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This is a pretty simple question, although I wouldn't be surprised if the answers get a bit more complicated.
I had always figured that Marines had the best synergy with bunkers; they do better damage if they can remain stationary while shooting and are fairly fragile, especially in the early game before Combat Shields. Putting them in a Bunker alleviates both of those issues and bumps them up to equal range with Stalkers. Since Marauders are tougher and good at kiting in open ground, it seemed like Marines had more to gain. However, when I was watching pro VODs, I noticed that they would often give Bunker priority to Marauders.
So, assuming you already have a mixed army of Marines and Marauders, which ones do you put in a Bunker? I'm mostly thinking about situations where you throw down one down to defend against early pressure while you're going for 1/1/1 or a fast expo, but feel free to consider other scenarios as well.
Thanks for reading.
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Another advantage is that the marauders, once upgraded, also slow down incoming melee units before they reach the bunker.
I think a mix of the two could be beneficial (1x Marauder 2x Marines) unless you are facing 100% aerial units, in which case the marauder is useless.
Also, according to http://starcraft.wikia.com
Marines have range 5 (+1 in bunker) and occupy 1 slots.
Marauders have range 6 (+1 in bunker) and occupy 2 slots.
You can use stim pack inside a bunker (correct me if I am wrong)
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I would kinda like a serious response to this, since I still see good players doing it both ways.
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The marine is the better choice for the reasons you listed. You maximize damage by keeping more units alive however, if those two marauders have an important role in your army then you should put them in the bunker. Only situation I've seen where a single marauder had a role was in gretorp's marine ghost build. 1 marauder was there to provide some tanking ability so you want to keep its health up for aggressive purposes.
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Mostly I put marines. But it also depends on the position. I like marauders in there when I scout an early push throw down the bunker with no wall and the bunker is most likely going to fall, esp against heavy Zealots or Lings, since they can tank more damage after the bunker falls. But as I said overall I like the marines. They do more DPS, 4 units with the better range over 2 units with better range, attack air/ground. I believe you have to respond to the situation you have scouted and the enemies army comp ( i know this is basics of SC2 but it is worth saying) and the position/role of your bunker (is it there behind the wall or is it in front of your expansion thrown down to resist an early push, etc).
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I would say marines always. the marauders I would usually keep out and try to maneuver around the base and pick off stuff.
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I usually put marines in, but in certain positions the extra range and slow from marauder is nice, like the nook that juts out next to your ramp in lost temple.
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marines do higher DPS (even more than against a MAR vs armor), while marauders DPS don't get affected by armor. marauders also have slow
but i never make 100% marauder, more like 60%
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I heard day 9 say he likes marauders because marines die almost instantly after bunker goes down but marauders stay alive and you can still micro them.
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I like to go the counter argument and say that marines are more fragile, and bunkers add to their sturdiness, and that with marauders outside, you can slow micro with them better than you can inside a bunker.
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It's more common to see people try to attack the bunker in the beginning because that's when they have the most forces and hence have the best chance of destroying the bunker. Once you realize that then day9's comment about marauders being able to stay alive longer makes more sense. Since the marines will likely be ignored and the bunker/marauders targeted, it's better to have marauders in the bunkers so they can tank more damage after the bunker goes down.
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Depends what you are fighting i guess, but usually the marines have a higher damage output / lower health and should be protected.
I would put one marauder and 2 marines in each for optimal awesome
And just to point it out: yes you can stim inside bunkers
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I would put marines in bunkers. When marauders get focused outside the bunker you can swap them in more eaisly since they have higher health.
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if you have both, put marines in the bunker and have marauders at the back to support them. best way to utilise bunkers.
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Gonna agree with everyone who's said 1:2, only need one rocket to slow stuff down and after then the 'rines come into their own. God help you if mutas rock up...
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Can you rally your bunker units, so you can make them exit on the back before the bunker dies?
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Yes, you can set a rally point for bunkers, just like everything else. 
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Here's my take on it, assuming the opposing army has a well compsition of units (the marines and mararders are equally as effective vs said army); put the marines in it as they are weaker and can dish out quit a bit of damage.
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I would go with marines, just make sure to rally them back and unload before the bunker dies.
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