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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
December 26 2005 04:11 GMT
#1
Who's janggi, swedish flag? ;p
It takes a fool to remain sane.
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
December 26 2005 05:00 GMT
#2
really nice game
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NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-26 05:25:55
December 26 2005 05:21 GMT
#3
On December 26 2005 13:11 iNsaNe- wrote:
Who's janggi, swedish flag? ;p

All roads lead to frozenarbiter.

edit: it might not be I guess, but I compared the kotkeys to frozenarbiter's ggl game vs squall[tmg] and they're basically the same.

whoever the toss is, he hates upgrades for sure
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
December 26 2005 05:56 GMT
#4
Yeah looks alot like FA.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
new_construct
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Canada1041 Posts
December 26 2005 09:28 GMT
#5
i think protoss guessed that the zerg is out of resource so he was mainly defending his base. He lost because he guessed wrong.
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
December 26 2005 10:12 GMT
#6
it's fa i bet :D
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maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
December 26 2005 11:51 GMT
#7
it is fa.

i think the toss lost because zerg is gay. earlier shields would have been nice though TT

maelstrom or reavers on d would have been pretty sex also.
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inkblot
Profile Joined December 2004
United States1250 Posts
December 26 2005 13:28 GMT
#8
Cool game, when toss had a ton of archons midgame I thought he would win for sure, but he backed off and never finished it or hurt zerg econ, while zerg did an excellent job of keeping toss econ under control.
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
December 26 2005 13:30 GMT
#9
He had, what, 16 archons and lost? That's so gay. ><

I found myself wishing he would get shields when his army was so archon heavy but to no avail, still quite a nice game.
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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22260 Posts
December 26 2005 14:42 GMT
#10
On December 26 2005 22:30 maareek wrote:
He had, what, 16 archons and lost? That's so gay. ><

I found myself wishing he would get shields when his army was so archon heavy but to no avail, still quite a nice game.


I found myself wondering when the Zerg would stop going Ultra/ling... guess it wasn't meant to be.
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CrownRoyal
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Vatican City State1872 Posts
December 26 2005 16:25 GMT
#11
FA could of used some upgrades or higher tech or something, that zerg just kept throwing shit all over and FA kept letting him do it. I dont really know what to think of this game, FA should of won though.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 26 2005 19:55 GMT
#12
1) No I definitely shouldn't have won, if anything I should have lost faster
2) Archons can't attack sunkens, not when zerg has an army anyway.
3) I was trying to fit in more shield batteries at my expo but the solar arrays stopped them -.-
4) He killed my forges tons, archons dont need armor (I had 3-2), and most importantly, I was running out of gas.

And if anyone is wondering about the horrible opening, well.. We played 10 times, he opened with good-eco expansion everytime but twice, anyway, I had lost a game to all-in ling just before, so I decided to punish his late pool style with 2 gate @ nat.. Unfortunately I had done the same after losing to all-in ling the day before, and he probably remembered, which lead to him pooling first ;p

I'd have gotten shield upgrades if I could afford it.

=]
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maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
December 26 2005 20:10 GMT
#13
On December 26 2005 23:42 EvilTeletubby wrote:

I found myself wondering when the Zerg would stop going Ultra/ling... guess it wasn't meant to be.

Well since the archons didn't have shield ups the upgraded cracklings were still doing a number on them. And I think the guy had so much money at that point tech switching didn't come to his mind at all.

I actually thought you could still win until he got 5 nat secured but I may have just been overoptimistic. :/
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-26 20:18:24
December 26 2005 20:17 GMT
#14
On December 27 2005 05:10 maareek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2005 23:42 EvilTeletubby wrote:

I found myself wondering when the Zerg would stop going Ultra/ling... guess it wasn't meant to be.

Well since the archons didn't have shield ups the upgraded cracklings were still doing a number on them. And I think the guy had so much money at that point tech switching didn't come to his mind at all.

I actually thought you could still win until he got 5 nat secured but I may have just been overoptimistic. :/

Yeah, I thought so too.

