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Glenn_Beck
United States4 Posts
On March 01 2010 15:45 caution.slip wrote: unfortunately if they're mining minerals and you queue a refinery they wont return the minerals before they start building the refinery. They will finish mining though =o Shift + Click your CC then Shift queue your refinery. The SCV will deposit the minerals then build the refinery. | ||
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Daudr
Sweden275 Posts
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Tomed
United States176 Posts
On March 01 2010 20:33 CharlieMurphy wrote: I just spammed out 20 mules to a yellow mineral base and it took like 1000 of each patch before they all died. Pretty fucking sure they were mining on top of each other. I don't know if it's different for yellow patches but I know that MULEs can't mine on top of each other on regular minerals. | ||
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CowGoMoo
United States428 Posts
On March 02 2010 01:45 Tomed wrote: I don't know if it's different for yellow patches but I know that MULEs can't mine on top of each other on regular minerals. I think they can mine over each other but they try not to. Either way, you want to target different minerals patches with your mules otherwise you end up eating up an entire patch pretty quickly and then ur down to 7 patches instead of 8, haha. my tip: it is almost always a good idea to use Mules on new expansions or the largest mineral patches available to avoid mining out a single base too quickly which would reduce your income rate. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
minerals gained here: 798 924 966 966 882 714 total: 5250 so each mule brought about 262.5 total here (which is pretty similar to their output on blue minerals normally). that's a very large decrease in efficiency from their normal 378 total. Some in the middle might have even been triple and quadruple stacking, being that the data says the middle was mined hardest. Hard to make it out though. | ||
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CowGoMoo
United States428 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
minerals gained here: 450 450 480 510 450 480 480 570 Total: 3870 so each mule brought about 193.5 total. That's a very large loss down from their normal 270 total. | ||
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AndrewGreve
United States30 Posts
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caution.slip
United States775 Posts
On March 02 2010 08:34 CowGoMoo wrote: The Mules try not to stack (but it is possible for them to do so) and therefore waste a lot of mining time moving to different patches to avoid stacking. ah..that would be why then..sounds like a bug =o | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On March 02 2010 09:28 AndrewGreve wrote: Having both queens and hatcheries in same hotkey allows you to spawn larve using the icons instead of clicking your hatcheries. just cast spawn on each hat one at a time, the queens are smart and the closest queen will spawn on each hatchery. just have to get used to tabbing before hitting s to select larve or have two hotkeys 1 with hat the other with queen + hat. The queens are auto selected first. i prefer to hotkey each hatch and just grabbing the queen manually when i see it. Since i'm there macroing and making units anyways. I'm sure this method helps when microing/attacking though. PS- doesn't this trick defeat the purpose of the macro mechanic, blizzard said they added them so that players would have to go back to the base every once in a while to make up for the auto mining workers. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
I tested this by starting a game with the AI and performing exactly 120 actions. The game lasted 2 minutes 6 seconds according to the victory screen (and about that long according to my stopwatch); the replay was 2 minutes 50 seconds long and recorded an APM of 43, which is 120 / 2:50, not 120 / 2:06. Not much of a tip, but I didn't feel it deserved its own thread. | ||
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P00RKID
United States424 Posts
On March 02 2010 15:00 CharlieMurphy wrote: i prefer to hotkey each hatch and just grabbing the queen manually when i see it. Since i'm there macroing and making units anyways. I'm sure this method helps when microing/attacking though. PS- doesn't this trick defeat the purpose of the macro mechanic, blizzard said they added them so that players would have to go back to the base every once in a while to make up for the auto mining workers. Yes. It does defeat that purpose when used like that. And eventually it will make "going back to your base to macro" a noobie move. At least in the eyes of the people that can do that trick to macro while they keep their focus where needed elsewhere. | ||
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PlutoNZ
New Zealand410 Posts
On March 02 2010 09:28 AndrewGreve wrote: Having both queens and hatcheries in same hotkey allows you to spawn larve using the icons instead of clicking your hatcheries. just cast spawn on each hat one at a time, the queens are smart and the closest queen will spawn on each hatchery. just have to get used to tabbing before hitting s to select larve or have two hotkeys 1 with hat the other with queen + hat. The queens are auto selected first. Wow this could be a lot more efficient. You could have one hotkey for queens+hatcheries and another hotkey for just hatcheries so you don't have to tab between queens and hatcheries. I'm going to try this out now. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On March 02 2010 16:47 ShadowDrgn wrote: APM displayed in replays (and in the spectator interface I assume) is normalized to a speed between slower and fast. If you want to know your real APM for a game played on faster, multiply by 1.35. This helps to explain why everyone's APM seems so low. I tested this by starting a game with the AI and performing exactly 120 actions. The game lasted 2 minutes 6 seconds according to the victory screen (and about that long according to my stopwatch); the replay was 2 minutes 50 seconds long and recorded an APM of 43, which is 120 / 2:50, not 120 / 2:06. Not much of a tip, but I didn't feel it deserved its own thread. weird, why was the game so much longer? And how'd u get that number? I did notice my apm was lower, so I've been trying to increase it, it seems my 150 apm is really 202 lol. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On March 03 2010 14:56 geno wrote: As a trick to finding the divisions: look for people in your own division or friends divisions, check their 2v2 ladders, check people on the 2v2 ladders and find their 1v1 division - with enough patience you can probably find any division. Easiest to find platinum 1v1s when looking at platinum 2v2 ladders of course. Anyways, found division 11 this way, leader is ZPr.theamazing if anyone wants easy access to it. | ||
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
On March 01 2010 20:33 CharlieMurphy wrote: I just spammed out 20 mules to a yellow mineral base and it took like 1000 of each patch before they all died. Pretty fucking sure they were mining on top of each other. How many mineral fields were there? 2 per patch would not cause any to mine at the same time. It takes 3 harvesters per patch to break even on full saturation doesn't it? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
* Get burrow and speed upgrade for them asap 50/50 150/100 (150/150?) (burrow is now W) * Use creep tumor(s) to spread ooze outside your base so they move even faster * Instead of having 12 blings in a pile, put 4 in your nat, and split the other 8 into 2 flankable groups when he moves into the nat. Time them all to engage all at once so he literally has no where to run. *Get overlord speed and drops (50/50 & 200/200), you can load 4 blings per lord. When you engage the MnM send lords into him slightly before and drop (drop is now D) them all around the ball, while at the same time sending in your lings/roaches/hydras. *Use Infestor to fungal spore (hotkey F) terran balls, then and just watch them asplode. *Be sure to not just attack move the blings into enemy, you don't wanna overkill things. Try to sorta surround and attack, pull back a little, attack again. *You don't want them being wasted on his Marauders who take like 10 bling hits or something. You want to hit his Marines, good terrans will use marauders as a shield for the marines, which is another reason to use drops or flanks. *Watch out for hellions especially w/ upgraded igniters, They obliterate blings. *If using burrow, watch out for ravens. (both of the above can be countered by using lord to drop blings) *Blings morph kind of fast, so if you already have speedlings, it's best to move them to a safe location close to where you are about to attack/defend and then morph them. (the same way you would with lurkers or guardians in scbw) | ||
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
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DeCoup
Australia1933 Posts
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
Does chrono effect all eggs at a hatch for the 20 seconds? I can see that actually being viable in relatively long 2v2s. | ||
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