Now we've got the spoiler function, couldn't we start using them in rep comments, so people can safely read the comments to find out how the people liked the replay, but not get spoiled?

Cloud

Sexico5880 Posts

July 14 2006 05:41 GMT

Teamliquid, and as of now Midian brings the kind of reps that you dont need others opinion to know they are good.

iNcontroL

USA29055 Posts

July 14 2006 05:54 GMT

was nice play by kaaz but rather disappointing by iG.ClouD

sMaCkEr

Peru295 Posts

July 14 2006 07:13 GMT

ah t.t

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

July 14 2006 15:28 GMT

The first 5 minutes are an example why making a 3rd hatch beforeyour lings in zvp is a bad BAD BAD idea. -_-

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

July 14 2006 15:38 GMT

I just finished watching, pretty sad from Cloud. he just continued to mass archons and zealots in the face of ultraling supported by many defilers. I think he should have made more hts, dts, das, and sairs, and just not morphed archons. They do like what.. 3 damage through swarm? He definitely had the resource advantage to take this but lost since he just sat there massing archons rather than teching to air or using a lot of maelstrom/storm combos. Good work from Kaaz, does this guy just go triple upgrades hydraling lurker every game -_-?. I've never really experimented with that kind of style, he makes me want to try it.

ToT)MidiaN(

England2183 Posts

July 14 2006 20:05 GMT

#10

I don't think making that 3rd hatch mattered, kaaz's downfall in the early game was his zergling control. At one point he had an opportunity to attack 2 zealots + 1 probe with 8 lings, you should always take that opportunity.

Cloud's play was ok I thought, his main problem was that he took 9 o clock far too late, it would've been very easy for him to kill and secure that expansion, since kaaz would've had to attack through either the bridge choke or the lower choke between the natural expansion and 9 o clock expansion. Also I think Cloud's unit choice is superior to going air, carriers and corsairs are immobile, cost a shitload of resources and usually COST you the game rather than win it in situations like this (See ELIZA(Proteur) v FA on Luna, if FA chose to spend his resources on mixing reavers into his army then he would've won). You see the problem with carriers is they suck on their own, you need to make a lot of sair to defend them, which costs ends up costing far more, and unless you have a critical mass of carriers AND sairs, the zerg can just turtle his half of the map PLUS the 2 mineral only expansions and eventually, if you can't kill the hatcheries (difficult if he just sits there with mass spore, sunken, hydra) then he will win. With reavers they are so cheap and are just as effective against static defense, and also serve as good defense themselves.

siro)

Australia848 Posts

July 14 2006 22:07 GMT

#11

Kaaz had near a 100 supply advantage at one point and like the other 90% of the game left just a shitload of units on his half of the centre

mTwRINE

Germany318 Posts

July 14 2006 23:23 GMT

#12

very boring rep and nothing special. onesided 40 min macro game.

i thought at the end: ok zeal/arch/rvr vs mainly ling/arch can be interesting, but sadly cloud lost his full shuttle vs some hyds, without any reason to move it into the hyds. (rofl)

TT1_banned

Canada1206 Posts

July 15 2006 01:09 GMT

#13

ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhahahaa

pooper-scooper

United States3108 Posts

July 15 2006 06:41 GMT

#14

Yeah cloud did not much

Smorrie

Netherlands2942 Posts

July 15 2006 23:20 GMT

#15

i didn't watch the rep but see a lot of cloud hating.. we all know he isn't the world's best player, there's no need for all the shittalking.. especially when he's probably way better than 75% of the posters here -,-

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

July 16 2006 05:12 GMT

#16

I think that his best bet would have been dark archons and more high templar instead of so many archons, or reavers

Drowsy

United States4876 Posts

July 16 2006 05:12 GMT

#17

I think that his best bet would have been dark archons and more high templar instead of so many archons, or reavers yeah.

HorsementalitY

United States1159 Posts

July 16 2006 10:41 GMT

#18

i don't see any shit talkin in the responses....just people sayin what they saw in the replay. and yea, i found it as a boring rep too, i was waiting for somethin extra ordinary to happen after that hatch was killed...

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

July 16 2006 23:51 GMT

#19

On July 16 2006 08:20 Smorrie wrote:
i didn't watch the rep but see a lot of cloud hating.. we all know he isn't the world's best player, there's no need for all the shittalking.. especially when he's probably way better than 75% of the posters here -,-

its not shittalking to point out what a player did wrong, that always happens.

jcp

Peru192 Posts

July 18 2006 08:57 GMT

#20

yeah its shittalk

IdrA

United States11541 Posts

July 19 2006 00:37 GMT

#21

no it isnt
saying they suck ass cuz they did this and this and this would be. just saying they didnt isnt.

iNsaNe-

Finland5201 Posts

July 19 2006 22:03 GMT

#22

75?

jcp

Peru192 Posts

July 20 2006 04:04 GMT

#23

On July 19 2006 09:37 HungZerg wrote:
no it isnt
saying they suck ass cuz they did this and this and this would be. just saying they didnt isnt.

for some reason u annoy me

metaxa

Lithuania30 Posts

July 23 2006 19:18 GMT

#24

:D nice comments

Anyway, kinda sad to see pvz turns a bit imba.. don't see many games where ultraling + defillers combination get beaten by toss on land (without some turtle air recources depletion mind control shit game). Mb mass reav or dt + sairs could be the answer, but dt sairs is imho a bit of surprise strat thing, which won't work well if z isn't rushed immediately and have time to prepare for it.. and reav is, well, really hard to execute

more often it turns to turtle too, couse it's too hard to move around with this strat.
Well i hope some Korean gosus, or whoever is willing, turn around with some counter strat, couse i don't wan't to see the funniest mu turning imba. gogo tos ftw!