So, I've been attempting the day9 funday monday with terran- record of 20 minutes. (WAY too many CC's placed...)- I was wondering if anyone had any tips, or things they found useful? I'm considering just slow pushing with PF's.

I'm fine till the 8 minute mark, where most people decide it's time to push, at which point I get eaten alive. My money's also always really high, as I'm struggling with macroing and keeping it low, while having 400 at the 4, 8, etc mark.

Thoughts?

(Going to try bioballing next.... should of done that a long time ago...)

Uranium

United States1077 Posts

November 10 2010 22:06 GMT

Dumb question - this week's funday monday is to expand every 4 minutes? I don't think Terran is the smartest choice for this...

edit: I see, it is. Well you should definitely go bio at first because it doesn't cost much gas, so you can focus on saturating your minerals at each new base, then just cut a few MM when it's time to expand again.

I really don't see how this is going to work in TvZ, though.

Itrees

United States59 Posts

November 10 2010 22:14 GMT

Wouldn't it make more sense to go gas heavy, if we're going to be throwing 400 minerals at expansions every 4 minutes?

IzieBoy

United States865 Posts

November 10 2010 22:16 GMT

Lol fast expanding terran XD means less production buildings... might as well build units that count like the battlecruiser and go 111 or do the thor drop rush as you'll gonna be making loads of scv that can repair... so gonna try this XD

DumEN

Sweden123 Posts

November 10 2010 22:24 GMT

Depends on what your intentions are. If you really want to win, PF pushing seems reasonable. However, Day[9] wont feature that strat on his show, it is way too passive.

kewkew

Australia31 Posts

November 10 2010 22:33 GMT

pushing forward with PF =/= Expanding. you have to actually take an expansion.

Logo

United States7542 Posts

November 10 2010 23:37 GMT

Has anyone had any luck producing interesting games as this? I'm trying as zerg, which might be the issue, but it just seems like the games end up more or less standard with me slightly behind due to over-expanding and my opponent more able to play tech/econ styles due to the reduced aggression. It hasn't been something that's allowed or caused me to go down weird paths or do kooky things even when I'm actively trying to.

HwangjaeTerran

Finland5967 Posts

November 10 2010 23:45 GMT

Note that taking an expansion with T doesn´t always mean building a cc, you can also lift your existing OC´s.

Selkie

United States530 Posts

November 11 2010 00:11 GMT

Something that would be a nice clarification- as terran, can I build a defensive PF? eg, at my choke in LT.

It's virtually impossible to fast tech. My attempts have all transitioned into losing my whole $%^& base. Most interesting game is where I lost my whole base, ALMOST recovered- but having to plant 2 CC's killed me. Argh!

I wish I could get a game on Shakuras .....

Psymage2

United States50 Posts

November 11 2010 00:43 GMT

#10

if anyone wants to try this with me, I'm up for it. I am a diamond protoss, but I can have fun and appreciate the stuff that you are trying to do. I'm proposing that you set up a custom game with me.
Add me - Acolyte.199 (or .299..forget)

inFeZa

Australia556 Posts

November 11 2010 00:49 GMT

#11

its called funday monday, not take an idea seriously monday.

drolkrad

98 Posts

November 11 2010 03:50 GMT

#12

what are the guidelines to this funday monday, can someone tell me the exactly details?

boak

Australia24 Posts

November 11 2010 03:57 GMT

#13

On November 11 2010 12:50 drolkrad wrote:
what are the guidelines to this funday monday, can someone tell me the exactly details?

You must expand every 4 minutes, thats pretty much it

parkin

1080 Posts

November 11 2010 04:12 GMT

#14

aggressive PF spammage every 4 min sounds fun to me

Shrewmy

Australia199 Posts

November 11 2010 05:03 GMT

#15

On November 11 2010 09:49 inFeZa wrote:
its called funday monday, not take an idea seriously monday.

Pfffft. Pffffffffft.

Who plays for fun these days? [/s]

Lobber

Canada414 Posts

November 11 2010 08:11 GMT

#16

I've been doing it and gotten all my expansions on LT easily as protoss, helps I haven't played anyone above 1k diamond yet but...

