking rating. Don't try to cheat the system, Blizzard are fantastic programmers. Well I have played a few matches in plat, and I would say roughly the win loss ratio for me is:.....1 out of 4 or 5 games = / So thats why I really would love to go down to bronze... I just have no way do I? Should I keep playing end up where I belong, which i Heard takes ages? Or should I try lose on purpose? | ||
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bankai
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zboss
9 Posts
It really depends on the roach and hydra numbers. If its 70% roach 30% hydra, I'd same this is most common. I suggest, Colossi, Void Ray, Stalker. If you have some immortals in there that helps, and of course sentries. If there are more hydra than that, I would suggest High Templar, Stalker, Voidray, this time immortals hurt, and of course you want sentry. As far as micro you should in this order=> Gaurdian>FF>Shift Focus Fire Bls with voids(try to flank with void rays so they aren't flying overhead of all the hydras>Storm(if applicable)>Blink micro(continuous)>Shift focus fire immortals(if applicable). And that should completely roll the army, Especially when they have a high Hydra comp, Storm lols at it. My question: To put this in perspective I am Mid- High masters. Whenever I try to turn my gateways into warp gates I usually click G click G click G. As opposed to control(or double clicking) and Spamming G, this is just a preference it my takes a little longer but it insures I select them all. But anyway my issue is I do that and all but the first gate way change. I have to painfully press G, wait a second and continue on and in the heat of the moment I just don't do that. I'm moving too quick and I end up not noticing they didn't change until I am flustered and don't have enough units and want to rage. Does anybody else experience this? What causes this? What am I doing wrong? How should I change my mechanics? | ||
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Daniels911
Poland3 Posts
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Deindar
United States302 Posts
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Johnzee
United States216 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:52 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Well I have played a few matches in plat, and I would say roughly the win loss ratio for me is:.....1 out of 4 or 5 games = / So thats why I really would love to go down to bronze... I just have no way do I? Should I keep playing end up where I belong, which i Heard takes ages? Or should I try lose on purpose? Most questions on this thread and around TL seem to be about getting better. This question is about trying to get worse. If you want to get worse, sure, throw your games. Don't try. Give up. You'll be losing in no time and get back into Bronze where you "belong", as you say. If you want to get BETTER, then play your best no matter what damned league you're in. Look at this as an opportunity to play better players and get more experience. If you're really as bad as you say you are, you'll eventually get demoted, but by actually trying you'll be a much better player down in the lower leagues... and who knows, maybe you'll stay in Plat with a good win percentage. | ||
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zboss
9 Posts
On June 04 2011 17:16 Deindar wrote: Good positions to place cannons/pylons in the mineral line? I like to put pylons at the front "corner" of my nexus. Ramp side against protoss and zerg(allows you to put gateway+assim, to delay lings and lots from line) and far side against terran(allows to block vs hellian and drops and doesn't block my units from getting there to defend). I mention that b/c these positions also allow you to get a cannon in the center of your mineral line, maybe favoring slightly to the assim side if gas is one sided. This wont defend all your probes from banshee and muta, but it will give you full detector of banshee and protect the most probes and the nexus. I recommend two kinda in a line aimed at the far side of your base if you see mutas or shees. I do not recommend putting cannons below your mineral line as this will leave more probes unguarded and your nexus, it's not worth saving the slighly less minerals you'll get b/c of blockage. I would not recommend putting your sole powering pylon behind your line either as that can be sniped. But it doesn't hurt to put one back there, as a 2nd power. On June 04 2011 16:49 Daniels911 wrote: Do Vikings beat Corrupters? 1 on 1 corrupters beat viking, though vikings can kite a little. Corrupters: 200 health 14 dmg 2 armor http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/corruptor Vikings: 125 health 10 dmg 0 armor http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/viking Not really a competition. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:35 TheBoogeyMan wrote: Just play like normal, you have only played 5 games so the games you do play will be a big factor in determining your matchmaking rating. Don't try to cheat the system, Blizzard are fantastic programmers. I wouldn't go that far. Keep playing and trying. You'll eventually be demoted to an appropriate division. The system doesn't always work fantastically but it does work and players for the most part get put in the division they deserve to be in. Losing on purpose may get you there faster but you learn nothing when you could be practicing. Question: Late game ZvP:Blink Stalkers Zealots, few Sentrys, Colossus. What rough unit comp should I be trying for? | ||
