EPTEDIT: I want to apologize for not reading the guideline when I first started this thread. I will attempt to start threads according to spec from now on.
How many probe to transfer to my expansion?
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Drfluffy
United States96 Posts
EDIT: I want to apologize for not reading the guideline when I first started this thread. I will attempt to start threads according to spec from now on. | ||
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Newti
Switzerland71 Posts
One third is even better so you won't lose a lot of minerals short term from transfering. But then make sure to favor building drones at your expansion instead of your main until you have the same amount on both hatches. | ||
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WarChimp
Australia943 Posts
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naonao
United States847 Posts
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asdfjh
Canada230 Posts
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Newti
Switzerland71 Posts
On August 28 2010 10:14 asdfjh wrote: Wait, I know the transfer half thing is what you do in BW but is also the case in WOL? I remember reading somewhere that resource/min only drops when you start having 3/patch, so logically you only transfer if workers >16. Its not only about maximizing resources per time, its about spreading the scvs so your main and expansion will run dry at the same time. If your main runs out of minerals way before your expansion you have a lot of idle/oversaturated SCVs (if you can't secure another exe). Terran has the ability to control this a bit better with their mules (speeding up the gathering at the newer expansions) but for other races, especially protoss its a good idea to transfer a good amount of workers. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
First of all your race matters as with zerg for example you can choose to make only drones at the expo and other units at the main evening out your drone counts. The distance it takes to maynard matters a lot too offcourse, you simply lose alot more transferring on scrap station then on lost temple for example. Then there is the issue of mining out your main, the more you transfer the shorter the time between your main and expo getting mined out. This is a good thing as you can benefit from your main (thus more bases) longer but isn't always relevant (for example if you tend to expand fast anyway and saturation isnt a issue). Finally there is also the consideration of what else you need your probes/scv's etc for at your expo. I generally prefer a bit more then a normal transfer as it helps me fight off pushes more easily with them. It's worse when you have to retreat though. Assuming you're referring to protoss, your transfer ideally puts about the same amount of probes at your main and your natural. This way you won't have to pay attention to it anymore as with even production your income FROM THEN ON will always be maximum and also quite important your main will be mined out later. For efficiency in your main it doesnt really matter if you have 16 probes or 10 though so transferring too many away is just lost mining time. Also with an expansion you choose to chronoboost the expansion constantly instead of the main if you are only CBIng one which helps evening out. All the theoretical mumbojumbo aside, I just transfer a few early on so my main gets to good efficiency again (so it looks like ~2.2 a patch). This can be 5 probes up till 20 depending on how many I had at the main (sometimes i overproduce at the main for a faster start with the expo) | ||
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Bair
United States698 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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probu
Canada36 Posts
This is just a guideline, because in reality there are different distances to your bases, different obstacles between your bases, different mineral types, etc. I'll do things like make excess probes at my third on Steppes so I can transfer more probes from my third to my fourth, since they are fairly close to each other. You can also adjust the formula to even out the period of time spent in transit and not mining. Do this by transferring your probes in waves. Example: upon taking your third, you can transfer 2/3rds of the drones from your natural over to your third, then once they arrive you can send 1/3rd of the drones from your main to your natural. The result is the same: equal drones at all bases. This method takes more effort but means you won't have a period in the match where many probes at once are transferring and not mining. Again though, this is just a guideline. Don't go counting your probes - just guess and select. Don't go sending your probes from one corner of the map to another either, as you may encounter the enemy and you'll be spending a lot of time not mining. Just aim to keep the probe count even at all your bases, and make appropriate adjustments on how to achieve that goal based on the flow of the game. | ||
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On a side related note: Is there any efficient way to quickly count your drones in game or at a base? Double click on the drones gives a variance of about 3-4 for workers mining gas, more if you're terran and building in the vincinity as well. | ||
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Zaken
United States2 Posts
And If i don't select 10 workers, say I select 12, would be better to just transfer those worker even if it not the "best" amount to transfer?? I am thinking that spending the extra time to select exactly 10 (or we u want) workers i think is more detrimental than messing the transfer count | ||
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HECKER
United States15 Posts
On August 28 2010 12:09 Zaken wrote: On another side note: let say I wanna transfer 10 workers. How do I select 10 workers on my first try ? I find it somewhat tricky since they are kinna moving :D. And If i don't select 10 workers, say I select 12, would be better to just transfer those worker even if it not the "best" amount to transfer?? I am thinking that spending the extra time to select exactly 10 (or we u want) workers i think is more detrimental than messing the transfer count If you select too may probes use the shift key to deselect probes till you have the desired number. For instance in your example: 1) Selected 12 probes. 2) Shift click two probes in the unit window at the bottom of your screen. 3) Transfer remaining 10 probes selected. | ||
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dexus
Canada32 Posts
I believe its 24 units per selection tab? If you can quickly gauge that you have 24 at your main, then transferring 10-12 probes should be more then okay. | ||
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cr4ckshot
United States291 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Half is bad, you lose mining time during the transfer and main with these 2 races has effectively less workers mining if you send half. | ||
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