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Who has had a greater impact on the Protoss race?
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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diehilde
Germany1596 Posts
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AlwaysGG
Taiwan952 Posts
without him back in 2006 the savior-era, if it wasnt for him to invent the sair reaver on acardia. protoss would never see the light in P v Z nalra fighting! | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
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SilentNoodle
Australia290 Posts
The Dreamer | ||
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DownMaxX
Canada1311 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
Imo the order who was most influential in changing paradigms/builds with toss. I hate how stork made every toss on iccup play so abusive. | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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MoRe_mInErAls
Canada1210 Posts
 Stork revolutionized the way Protoss react to Terrans who get their tank sniped after a fast CC.For that he gets my vote | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On May 08 2009 13:56 Plexa wrote:something positive about Anytime Coming from Plexa this means a lot, in case anyone didn't know  | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
Also, could you write a paragraph like that about each person in the list? In particular, I'm not sure what GARIMTO did, since he was so oldschool. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
He revolutionized PvZ at least =/ rA would have been my 2nd choice. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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LeperKahn
Romania1852 Posts
On May 08 2009 14:19 iLoveKTF wrote: Nal_ra no contest. Why the hell is Bisu so close in votes to Nal_ra?! Making PvZ something winnable seems like an accomplishment to me. | ||
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Lebesgue
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On May 08 2009 14:24 LeperKahn wrote: Who originally made PvZ winnable? Nal_ra Making PvZ something winnable seems like an accomplishment to me. Nal_ra's CV trumps all of these players imo. He is the Protoss parallel of Boxer, doing such crazy moves as the Recall rush vs Goodfriend on Parallel lines, 4 probe rushing some poor zerg on LT, and cannon rushing vs terran. He also dominated the shit out of Neo Guillotine, arguably creating the first highly successful FE PvZ build. As time went on, though, he moved onto developing "Splash Protoss" i.e. Sair/Reaver from island only play to standard maps. It became considered the perfect PvZ strategy, and usually opened with a fast expand. Sair/Reaver became a difficult weapon to stop (see Ra vs July on Raid Assault) and it was probably the first big macro revolution in PvZ as well (considering the success of the is semi-dependent on a fast 3rd). But Nal_ra's contribution to PvZ dont end there, Nal_ra also pioneered the use of Reavers in the lategame in PvZ (see the holywars between Nal_ra and savior, check my blog for more details). His work in PvT is lesser than his PvZ contribution, but nevertheless it is evident. He was one of the first protoss to explore the use of arbiters in PvT (basically unheard of before 2005) which was later developed by Pusan/Anytime/Stork. And then in 2005 he became the first Protoss to successfully execute the 12Nexus on a land map (R-Point) and win. 12Nex quickly became a part of the standard PvT arsenal on big maps (still regularly used today, thx ra!). He is an icon for the Protoss race and is the epitome of everything great about Protoss. Stork's contributions are quite subtle, and indeed is probably the least influential. In his 2005 days he was one of the best users of Sair/Reaver (see Stork vs Gorush, Stork vs Savior) and assisted in developing the Arbiter (see Nada's tour of Aiur courtesy of Stork) but it wasn't until 2007 when he made significant contributions. His only contribution, really, is the standardization of Modern PvT (ie use of Reavers religiously as an opening after a fast expo). Which isn't quite that impressive. Bisu's contributions lie in his PvZ ability which lead Protoss onto a great era. His PvT contributions are near zero, although he did assist in developing modern PvT. His use of Corsairs and DT in PvZ is his contribution really. Reach has done a lot for Protoss over the years. He is the father of Modern Macro Protoss and was the only protoss who could push oov to his limit. In PvZ i'm not quite sure what he did.. My memory gets a little fuzzy before 2005 xD | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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