I find that gas intensive units are defiantly the way to go, with expanding every 4 minutes there is rarely enough time to saturate your mineral lines, only need 6 to saturate your gasses... Vs Z I've been HT/archon spamming, vs T spamming dts, vs P going well, I had phoenixes voidrays, mass gateway, and immortals so... everything but colossus...

embries

United States70 Posts

November 11 2010 17:20 GMT

#17

We tried doing this in a 3v3 last night for kicks and one game lasted 32 minutes. It was pretty brutal. We are PPZvZZT. Two of us are diamon palyers and one bronze. At the 8 min mark our poor bronze teamate had made no units and was strugglign to macro and get a 2nd expo when both his expo's got ravaged and then his main. I was playing zerg and struggling ab it with massive gas surplus once I was on three bases thanks to making piles of zerglings and drones early on to defend while throwing down a third hatch w/o teching. I eventually got lair and a massive pile of mutas while my protoss partner did arguably the most ignorant cannon rushing ever. He probably built about 80-100 cannons approaching their mutual chokes and into their base. This got me a lot of time to start fielding an army with my 5 bases finally and tech up some. But I think they got sly to our plan. At about 20, a SWARM of siege tanks, vikings, corruptors, and broodlords came to meet us, with a small bioball hunting expo's. It was gg 10 minutes later. They advanced on the cannon wall with the ball of vikings and corruptors defending the tank/BL siege. Was a fun exercise though lol

ishboh

United States954 Posts

November 11 2010 21:23 GMT

#18

if i were you i would put an expo up at their natural, then PF it...would buy some time to get the SCVs going and the third expo up probably...

and by then maybe some tech...

huyNh

Canada366 Posts

November 11 2010 21:35 GMT

#19

funny question, which email do you send the funday monday replays to?

Doomblaze

United States1292 Posts

November 11 2010 22:04 GMT

#20

monday@day9.tv =P

im planning on trying this tonight, and I think getting very early siege tanks to defend your expo is the way to go. Make the third expo into a PF and put some turrets down, its nigh impossible to kill so early, and your main and natural will be defended. You should be able to outmacro your opponent if you can beat their timing push, and from there you can just win

Tobias

Sweden187 Posts

November 11 2010 22:10 GMT

#21

I would make a boatload of sentries and a boatload of HTs w storm, but I'm still trying to climb the bronze ladder and don't want to lose the 300 or so points I have :/
If anyone goes that compo, please show me the replay :D

HTX

Germany265 Posts

November 11 2010 22:28 GMT

#22

You can go 14 cc and use it to wall of. Zergs usually put up their expansion and will not at your choke with ling in time. Put 1 rax down to close the choke then go mass rax and take your expo. Put another CC down at your expo at 8:00. From here you go mass MMM. Zergs dont like 14 CC só be aware of baneling bust between 7 and 8:30 min.

Tip:
- use double OC to scan his tech and have 1 mule all the time
- go early upgrades to fight mutas more efficient

max1001

United States1 Post

November 12 2010 17:05 GMT

#23

I have tried this as terren on LT a few time. I basically get a PF at every expansion and try to make the gold as my 2nd expand. Once you get past the 8 mins mark, you can just macro like mad man. Highest rank opponent I have beat so far is a rank 12 Diamond. I just kept sending wave of mmm to kill his expansions even if it mean losing my whole army while I kept expanding.

DarkenSC2

Denmark8 Posts

November 12 2010 19:26 GMT

#24

Selkie wrote:
Something that would be a nice clarification- as terran, can I build a defensive PF? eg, at my choke in LT.

It's virtually impossible to fast tech. My attempts have all transitioned into losing my whole $%^& base. Most interesting game is where I lost my whole base, ALMOST recovered- but having to plant 2 CC's killed me. Argh!

I wish I could get a game on Shakuras .....

expanding, doesn't mean building a PF at your choke.

means taking an expo, by either building a CC or flying an old one to a new expansion site.

like it doesn't count building an hatch in you main as Zerg, then it would just be easy as Zerg.

also you can chose it to be either per 4th min or 5th min now. He changed it, in the last daily.

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