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Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
May 01 2011 00:05 GMT
#2481
Why do some ppl (pros specifically) use screen scroll for their APM spam instead of boxing workers... i was under the impression that APM spam was to warm you up for the game, where you actually box units alot... unlike screen scrolling.
Verror
Profile Joined March 2011
261 Posts
May 01 2011 00:07 GMT
#2482
'Banelings damage buildings ignores the armor of the buildings, so the +1 armor on depot is irrelevant.'


Also, is this true?
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 03:03:40
May 01 2011 02:59 GMT
#2483
On May 01 2011 08:39 KaiserJohan wrote:
Why is gametime different from realtime?


Because of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Game_Speed. Multiplayer games are (with little exception) run on faster which makes game time 1.38 times faster than real time. Contrast this with single-player where normal speed is the default where game time is equivalent to real time.

On May 01 2011 09:07 Ibaneyou wrote:
Show nested quote +
'Banelings damage buildings ignores the armor of the buildings, so the +1 armor on depot is irrelevant.'


Also, is this true?


It's kind of silly for me to verify my own claim, but yes, it is (and it was surprising to me as well when I tested it out in game). Banelings deal a flat 80 to all structures that is unmitigated by armor, even armor granted by the protoss shield upgrade.
ExquisiteRed
Profile Joined February 2011
396 Posts
May 01 2011 03:47 GMT
#2484
When should you sack an overlord vs. toss, since there are a myriad of different offensive pushes a toss can do (4 gate, voidray phoenix, dt rush, 6 gate, ect) all with different timings (from like 6 to 9 minutes into the game) and different responses that you have to make, I'm not sure what the ideal time to do it would be. Does anyone know?
lettuceman44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States7 Posts
May 01 2011 04:17 GMT
#2485
Hey guys, I have a question on practicing builds.

Now I understand that optimally one should know one build per matchup. However I'm in bronze league, and I'm just using a Protoss 2 gate observer FE build. However I use it for all my matchups, and not just PvT.

Should I continue to just fine tune my build against all matchups, or should I really start using two other builds as well?

Thanks in advance!
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 04:42:38
May 01 2011 04:28 GMT
#2486
On May 01 2011 12:47 ExquisiteRed wrote:
When should you sack an overlord vs. toss, since there are a myriad of different offensive pushes a toss can do (4 gate, voidray phoenix, dt rush, 6 gate, ect) all with different timings (from like 6 to 9 minutes into the game) and different responses that you have to make, I'm not sure what the ideal time to do it would be. Does anyone know?


It depends. The golden rule is to sacrifice an overlord when you need the scouting information to make a decision about your play. Thus when you decide to sacrifice your overlord depends not on a particular game time but instead the state of the game, what information you know, and what information you hope to gain from the sacrifice.

For example, you might scout several signs of a 4 warp gate (no sentries, chrono on warpgate, missing scout probe) so you could send in that overlord sometime before the usual 4 warp gate timing (5-6 minutes) to sniff a 4th gate. More commonly, on your lair transition, you probably need to decide what tech you'll be picking up (hydras to stop mass air, roach speed or burrow) when your lair pops. So sending an overlord as your lair is morphing will help you figure out what path to go down.

On May 01 2011 13:17 lettuceman44 wrote:
Hey guys, I have a question on practicing builds.

Now I understand that optimally one should know one build per matchup. However I'm in bronze league, and I'm just using a Protoss 2 gate observer FE build. However I use it for all my matchups, and not just PvT.

Should I continue to just fine tune my build against all matchups, or should I really start using two other builds as well?

Thanks in advance!


There's different opinions on the matter unfortunately. You can read this thread about practicing one build for all match-ups:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=212230

(My advice would be to fine tune your build against all match-ups. At bronze, the limiting factor isn't your build but instead your mechanics, and your mechanics will develop quicker if you focus on a single build to refine instead of three.)
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
May 01 2011 04:32 GMT
#2487
On May 01 2011 09:07 Ibaneyou wrote:
Show nested quote +
'Banelings damage buildings ignores the armor of the buildings, so the +1 armor on depot is irrelevant.'


Also, is this true?

Yes for Banelings deal direct spell damage to buildings through an ability instead of weapon damage. Notice Banelings can't attack buildings with their weapon swings. They target buildings with the spell next to the Explode button
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Crysus
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand29 Posts
May 01 2011 05:06 GMT
#2488
When you see an early third from zerg. ( Around the 7-8 minute mark). as a protoss, what should i do?

