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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 27 2011 14:40 GMT
#2381
On April 27 2011 23:27 Artisian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 08:51 Artisian wrote:
What is the sight range of a xel naga tower(and what is the standard unit of measurement for sight range)?

shameless bump on my question


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Xel'Naga_Tower
Kambing
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1176 Posts
April 27 2011 14:53 GMT
#2382
On April 27 2011 23:40 Anihc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 23:27 Artisian wrote:
On April 26 2011 08:51 Artisian wrote:
What is the sight range of a xel naga tower(and what is the standard unit of measurement for sight range)?

shameless bump on my question


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Xel'Naga_Tower


And 1 unit is roughly 1 zealot. So xel'nagas give you 22 zealot-lengths of vision!

(For reference, most buildings and units have 9 zealot-lengths of vision).
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
April 27 2011 15:30 GMT
#2383
On April 27 2011 23:53 Kambing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 23:40 Anihc wrote:
On April 27 2011 23:27 Artisian wrote:
On April 26 2011 08:51 Artisian wrote:
What is the sight range of a xel naga tower(and what is the standard unit of measurement for sight range)?

shameless bump on my question


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Xel'Naga_Tower


And 1 unit is roughly 1 zealot. So xel'nagas give you 22 zealot-lengths of vision!

(For reference, most buildings and units have 9 zealot-lengths of vision).

Also if you turn Map Gridding on, you'll actually see the individual squares that are equal to 1 SI in Starcraft.
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
April 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#2384
I see people edit and cross out words in their posts, how is this achieved? Do they copy and paste it into Microsoft W and cross out from there or is there an easier way to strike through your text?
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 27 2011 16:17 GMT
#2385
On April 28 2011 01:09 zJayy962 wrote:
I see people edit and cross out words in their posts, how is this achieved? Do they copy and paste it into Microsoft W and cross out from there or is there an easier way to strike through your text?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/smilies.php
moreCode
Profile Joined April 2011
China2 Posts
April 27 2011 16:54 GMT
#2386
not see this
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
April 27 2011 17:35 GMT
#2387
Watching streams and vods, I notice that terran/zergs often don't make overseers/ravens against protoss to deny observers hovering over their bases/armies.

It seems like the investment is quite small and the benefit potentially large (since having the motions of your 5000 mineral army monitored can hurt you a lot more than the cost of a detector). Overseers are cheap, and ravens have other uses.

Why don't the pros do this? Is it because of the APM cost, or is it not cost effective after all?
Needo
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany18 Posts
April 27 2011 17:48 GMT
#2388
Me and my friend getting Problems against Zerg on High Diamond level, we found solid openings against Protoss und Terran and going fine with it but against Zerg they is somewhat a missing "golden threadt"

What would you recommend to be the "solid" opening on TvZ ( no map dependance )
svefnleysi
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland623 Posts
April 27 2011 17:57 GMT
#2389
On April 28 2011 02:35 entropius wrote:
Watching streams and vods, I notice that terran/zergs often don't make overseers/ravens against protoss to deny observers hovering over their bases/armies.

It seems like the investment is quite small and the benefit potentially large (since having the motions of your 5000 mineral army monitored can hurt you a lot more than the cost of a detector). Overseers are cheap, and ravens have other uses.

Why don't the pros do this? Is it because of the APM cost, or is it not cost effective after all?

I'm definitely no pro and I don't know about overseers, but I'm hesitant about making ravens in TvP for a couple of reasons.

Generally I want a reactor on my starport and not a tech lab, and because my raven gets focused quite a lot, switching back and forth to make ravens becomes expensive, both time and gas wise. I could make a new starport with a tech lab specifically for raven production, but that would be quite expensive and with multiple orbital commands (scans), marginally beneficial.

However, I'm expecting ravens to become a larger part of TvP due to the fact that their point defense drone can be amazing if used correctly.
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
April 27 2011 18:09 GMT
#2390
On April 28 2011 02:57 svefnleysi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 02:35 entropius wrote:
Watching streams and vods, I notice that terran/zergs often don't make overseers/ravens against protoss to deny observers hovering over their bases/armies.

