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Tvetan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 05:19:35
August 13 2010 04:16 GMT
#1
I'm in need of Zerg Help and i know theres more players looking fro their Zerg to be improved then just me, so lets band up and help each other out with this.Iv'e seen a lot of people posting "Help My Zerg!" and i think that it would beneficial for the Zerg players to all go to one spot for some help, and also to review other players advice. So If you wanna Ask for Help or Give advice please do so.

*(if theres another post that I'm oblivious too, point me to it)*
-Bronze League-(got cheesed into it)
I need help with macro, and just am not getting the grasp i need. i feel like im not spending my minerals efficiently enough, and i dont have any tips that can help. i think im getting ahead of my self in game and im trying to do so much at once and im forgetting the "Mental Checklist" that Day 9 Talked about. I've Posted a replay showing one of my games, please give me Positive feedback.
http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/55661-1v1-protoss-zerg-scrap-station
Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.
Oleksandr
Profile Joined July 2010
United States227 Posts
August 13 2010 04:17 GMT
#2
I think you need to be more specific. What exactly the issue with macro that you are having?
Idra: good sir, you appear to be somewhat lacking in intelligence. please refrain from posting until this is remedied, since it renders your opinions slightly less than correct and has a tendency to irritate more informed forum-goers.
village_idiot
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
2436 Posts
August 13 2010 04:47 GMT
#3
Mine from all your extractors
Mass army instead of sending little squads into their deaths
If you have extra minerals throw down extra hatches
Use the minimap to see when you can spread creep
Send your overlords to scout expansions

Most importantly

Learn which units counter which units. You don't wanna make mutas against mass stalkers.
Tvetan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 05:05:05
August 13 2010 04:53 GMT
#4
Watch my replay and youll see my Problem.
Oleksandr-I think you need to be more specific. What exactly the issue with macro that you are having?

Hey man thanks, i will. Is there anywhre i can look to see which units counter which? that would be most helpful. and yea, thats what i shoulda done, more hatchtes menas more units to create and more money going to hatch
village_idiot-Mine from all your extractors
Mass army instead of sending little squads into their deaths
If you have extra minerals throw down extra hatches
Use the minimap to see when you can spread creep
Send your overlords to scout expansions

Most importantly

Learn which units counter which units. You don't wanna make mutas against mass stalkers.


~> Also here's something taht helped me about just overall playing SCII that can help incredibly. I encourage people that are needing any kind of help to check it out. also you can ignore his goofy intro's, he's a great commentator and and funny/goofy sense of humour.
http://day9tv.blip.tv/file/3732340/
Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.
royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 05:02:50
August 13 2010 05:01 GMT
#5
alright well that was an interesting replay to watch =D, I'm assuming you are either Silver or Gold since i didn't see it anywhere but that means nothing... there is alot more fundamentally wrong with your game then just macro and if you want to improve take my advice constructively and not as "omg your an asshole" because it may appear that way. I'll just list the things I noticed well watching the replay @ like x8

1. If at first you don't succeed, don't throw endless amounts of lings at it until you have none left... I'm not sure how many you lost trying to attack a stalker ball next to cannons when you couldn't get a surround off... those units would have easily defended the protoss players attack in an open field because the lings could have surrounded.

2. Mutas are great at harass but not when there are cannons and stalkers attacking you, don't lose units for no reason save them... those along with the lings would have defended and easily overthrown your enemy.

3. Personally... I expand much quicker could be preference but expanding quicker into your third and forth is so important and since you like to neglect queens energy it will provide you with extra larva to macro with.

4. Queens... use them ANY time you feel like you aren't doing anything else and group them in the same control group and either spawn larva on the minimap or control group your hatches separate and double tap the hot key group select the queen and inject larva

5 one thing i'll give you props on you got the evo chambers up then never used them... upgrades = important get them

if you really want to improve watch some madfrog games or Slush two fairly similar styles,

I know i spelled some shit wrong and some might not even make sense but im exhausted and wanted to do a good deed today. Good luck improving and laddering

damn took me to long to type -_-
Tvetan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
August 13 2010 05:14 GMT
#6
@royal.cze ~> Hey man, i gotta say a huge thanks. That makes a difference and i appreciate the time outta' your day. and no worries man i'm not thiin skinned. I like the constructive criticism. Also man, one of my problems is that i cant keep up with myself and what i build, which ive been improving in nicely, but its still a factor i have to take into accnt ie:2 Evo Chamber.
but like i said , youre a great help and i appreciate it.

~Keep em' Comin Guys & Girls~
Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.
Ikkuh
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands170 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 05:17:36
August 13 2010 05:16 GMT
#7
watch idra if you want to improve mechanically too bad there arent a lot of replays from him

also what might work is hotkeying your upgrade structures so you can check your upgrades more easily. Like hotkey them as 9 or 0 so you can hit 9 M+C for upgrades
Tvetan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
August 13 2010 05:18 GMT
#8
Thanks man, that helps
watch idra if you want to improve mechanically too bad there arent a lot of replays from him

also what might work is hotkeying your upgrade structures so you can check your upgrades more easily. Like hotkey them as 9 or 0 so you can hit 9 M+C for upgrades
Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.
royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
August 13 2010 05:20 GMT
#9
just keep playing once you know the fundamentals which you are obviously interested in learning you will start thinking about them in game and it will become second nature.

Tvetan
Profile Joined August 2010
United States9 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 05:22:47
August 13 2010 05:22 GMT
#10
kk, sounds good, just tricky. and yea dream is to go pro. Its not exactly easy to do haha
Education is not the filling of a pail, but the lighting of a fire.
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