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tKd_
Profile Joined February 2005
United States2916 Posts
July 13 2006 23:46 GMT
#1
nice trhx
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
July 14 2006 00:59 GMT
#2
nice game,thank you
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 14 2006 01:32 GMT
#3
nice game yes..
cloud just wasnt effective enough with his units i guess
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
July 14 2006 03:47 GMT
#4
Now we've got the spoiler function, couldn't we start using them in rep comments, so people can safely read the comments to find out how the people liked the replay, but not get spoiled?
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-14 05:41:46
July 14 2006 05:41 GMT
#5
Teamliquid, and as of now Midian brings the kind of reps that you dont need others opinion to know they are good.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 14 2006 05:54 GMT
#6
was nice play by kaaz but rather disappointing by iG.ClouD
sMaCkEr
Profile Joined October 2005
Peru295 Posts
July 14 2006 07:13 GMT
#7
ah t.t
West op jOinClan
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 14 2006 15:28 GMT
#8
The first 5 minutes are an example why making a 3rd hatch beforeyour lings in zvp is a bad BAD BAD idea. -_-
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 14 2006 15:38 GMT
#9
I just finished watching, pretty sad from Cloud. he just continued to mass archons and zealots in the face of ultraling supported by many defilers. I think he should have made more hts, dts, das, and sairs, and just not morphed archons. They do like what.. 3 damage through swarm? He definitely had the resource advantage to take this but lost since he just sat there massing archons rather than teching to air or using a lot of maelstrom/storm combos. Good work from Kaaz, does this guy just go triple upgrades hydraling lurker every game -_-?. I've never really experimented with that kind of style, he makes me want to try it.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
ToT)MidiaN(
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
England2183 Posts
July 14 2006 20:05 GMT
#10
I don't think making that 3rd hatch mattered, kaaz's downfall in the early game was his zergling control. At one point he had an opportunity to attack 2 zealots + 1 probe with 8 lings, you should always take that opportunity.

Cloud's play was ok I thought, his main problem was that he took 9 o clock far too late, it would've been very easy for him to kill and secure that expansion, since kaaz would've had to attack through either the bridge choke or the lower choke between the natural expansion and 9 o clock expansion. Also I think Cloud's unit choice is superior to going air, carriers and corsairs are immobile, cost a shitload of resources and usually COST you the game rather than win it in situations like this (See ELIZA(Proteur) v FA on Luna, if FA chose to spend his resources on mixing reavers into his army then he would've won). You see the problem with carriers is they suck on their own, you need to make a lot of sair to defend them, which costs ends up costing far more, and unless you have a critical mass of carriers AND sairs, the zerg can just turtle his half of the map PLUS the 2 mineral only expansions and eventually, if you can't kill the hatcheries (difficult if he just sits there with mass spore, sunken, hydra) then he will win. With reavers they are so cheap and are just as effective against static defense, and also serve as good defense themselves.
Nothing worth doing is devoid of risk
siro)
Profile Joined January 2006
Australia848 Posts
July 14 2006 22:07 GMT
#11
Kaaz had near a 100 supply advantage at one point and like the other 90% of the game left just a shitload of units on his half of the centre
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
July 14 2006 23:23 GMT
#12
very boring rep and nothing special. onesided 40 min macro game.

i thought at the end: ok zeal/arch/rvr vs mainly ling/arch can be interesting, but sadly cloud lost his full shuttle vs some hyds, without any reason to move it into the hyds. (rofl)
TT1_banned
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada1206 Posts
July 15 2006 01:09 GMT
#13
ahahhhhhhhhhhhhhahahaa
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
July 15 2006 06:41 GMT
#14
Yeah cloud did not much
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2941 Posts
July 15 2006 23:20 GMT
#15
i didn't watch the rep but see a lot of cloud hating.. we all know he isn't the world's best player, there's no need for all the shittalking.. especially when he's probably way better than 75% of the posters here -,-
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 16 2006 05:12 GMT
#16
I think that his best bet would have been dark archons and more high templar instead of so many archons, or reavers
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
July 16 2006 05:12 GMT
#17
I think that his best bet would have been dark archons and more high templar instead of so many archons, or reavers yeah.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
HorsementalitY
Profile Joined August 2003
United States1159 Posts
July 16 2006 10:41 GMT
#18
i don't see any shit talkin in the responses....just people sayin what they saw in the replay. and yea, i found it as a boring rep too, i was waiting for somethin extra ordinary to happen after that hatch was killed...
Women, Pot, Futbol and Music
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 16 2006 23:51 GMT
#19
On July 16 2006 08:20 Smorrie wrote:
i didn't watch the rep but see a lot of cloud hating.. we all know he isn't the world's best player, there's no need for all the shittalking.. especially when he's probably way better than 75% of the posters here -,-

its not shittalking to point out what a player did wrong, that always happens.
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jcp
Profile Joined July 2006
Peru192 Posts
July 18 2006 08:57 GMT
#20
yeah its shittalk
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
July 19 2006 00:37 GMT
#21
no it isnt
saying they suck ass cuz they did this and this and this would be. just saying they didnt isnt.
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
July 19 2006 22:03 GMT
#22
On July 16 2006 08:20 Smorrie wrote:
i didn't watch the rep but see a lot of cloud hating.. we all know he isn't the world's best player, there's no need for all the shittalking.. especially when he's probably way better than 75% of the posters here -,-


75?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
jcp
Profile Joined July 2006
Peru192 Posts
July 20 2006 04:04 GMT
#23
On July 19 2006 09:37 HungZerg wrote:
no it isnt
saying they suck ass cuz they did this and this and this would be. just saying they didnt isnt.


for some reason u annoy me
metaxa
Profile Joined January 2006
Lithuania30 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-07-23 21:11:00
July 23 2006 19:18 GMT
#24
:D nice comments Anyway, kinda sad to see pvz turns a bit imba.. don't see many games where ultraling + defillers combination get beaten by toss on land (without some turtle air recources depletion mind control shit game). Mb mass reav or dt + sairs could be the answer, but dt sairs is imho a bit of surprise strat thing, which won't work well if z isn't rushed immediately and have time to prepare for it.. and reav is, well, really hard to execute more often it turns to turtle too, couse it's too hard to move around with this strat.
Well i hope some Korean gosus, or whoever is willing, turn around with some counter strat, couse i don't wan't to see the funniest mu turning imba. gogo tos ftw!
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DeadVessel
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States6269 Posts
July 26 2006 16:58 GMT
#25
great game ty ^^
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
August 23 2006 12:00 GMT
#26
gg
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
SCNewb
Profile Joined June 2006
Canada2210 Posts
September 13 2006 05:21 GMT
#27
you think I'll like this? You were right
Huge iloveOov fan
phexac
Profile Joined March 2004
United States186 Posts
October 09 2006 14:53 GMT
#28
Wow, terribly played by toss. You'd think that after 3 times he'd figure out that line dacing 12 zeal/archon into mass zerg doesn't work...
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