Cuase usually the zerg has a huge roach army that i would not be able to break
Wammens
Profile Joined October 2010
12 Posts
May 01 2011 05:51 GMT
#2489
Hey guys, what should I do as Protoss against very early marine aggression on a map with a large choke such as Taldarim altar?
Johnny3Tears
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom1 Post
May 01 2011 08:07 GMT
#2490
Why do pros put 2 marines in each bunker and not 4?
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 01 2011 09:50 GMT
#2491
What do you do when you Sentry expand and the oponent goes Roaches? What exactly do you do with FFs against them?
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iChau
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1210 Posts
May 01 2011 13:05 GMT
#2492
On May 01 2011 14:51 Wammens wrote:
Hey guys, what should I do as Protoss against very early marine aggression on a map with a large choke such as Taldarim altar?


Chrono stalkers and kite the units in the open. You should always have the watchtower so you know the exact forces and this is easy because the zealot is the strongest unit early game, so you can take the watchtowers and clear out SCV's or the marine trying to take it as well.

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Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 13:10:55
May 01 2011 13:09 GMT
#2493
On May 01 2011 17:07 Johnny3Tears wrote:
Why do pros put 2 marines in each bunker and not 4?


1) To increase the effective health of the army by making sure each bunker is "put to use"
2) To tank. As long as a bunker is in front of other units and contains units that can attack, it will be prioritized over units behind it against an a-moved army.

(The last point actually destroys my notion of http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Attack_Target_Priority since it claims that the bunker would not be attacked over units behind it. But I just tried it out and the second point seems to be true not just for bunkers but cannons --- and presumably spine crawlers --- as well.)
SomeONEx
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden641 Posts
May 01 2011 15:08 GMT
#2494
Hello! I think this is a quick question
Why do (atleast I) you mostly see hallucination vs zerg but not terran or protoss?
BW hwaiting!
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
May 01 2011 15:10 GMT
#2495
When playing as toss with collosi vs Terran or Zerg deathball vs deathball, should I be using stalkers to focus down Vikings/corrupters? Like forcefield units, back up and focus? Or just let them attack ground infantry? Never really knew the answer to this, hopefully this is the appropriate place to ask .
Abusion
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom184 Posts
May 01 2011 15:41 GMT
#2496
@SomeONEx
Why do (atleast I) you mostly see hallucination vs zerg but not terran or protoss?


You normally see hallucination researched after warp gate in a 3gate sentry expand build. As you have got around 6-8 sentries it makes sense to use this as a scouting tool as your robotics facility will be late due to you expanding early and no way of poking the front until later as you cannot leave your base of fear of a zergling run-by into the main or a surround in the middle of the map. In PvP the 4-gate is normally used defensively or offensively so poking the front is effective and tell you the enemies unit composition and PvT 3 gate expand or 2 gate robo is normally used which means poking the front and fast observers are used.
TL;DR scouting without getting robotics facility
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ZephyrCat
Profile Joined April 2011
United States13 Posts
May 01 2011 17:41 GMT
#2497
I know there are multiple threads on worker splitting, however since there are so many I can't find the answer to this specific question.

Is it better at the very beginning of a game to build the worker first, or to send your workers to start mining first?

I've seen many opinions in the threads that I've seen and I kind of want a definitive answer...
"I'll kill you with my tea cup" -Riddick
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
May 01 2011 18:35 GMT
#2498
On May 02 2011 02:41 ZephyrCat wrote:
I know there are multiple threads on worker splitting, however since there are so many I can't find the answer to this specific question.

Is it better at the very beginning of a game to build the worker first, or to send your workers to start mining first?

I've seen many opinions in the threads that I've seen and I kind of want a definitive answer...


Doesn't matter at all. The most common answer you'll get though is to build the worker first.
jdc214
Profile Joined May 2010
United States122 Posts
May 01 2011 18:37 GMT
#2499
With any race, how do you drop your units in a line, while the medivac/warp prism/overlord keeps moving forward? I almost always see professional players dropping their units in a line, but I can only drop them all in the same place.
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Erzz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada184 Posts
May 01 2011 18:44 GMT
#2500
On May 02 2011 03:37 jdc214 wrote:
With any race, how do you drop your units in a line, while the medivac/warp prism/overlord keeps moving forward? I almost always see professional players dropping their units in a line, but I can only drop them all in the same place.


Click drop, then click on the drop ship while it is moving.
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