It seems like the investment is quite small and the benefit potentially large (since having the motions of your 5000 mineral army monitored can hurt you a lot more than the cost of a detector). Overseers are cheap, and ravens have other uses.

Why don't the pros do this? Is it because of the APM cost, or is it not cost effective after all?

I'm definitely no pro and I don't know about overseers, but I'm hesitant about making ravens in TvP for a couple of reasons.

Generally I want a reactor on my starport and not a tech lab, and because my raven gets focused quite a lot, switching back and forth to make ravens becomes expensive, both time and gas wise. I could make a new starport with a tech lab specifically for raven production, but that would be quite expensive and with multiple orbital commands (scans), marginally beneficial.

However, I'm expecting ravens to become a larger part of TvP due to the fact that their point defense drone can be amazing if used correctly.


This is not a direct answer to the original question, but I do recommend terran and zerg to always bring detection. The risk of getting raven sniped is even less since TvP engages in less battles than ZvP. Nothing annoys me as a P more than not having vision.

Perhaps the pros don't do it because they can detect the disturbance caused by observer and scan and kill. Still, you can see that they miss it a lots of time, and thus have dire consequences (esp when tanks unsiege and the toss knows it.)
Best or nothing.
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
April 27 2011 18:14 GMT
#2391
On April 27 2011 12:29 Quochobao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 12:07 57 Corvette wrote:
Is it possible to FFE (Forge fast expand) in PvP without getting roflpwned by a 4gate/quick attack?


No

HAHAHHHAHAA

Watch Set 2

Answer is: Yes. Although Brown was super clever about how he went about it.
Defendor1
Profile Joined April 2011
2 Posts
April 27 2011 19:25 GMT
#2392
How many zealots does it take to block a ramp from stalkers?
Tallbus
Profile Joined April 2011
39 Posts
April 27 2011 19:51 GMT
#2393
As far as the new patch on the PTR, how sure is it that the patches will be carried out on live servers? Do they ever not implement the changes?
Vuistgevecht
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands77 Posts
April 27 2011 20:17 GMT
#2394
How do you stop a cannon rush as zerg when 15hatcing? im talking about the kind where the pylon is behind the minerals so you can barely attack it, and even when that goes down he builds 2 new ones
Softboing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States68 Posts
April 27 2011 20:20 GMT
#2395
In TvT, what are some ways to catch up in the viking count race? (obvious: kill his vikings/ports/reactors, build more ports)
Humbuuzio
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland78 Posts
April 27 2011 20:21 GMT
#2396
On the european server is "LiquidHuK" the real deal?
I matched up with someone by that name and I would like to know, if anyone can confirm one way or the other. His manner was quite convincing, however his playstyle was not. I can edit in a replay if needed.
ZeroTalent
Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
April 27 2011 20:27 GMT
#2397
On April 28 2011 05:20 Softboing wrote:
In TvT, what are some ways to catch up in the viking count race? (obvious: kill his vikings/ports/reactors, build more ports)


  • Build a Raven (or even two) and drop a PDD during a Viking battle
  • Build turrets with your army to ward of Vikings.

Can we get an official definition of "all-in"? Please?
michaelhasanalias
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)1231 Posts
April 27 2011 23:07 GMT
#2398
I'm looking for a good fast forge build I can p[ractice in team games. Any recommendations?
KR NsPMichael.805 | AM Michael.2640 | SEA Michael.523 | 엔에스피 New Star Players
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 27 2011 23:16 GMT
#2399
Hi guys. I remember this old GIF which was basically Korean characters making a smiley-like image, except it moved. Does anyone still have it?
Comogury
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States412 Posts
April 27 2011 23:58 GMT
#2400
Is there any situation where you can fast expand ZvT close position on shattered temple? I always end up getting bunker rushed and I can't really stop it because marines stream in so fast. If there isn't a way to fast expand, what is the best all in to do when you see a 2rax?
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