I knew he was using the attacks to get 5 set up but I couldn't do anything about it =/ That was the nail in the coffin since I wouldn't be able to mine from the 5 gas TT

I have a game where every expansion on rush hour 2 but one mineral only is mined out and we do a no-money fight for it ;P

But apart from that it wasn't as nice, as the zerg managed to get a hidden expo off and basically just played sunken defence
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
December 27 2005 01:06 GMT
#15
On December 26 2005 23:42 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2005 22:30 maareek wrote:
He had, what, 16 archons and lost? That's so gay. ><

I found myself wishing he would get shields when his army was so archon heavy but to no avail, still quite a nice game.


I found myself wondering when the Zerg would stop going Ultra/ling... guess it wasn't meant to be.


Same, i couldn't believe he went ultra ling for the entire late game, i would've switched after i saw the 16 archon -_-
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-27 02:22:39
December 27 2005 02:22 GMT
#16
I don't think he had any range attack upgrades ;o

Can't remember if he went lurker ling or hydra this game either (I think lurker) so he might not have had had speed/range even -,-

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ubergamer15
Profile Joined January 2005
United States645 Posts
December 27 2005 10:41 GMT
#17
I definately would have gotten Shield upgrades, especially with all those archons. They're expensive, and archons are powerful as it is, but up.'s may have been the one thing needed to turn the tide.

That or carriers, which was sorta out of the question.
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maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-27 13:30:45
December 27 2005 12:41 GMT
#18
Well shields were kinda out of the question too when he had all those archons iirc. I think he didn't see the fast hive until he was getting +2 armor (maybe +1) and so he didn't realize he was gonna need shield ups until he was fighting for 5. And he never really secured it so he couldnt' really afford to spend that money on shields. At least that's how I saw it if I remember the path of things correctly. :/

Edit: T_T Nope I was way wrong. Looks to me like FA forgot he had forges in his main (I guess he thought they died to something?) and made two more at 5 and upgraded armor instead of shields...I guess he thought he was gonna secure it and have plenty of zeals. :|
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
December 27 2005 20:32 GMT
#19
Well, I made the forges to block my cannons, but yeah, I thought the forges in main died later -,-a

And it's not like I didn't expect ultras coming, I just didn't think I could afford getting shield instead of another archon. Especially not when I was fighting to keep my only gas :x
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
RiSE
Profile Joined April 2004
United States3182 Posts
December 31 2005 05:28 GMT
#20
nt fa
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Daral
Profile Joined November 2005
United States28 Posts
December 31 2005 14:50 GMT
#21
On December 27 2005 10:06 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2005 23:42 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On December 26 2005 22:30 maareek wrote:
He had, what, 16 archons and lost? That's so gay. ><

I found myself wishing he would get shields when his army was so archon heavy but to no avail, still quite a nice game.


I found myself wondering when the Zerg would stop going Ultra/ling... guess it wasn't meant to be.


Same, i couldn't believe he went ultra ling for the entire late game, i would've switched after i saw the 16 archon -_-


Indeed. That Z had so much money and he threw away so much of it on ling/ultra attacking cannons and archons, and of course the obligatory archon plague. In the end I guess it didn't matter, but that game could've ended so much faster if he had played differently.
Probability is probably life.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-12-31 21:14:40
December 31 2005 21:13 GMT
#22
0-3 upgraded hydras suck in a big way vs 3-2 toss -.-
They are also only about 1/10th as good vs cannon/templar defence ;<
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
wastoid
Profile Joined October 2005
United States47 Posts
January 01 2006 17:28 GMT
#23
On January 01 2006 06:13 FrozenArbiter wrote:
0-3 upgraded hydras suck in a big way vs 3-2 toss -.-
They are also only about 1/10th as good vs cannon/templar defence ;<

but vs the archons, how could they suck more than the masses of lings he threw at them? I was hoping for hydra+ensare sexiness personally
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-01-02 19:12:13
January 02 2006 19:10 GMT
#24
3/3 cracklings are better vs archons than 3/0 hydra. Mainly because you can't take out a base with hydra, so that leaves P free to sit behind his cannons and build up zeal/temp.
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