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zboss
9 Posts
On June 04 2011 18:27 Probe1 wrote: Question: Late game ZvP:Blink Stalkers Zealots, few Sentrys, Colossus. What rough unit comp should I be trying for? Protoss here you want 2 corrupters for every 1 colossi, and mass roach, transition into BLS. -Or- Use up some of the gas you were saving for BLS and get 70% 30% roach hydra, you'll kill me even better. -Or- Use up some of the gas you were saving for broodlords and go mass roach infestor, no corrupters needed use mind control on the colossi. -Or- Go Mass ling infester. Use mind control on the colossi. Transition into BLs with extra gas. As protoss I recommend the first one or the last one. As each will allow you to save up gas for a tech switch. Protoss will try to blink under BLS, but without voids you should overwhelm with roaches/lings. But if protoss is smart he'll go lots of immortals against the mass roach, with phoenix for the infestors. But then fungal growth the pheonix and mind control the immortals. And protoss will go High templar if you go mass ling, for feed back and storm, but make sure you get a good surround with lings and keep your infestors in the back and fungal away... I, honestly I fail so hard at doing these two things, because it requires mad APM and I have lack of practice verse it bc this is new since patch 1.3. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On June 04 2011 10:18 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: The ladder is not constructed to "climb up", it tries (with more or less success) to rank you where you belong. You can try to climb up within your division, though. Regular bonus pool exhaustion will help with that.Sigh....I hope i can post here.... I am placed in Platinum, simply coz I won 4 - 1 in placement..I do NOT deserve to be here.... So maybe I should just lose on purpose, since there is no win loss ratio until master(or GM) right? I really would lvoe to start from bronze and climb my way up.... Also your opponents are not dependent on the league you are currently ranked. However the league depends on the opponents you get, but league ranking always lags behind. Long story short: If you just play normally (this means you try to win everytime) you will get opponents of your strength soon and get in the proper league eventually. | ||
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
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zboss
9 Posts
On June 04 2011 19:04 [F_]aths wrote: Is there a general rule of thumb to decide to go all-in or take third versus forge-expanding protoss, assuming I played hatch before pool? If there is no general/simple rule, I will just try to get more playing experience. It's 100% a map thing. On maps like shakuras you want to get a third, b/c the natural can easily be force fielded off. On maps like Meta, with an open natural, go for the kill. | ||
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dynwar7
1983 Posts
Alright back to a good question  What is one way to beat MASS, as in MASS amount of tank thors? As P and Z AND T as well? P maybe Immortal but they have ghosts....then Brood lord but they have snipe....as for T....? How does T beat another T with HEAVY Mech? | ||
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Johnzee
United States216 Posts
On June 05 2011 00:03 DontLoseSightOfIt wrote: Thanks People. Alright back to a good question What is one way to beat MASS, as in MASS amount of tank thors? As P and Z AND T as well? P maybe Immortal but they have ghosts....then Brood lord but they have snipe....as for T....? How does T beat another T with HEAVY Mech? The simple give-me-a-unit-to-counter-X-answer is this: As T: Battlecruisers are a good option. :D As P: Yeah, Immortals are still good. Also, High Templar got a lot better vs. Thors with the re-instantiation of the Thor energy bar (for feedback). Carriers or just Void Rays are good too. As Z: Yeah, Blords are still good. Most Terrans still haven't figured out you can snipe them. Just keep them safe and pick the army apart with counterattacks, Infestors and Blords. The less simple answer is this: Or if you're playing normal, you can try dropping/harassing/expanding everywhere with a more bio-centric army. Don't wait until he has 200/200 - keep your opponent on the back foot so you don't have to deal with a MASS doom army in the first place (this applies to Z as well). Macro like a madman and you'll have lots of money/reinforcements to deal with the doom push, and once you beat that first push, you win | ||
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ucbEntilZha
United States96 Posts
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