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iCCup Sanshorn Mists AE
Remade by: SUPEROUMAN
Currently Published On: North America, Europe, Korea, China
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/gM8Wr.jpg)
This is the remake from Konicki's old map, many changes have been made all over the map. The main shape has been modified, the natural mineral formation has been moved a little bit, the 3rd has been also moved and the island has minor changes. The 4th have more minerals and the gold had a major change, it is now next to the main cliff. Line of sight blockers around the Towers have been removed, the middle highground path have now a more natural shape.
Map used in IPL Team Arena
Additional pictures:
- The Main as well as the stairs:
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- The Natural:
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- The Third:
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- The central Xel'Naga Tower:
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- The Island:
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From the anniversary map thread
The original Sanshorn Mists was a map that was truly ahead of it's time. It has many concepts on it that were not able to be used when it was created. Players did not understand how to play a very open map, with multiple easy to take bases. Games when the first version was released were mostly one base or two base all ins.
It came to my attention several months ago that Sanshorn Mists put into modern play would probably work very well. So we did a silent test on the Korean Weekly. We had several games on it to verify that it would not all be one base cheeses and such. The results were fantastic, with it playing out as a true two player macro map like no other. It was from this that the idea for the AE Maps was born.
You will notice this is the map that underwent the least change from the orginal, as most of the the problems lied in the visual department, and not terrain features. We feel with this visual upgrade as well as some other small changes (adding more pathing routes) that Sanshorn Mists will be the go to for 2 player macro maps in the future.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248383
Map should, as noted, be up on EU, NA, KR & CN.
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Would be awesome if the gold mineral line wasn't so close to the main 
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On August 04 2011 04:55 FlopTurnReaver wrote:Would be awesome if the gold mineral line wasn't so close to the main
That would be nice so the map could be split both ways... but it would make the gold a bit too hard to take as a 3rd I think. Once you're on 5 bases, the opponent will probably be done with his main anyway though.
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This map is fucking awesome cause it has islands and I was so sad that nobody ever used islands anymore and we don't even really know how islands would play out in today's gameplay!
Soo looking forward to see matches on this map now that it has been updated and also looks super sweet 
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This map now has the Leenock stamp of approval! I was talking to him about the maps and he said he think this is a very balanced map ^^!
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I think that the gold base will atleast be an intresting test in a more progessed metagame. Same with the islands.
Maybe the gold needs to be blocked off with rocks thou? Definitely wanna see how games progress on this thou
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Add TheSTC stamp of approval to Leenock's with this. Had a face to face with TheSTC at IPL and 1: his English is actually really good, and 2: he thinks this is a good map that's really balanced. MC and Alive seemed to agree but I did not have a translator with me so I can't say for sure.
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That's awesome news Diamond! Hopefully these great maps can start getting used in more tournaments!
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Hm, is it me or does this map have a Dual Sight feel in it? More importantly, I hope to see this map used in tournaments more, hopefully even GSL hehe ;D
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On October 14 2011 17:33 spaZzNx-` wrote:
Hm, is it me or does this map have a Dual Sight feel in it? More importantly, I hope to see this map used in tournaments more, hopefully even GSL hehe ;D
More like Dual Sight has Sanshorn Mist feel 
Link to the original (made in the beta
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On October 17 2011 13:17 Barrin wrote:This was my personal favorite map in MotM 8 (as the judge write-ups then sorta suggest) and is just one of my favorite maps in general. Still as good as I remember it  I am glad to hear an indication that my idea of a good map is in line with those pro gamers'. I wonder why I never saw this thread til now >.<
I honestly think this is probably the best 2-spawn map in existence currently. So gdlk~~~~~~
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Wow, this is such a nice map as I just saw on the ESV weekly. I love the possibility to expand in two directions as well as the addition of some island expansions. I love island expansions as they make for such interesting play sometimes.
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I feel like I havn't watched enough games (only one actually, shame on me) on this to have an opinion. There's a trend in removing the gold bases from maps now. Do you think it should be done here too. If not, why not?
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It is already done, i forgot to update the thread.
EDIT: done
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Cool. Now I'm gonna cry a bit beacuse of the death of a map feature
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well golds are a comeback killer and if someone falls behind and are in no position to push out, they still have to, because the opponent will grab the gold and just keep the contain until the opponent is mined out. (the other problems with golds can be solved by rocks). So its not happening alot, but a small part of the games are just decided after 10 minutes bug go on for 20, because of the gold advantage. (if you contain the opponent the position of the gold is unimportant heh)
Anyway i love this map ^.^ , games look pretty cool on it and lots of action, though people forgot how to deal with islands ^^; .
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Golds sucked on this map. No one took the actual 3rd, everyone just took the gold as a third and it became a struggle to see who could hold a gold longer.
They actually completely broke the map .
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The design looks fantastic. I would say this is solid map in all regards. I would also say it's a typical map. I've seen maps with a tower in the center and bases along the edges already. Maybe this one is the pinnacle of that type of map, but I guess I'm itching for something new.
EDIT: It is quite lovely, by the way.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
3 things:
1. You may want to update the OP, it still has reference to Gold bases
2. This map is in the upcoming IPL TAC, which is awesome
3. Because of this, Superouman is now officially the map making bonjwa.
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Your two first points are done. Your 3rd one is just your opinion :p
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Aesthetically the map is brilliant and the layout is very smart and very balanced.
The only thing that I'm not sure of are the island bases though. I can't help but think that they would be terran favoured, especially in TvZ. Zerg really cannot take an island base effeciently, since their bases also act as production facilities and defending them from drops is nigh impossible. Terran on the other hand can just fly over a CC full of SCV's, planetary up and throw down a bunch of turrets. This would be especially effective in the lategame when there are no mutas out and the terran can just fly over his main orbital and MULE the island to death.
That being said, I think that the gameplay an island base would bring to the game should definitely be explored more. Consider making it into a pseudo-island. Leave it in the same place but have a narrow bridge with high hp destructible rocks. This way it would still function as an island as oftentimes the rocks would not even be broken down but it would be slightly more balanced I think. Just my two cents.
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On January 12 2012 15:04 shizaep wrote:
This would be especially effective in the lategame when there are no mutas out and the terran can just fly over his main orbital and MULE the island to death.
Your own fault if you don't have mutas (or even drop or nydus) on a map with islands. Mutas actually have the sickest air dominance in the game and make islands a problem ZvT and ZvP singlehandedly.
To fix the imba of this island it would probably just have to be in blink range, otherwise mutas+basetrade rapes in ZvP.
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This map balancing out very nicely thus far: TvZ: 19-21 (47.5%) | ZvP: 16-18 (47.1%) | PvT: 18-16 (52.9%)
Edit: Source is TLPD global.
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