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[UMS] Micro Management Tester

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Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-17 14:10:25
May 13 2011 07:22 GMT
#1
This map is under-going restructuring, check out "Ver 3" for more details and on how to offer help
Map Preview
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Micro Management Tester v2.1

Players: 2
Size: 256x256

Purpose:
The purpose of this map is to allow users to quickly create and destroy any unit in the game for the purposes of testing micro management, unit abilities and composition mixes. Users are able to instantly create units up to the supply cap from any of the 3 races, instantly research any of the unit upgrades and instantly kill units that they no longer need.

The map is intended to host two players, with both players building and microing armies as needed for the purposes of testing.

Ver 3
+ Show Spoiler +

This map was initially created with very simple intentions and objectives. When I made it initially, I had very little knowledge of SC2, map making, or the Galaxy Editor. Recently, I've wanted to do some updating on this map and, with some suggestions from CecilSunkure I'm ready to move forward.

The following are the changes I would like to implement:
  • New Terrain: Terrain from Xel'naga Caverns, Shattered Temple and Shakuras Plateau would make up the new terrain for this map, giving actual locations to practice with that players are familiar with.
  • Base Creation: Some Terrain would be dedicated space to allow players to build bases. This will help players play with not only building placement but also in fighting amidst the buildings of a base.
  • Upgrade Rollbacks: Instant upgrades are nice, but players are likely to want to roll them back too, in order to continue testing smoothly with or without upgrades.
  • Easier Killing: Kill zones are effective, but I'd like to allow players to kill of units with a simple click of some sort, to help facilitate speedier transitions.


I could likely do all of these things alone given enough time, headaches and frustration. However, I'll admit fully that I have very little skill in the editor. That I managed to finish this project initially is surprising enough. I'd love to keep learning, but I'd like to do that from within the context of a team. What I'm looking for would be:
Terrain Artist: The ability to create new terrain is only a part of one's duties as a terrain artist. The Micro Management Tester would need an artist who is especially skilled in recreating terrain.
Data Editor Specialist: Adjusting unit build times and costs is only a small part of what might be needed from a Data Editor specialist for this project. An expert at the Data Editor can help with conceptualizing upgrade rollbacks as well as efficient methods of quickly disposing of units and buildings.
Trigger Specialist: Triggers are one of fundamental aspects of this map and will likely be integral to any upgrade rollback system and instant-kill system that is implemented. In addition, triggers are used to help adjust the map with regards to vision, etc.. a trigger specialist will be extremely useful in making sure the map runs as it should.
GUI Designer: Various aspects of the map may require a GUI to allow the user to have easy, intuitive access to controls regarding the map. A smart GUI designer knows how to create dialogs and GUI but also how to design them in an accessible manner.

I will be filling unfilled positions as best I can, given I'm not an expert in any of the fields. If, by some chance, I'm lucky enough to fill all the positions, then I will remain with the project primarily as a lead, helping to ensure that all the design plans are going well, and offering what I can here or there, but, primarily, simply learning from the project contributors on how to do what.

If you would like to join, simply send me a PM regarding which role(s) you would like to fill as well as a link to any projects you've worked on or are working on in order to showcase your knowledge.

All members of the team will get credit for their work.


Changelog:
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No changes yet


Team:
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Creator/Host - Chamenas


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Micro Management Tester - SC2Mapster.com
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
May 14 2011 05:05 GMT
#2
I've been using this map for a long time since last year, it's very useful and I hope it gets better with version 3!
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
May 14 2011 11:28 GMT
#3
Hopefully! Right now I'm just working on restructuring the Terrain, but I'm having issues even with that. Map Editing is definitely not my thing
adso
Profile Joined March 2011
718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 11:38:30
May 14 2011 11:34 GMT
#4
love the concept = practice practice practice = more fun

u ze man, watch out StarkMods

ps: you do need a terrainer
(i realize the objective lies elsewhere.. and you are the wisest of men to ask for help/team..
keep it up, galaxy is meh/awesome )
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 21:18:24
May 14 2011 21:16 GMT
#5
I'm definitely not a mapmaker. I made this map because, at the time, there were no good maps that did what I wanted, and I wanted a way to clash a variable amount of units with or without upgrades to test micro and compositions, etc...

However, I knew from experience that saying "Hey! I've got this cool idea, anyone want to make it?" usually doesn't go very far, so I made it myself.

I was hoping that, with the map already made and being used (apparently semi-popular) that some more experienced mapmakers might be drawn to help.

Terraining is definitely important, as, in the case of copying terrain, you want to get it exact, and that's not always easy. The following is an image of what I'm making to replicate a suggested area for testing, taken from Xel'naga Caverns.

Here's my area:
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The actual area:
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It's funny because I told Cecil that redoing Terrain would be the easy part. Boy was I wrong...
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
May 14 2011 21:28 GMT
#6
Apparently you can copy and paste Terrain... I feel dumb now >.>
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
May 14 2011 21:33 GMT
#7
On May 15 2011 06:28 Chamenas wrote:
Apparently you can copy and paste Terrain... I feel dumb now >.>

AHhahhah!

Anyways, I'm going to check out the map right now! Looks super excellent and I'm so glad you're putting in time to create this thing
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
May 14 2011 22:19 GMT
#8
Nothing new for the map yet. Right now I'm porting on copy+pastes of the zones you mentioned into the current map, then I'll publish a minor update.
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-14 23:41:21
May 14 2011 23:41 GMT
#9
On May 15 2011 07:19 Chamenas wrote:
Nothing new for the map yet. Right now I'm porting on copy+pastes of the zones you mentioned into the current map, then I'll publish a minor update.


Will there be any new features other than terrain soon*? :D.
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
May 14 2011 23:52 GMT
#10
Everything listed in the Version 3 spoiler tag, hopefully. However, I wouldn't be so bold as to call it Soon. If I have to do it all alone it could take a very very long time. To be honest, I'm surprised I managed to make the original map, it was very scrapped together. I'm hoping people will see the interest in this and offer to help though. I've got a lot of great ideas, but putting them down into the map will be difficult without some people who really have the editor down pat.
hunter3
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States155 Posts
May 17 2011 05:00 GMT
#11
On May 15 2011 08:52 Chamenas wrote:
I've got a lot of great ideas, but putting them down into the map will be difficult without some people who really have the editor down pat.


I find ideas more difficult than coding. Anyways most of what you want has already been implemented in various maps, including mine:

TheUnitTester_v0.95 (International).SC2Map

Feel free to ask me if you have questions about triggers or the data editor. The community over as SC2Mapster is also an excellent resource.
Chamenas
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
96 Posts
May 17 2011 13:56 GMT
#12
A very interesting map, and definitely a lot better put together in many ways. Still, it doesn't quite do everything I wanted (nor even everything already in my map) so I know more is capable. I'll keep plugging on with my project.

I have an account with the same name over at SC2Mapster and have used it heavily in this initial generation of the map.

I enjoy coding quite a bit, I wish the editor felt like coding, then I might be more comfortable in it. Some days I consider whether or not I should just switch over to Galaxy. But, in the end, that's a time issue. Converting ideas to code, though, isn't as difficult as many might make it seem.
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