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Power Rank 04/10/2009 - Page 6

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Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
April 11 2009 06:51 GMT
#101
Jd should off-race as P against lux and beat the crap outta him to show that lux's ZvP is weak compared to his ><
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
April 11 2009 08:34 GMT
#102
(P)Bisu should be in second and (Z)Luxury in third, other then that no qualms, i am a big (Z)Luxury fan but honestly (P)Bisu is better than luxury, and has been playing better as well.

(T)iloveoov is slowly but surely creating a monster, but overall i think (T)Flash is still quite a ways ahead of (T)fantasy, but that might change, and considering this Last month ( and 10 days... j/k ^ ^) (T)fantasy deserves all the credit he has received.

Have the dark paths of the night life corrupted Flash, maybe that is why Rekrul ( i think he is in Korea again, no?) went back.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4751 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 15:21:15
April 11 2009 10:27 GMT
#103
The Ranking is nice, wouldn't change too much. Your reasoning for putting Bisu over Fantasy convinces me, wasn't sure before myself.

The write-up however does nothing for me, I got bored while reading it. I guess you just wanted to get it over with.

But that's just me and I am wrong all the time.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 12:04:59
April 11 2009 12:02 GMT
#104
Finally someone else recognizes that Luxury's ZvP is amazing. Screw the haters. ^_^

On April 11 2009 08:28 scwizard wrote:
About Luxury being #2 though. It may turn out that the only reason he seemed capable of playing late game against JangBi was because he prepared for that match specifically. If he plays like an ass in proleague (which wouldn't be anything new) and shows that he doesn't actually have a late game, then he doesn't deserve that rank.

I don't expect that though, I'm expecting Luxury to live up to his #2.


His late game ZvP is amazing. If you mean ZvT, that could be correct, it's clearly his worst MU.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
DM20
Profile Joined September 2008
Canada544 Posts
April 11 2009 12:03 GMT
#105
I don't get why people always argue about the PR, it is just his opinion, it doesn't change anything.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 11 2009 12:22 GMT
#106
On April 11 2009 21:02 Shikyo wrote:
Finally someone else recognizes that Luxury's ZvP is amazing. Screw the haters. ^_^

Show nested quote +
On April 11 2009 08:28 scwizard wrote:
About Luxury being #2 though. It may turn out that the only reason he seemed capable of playing late game against JangBi was because he prepared for that match specifically. If he plays like an ass in proleague (which wouldn't be anything new) and shows that he doesn't actually have a late game, then he doesn't deserve that rank.

I don't expect that though, I'm expecting Luxury to live up to his #2.


His late game ZvP is amazing. If you mean ZvT, that could be correct, it's clearly his worst MU.


nice flamebait post, just dont bite on it people, he's doing it intentionally probably (hopefuly)
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 12:34:22
April 11 2009 12:23 GMT
#107
On April 11 2009 21:03 DM20 wrote:
I don't get why people always argue about the PR, it is just his opinion, it doesn't change anything.


people are givin their opinion, and reflect on what the PR poster says. That's the idea, else the PR's forum section would be disabled
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
April 11 2009 13:20 GMT
#108
Bisu will clean house as soon as MSL begins. He will win his 4th badge this season
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 11 2009 15:19 GMT
#109
Looks pretty accurate to me. Jaedong is definitely at the top and the other players are within plus or minus one rank of each other.
Brood War loyalist
oo_xerox
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States852 Posts
April 11 2009 15:36 GMT
#110
omg nada <3
I could get a more coherent article by gluing a Sharpie to a dog's cook and letting it hump the page.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
April 11 2009 16:20 GMT
#111
jaedong will win his golden mouse next osl
I_L_Jl
Profile Joined January 2009
United States225 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-11 17:34:07
April 11 2009 17:33 GMT
#112
Looks good, except that (T)Light should be in instead of (Z)by.hero
JohnBall
Profile Joined December 2008
Brazil1272 Posts
April 11 2009 19:19 GMT
#113
Yes, Zergs dominating the power rank! for the Swarm!
Now in order for my dreams to come true we need only to see July, FakeYellow and by.hero up there too. (maybe + Crazy.Hydra)
perfecting the art of five pool forever
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
April 11 2009 19:42 GMT
#114
I hate to repeat what's been said so many times but I also have to agree that it's a bit silly to call Lux's ZvP best in the world. Not to downplay his MSL win but Jangbi played just as bad as Lux played good. Jaedong and July bother have better (and much more consistent) ZvP, IMO.

I don't argue his #2 rank though. He is a Starleague winner and he deserves it.

I like your explanation of Bisu > Fantasy and agree. Team battles often conclude as such, and Bisu is certainly the better player in my eyes. Looking forward to his performance in the new season/round 4, I feel like I haven't seen him play in forever.

Fantasy played a great final against JD. But I still can't help but wonder... Bisu vs. JD... The final that could have been. :'(
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
piratebay
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States399 Posts
April 11 2009 22:08 GMT
#115
On April 12 2009 04:42 erin[go]bragh wrote:
I hate to repeat what's been said so many times but I also have to agree that it's a bit silly to call Lux's ZvP best in the world. Not to downplay his MSL win but Jangbi played just as bad as Lux played good. Jaedong and July bother have better (and much more consistent) ZvP, IMO.

I don't argue his #2 rank though. He is a Starleague winner and he deserves it.

I like your explanation of Bisu > Fantasy and agree. Team battles often conclude as such, and Bisu is certainly the better player in my eyes. Looking forward to his performance in the new season/round 4, I feel like I haven't seen him play in forever.

Fantasy played a great final against JD. But I still can't help but wonder... Bisu vs. JD... The final that could have been. :'(


it is bisu's own fault. he dropped the ball against fantasy hardcore.

newayz, i really don't think lux's z v p is better than jaedong. when i think z v p, july, savior in his prime and jaedong... but now z v p? is lux's better than by.heros? better than jaedongs? better than july? probably not.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7579 Posts
April 11 2009 22:20 GMT
#116
I agree with all of the rankings but fakesteve is 100% wrong about luxurys zvp. It is still notches below julyzerg. His level of play was not nearly as high jaedongs has been at anytime during the last year, even when jaedong lost to tempest ... Luxury had the sickest map pool of all time ZvP against a finals choker that doesn't compare to jaedong consistently (read all the time) destroying great protoss. Jaedong beat bisu is alot more meaningfull then luxury beating jangbi.

Other then that I feel bad for fantasy, the two players above him he demolished in convincing fashion AND was two or maybe three seconds away from winning the osl. That is rough but the fact is luxury and bisu are better then him. Poor guy.
Furia
Profile Joined April 2009
Spain1 Post
April 12 2009 00:15 GMT
#117
" SkyHigh is notoriously a player that has significant nerve problems while playing on TV "

WTF????? He is as cold as ice. Did you watch his last all-kill? I can't think of another situation on which a player would be under more pressure.
leandroqm
Profile Joined June 2008
Netherlands874 Posts
April 12 2009 01:26 GMT
#118
First power rank I agree 100% =D
Nice writeup aswell!

cheers!
What are you tinkering about?
Dice
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)926 Posts
April 12 2009 01:49 GMT
#119
JD will definitely get the Golden Mouse now. It's his! Rawr!!!
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 12 2009 05:11 GMT
#120
+ Show Spoiler +
the best ZvP in the world just showed how dominant he is against the excelent protoss player called Pure
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
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