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[Q] Zerg - 14 gas 14 pool opening

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raybasto
Profile Joined April 2010
United States151 Posts
August 25 2010 04:23 GMT
#1
When you guys go 14 gas 14 pool, at what supply do you guys expand? Also, how many Lings do you make before making drones again?
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greenkid
Profile Joined May 2010
114 Posts
August 25 2010 04:32 GMT
#2
You can go from a 15 early expand for economy or any farther but i will usaully go 16 expand

then make 6 lings as soon as pool is available scout be aggreisve if its p and just go from there
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
August 25 2010 04:32 GMT
#3
I expand on 15. And I make one set of lings to see what he's doing. Obviously I make more lings if my scout or overlord see he's rushing or something. I do not know if that is optimal, but it definately gives me a strong economy. Early rushes and pushes are dangerous but you just need to scout
Khaymus
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States750 Posts
August 25 2010 04:38 GMT
#4
Expo on 20-22 food has been working ok for me. I just make as many lings as needed based on scouting. If you are playing against P I transition to hydra with a quick spire after to counter the 3 legged 1a of doom....if you are playing against T, I transition to muta into ling/bling/muta.
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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 04:47:53
August 25 2010 04:44 GMT
#5
20-22 food is right, depending on how many lings or drones you made is when you'll have 300 minerals to expand. If you made few lings 20 supply is about the fastest you can get it with constant larva production.

Amount of lings you make depends on what you scout and what matchup of course. Most of the time you can afford to sneak in quite a few drones before starting ling production, depends on what you scout though. I send an earlier drone scout than 14 so this allows me to sneak a lot of drones if I see them not being aggressive.

I've been almost exclusively using this build recently vs T.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-25 04:59:20
August 25 2010 04:57 GMT
#6
I only 14 gas 14 pool against Terran nowadays, so what I say isn't necessarily applicable to all matchups.

My ideal expand timing is generally after my first queen. After my spawning pool finishes, I research zergling speed, make a queen, and you'll find yourself with a surplus of 300 minerals rather quickly even when constantly producing lings/drones. If the terran is going for early harass, I'll build my second queen before my natural hatchery and make a few extra zerglings.

How many zerglings you make is largely a matter of taste. I usually make 2-4 when my spawning pool finishes as they're incredibly useful for killing enemy scouts and that odd supply depot/pylon blocking your natural. Often you'll have to make more if you scout early aggression by a Terran player. After my initial lings, I'll often switch to drones for a little while, then build a few more zerglings before really dedicating myself to building an economy.

I find it extremely comforting in ZvT to have a group of 8-12 zerglings around the map, and since 14 gas 14 pool is based around early speed, it would be a shame not to have a decent amount of zerglings at all times. Speed zerlings are great at fending off early marine/hellion harass, and is a great way for zerg to keep map control in the early game.
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Enfold
Profile Joined March 2010
United States110 Posts
August 25 2010 05:05 GMT
#7
On August 25 2010 13:38 Khaymus wrote:
Expo on 20-22 food has been working ok for me. I just make as many lings as needed based on scouting. If you are playing against P I transition to hydra with a quick spire after to counter the 3 legged 1a of doom....if you are playing against T, I transition to muta into ling/bling/muta.


I agree with him. It feels like if you expand before 20-22 it's very easy for your hatch to get canceled. Make enough lings based on what they have but typically start off with 4-6.
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