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bisu vs flash series were much closer than stork vs flash... if you watch the games many times you will see that flash didnt take a risk a single time, he attacked only when he was sure he will win...flash actually doesnt beat his opponents, he overplays them by using every single mistake they make... I mean his style is so defensive but I'm not saying its boring to watch...its just perfect! stork wasnt innovative in his strats, he made the same all the time, but even the games he won and the series overall were not as half as intense as the bisu vs flash game 3 and 4... even thou flash lost 2 games vs stork I think he won quite confident...man, stork just cant win finals I dont know why but for some silly reason he loses all over again and I dont see a reason to put you money in him in the eventual final with stork and flash, thou I think Lux can make it tru... I think i actually voted for him  Anyway Stork was just massing goons with no effect...he was quite predictable but I will still put him above Jaedong in the PR...and where will be Kal?
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Also, stork has just failed when it mattered most, again.
That is why he's 6th on my list.
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finally !
control prodigy #1
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On March 02 2008 11:51 triangle wrote:
Also, stork has just failed when it mattered most, again.
That is why he's 6th on my list.
and what does that matter? Stork would still own bisu again 3-0 now like he did in OSL semis last year.
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On February 27 2008 19:53 trollbone wrote: Flash !!!! Flash !!!! NUMERO 1 !!!! My ranking (very hard) 1 : Flash he is on the final of OSL defeating  Bisu , he lost in the quater final of OSL against maybe the only player who can beat him  Jaedong, he lost showing incredible skills, he woàn the GSI against Stork winning 4 games against P on Katrina ! This player is amazing, no weak matchup, perfect macro, micro, sense, it remembers me Savio at his prime for his anti-cheese skill It's funny to see that a player considered a cheeser now is in the reverse situation of the defender and is doing very good to defend them Prodigy ! Get him a nickname ! 2: Stork, he is like himself, he plays very solidly, he is in the OSL semi-finals, in the GSI final, he won fairly easily against all his oponnent T and P. Maybe his PvZ is not Top notch (although we dont know about it) but u have to acknowledge his consistancy !!! He was good in the finals but he didnt adapt CHOKER !!! 3. Jaedong, Jaedong WAS in fire, but this month no, he won against Flash in a amazing fashion but then lost against him in the OSL quarter final and in the GSI quater final against Flash ! He lost twice on Katrina gainst the same build showing poor decision making He is in the MSL final defeating Mind with ease Jaedong is very good no mistake at all, i think he can beat Stork too, but he FAILED ! 4. Mind he is very solid in all matchup, despite loosing in the group stage of GomTV, he lost partially due to the imbalanced of the maps + Anytime and also because of Flash. He lost in the semi finals of MSL against Jaedong, But he played some good starcraft so rank 4 also is in the OSC playoffs 5. Luxury, he won fairly easily against FrOzean 2-0, he is very good right at the moment, showing very good ZvT, ZvZ, but arguably his ZvP his questionnable If NaDa or BoxeR would have been replaced by Luxury i'm sure he would have qualified ! 6. Bisu, he was not looking good against Iris, not at all, in the OSL he completely destroyed Much 0-2 and he in the semi-finals of OSL against Flash he put up a good show but lost, pretty good for a protoss that everybody said was slumping 7. Kal, i though to myself "why dont put Kal above Bisu he plays better than him even in ZvP", although he is in the finals of MSL, he has a not so hard road, this month he beats JangBi and if u had seen the games u cannot say that Kal was playing this much better, JangBi had a better late game (macro) but Kal has micro and decision with him... 8. Anytime, he lost against Flash in the semi-finals of GSI but he was playing good, and he played against Flash !! He won against Stork in the Grand final and that was good ! He is in the ODT 9. Much, he failed to impress me, going 0-2 against Bisu, 0-2 against Anytime... He plays good but .... meh 10. Casy, this is a reward spot because of his ingenious play and solid play overall, iwhith 3 games he started to amaze me, think of 5 games with him, 7 GAMES, 10 GAMES !!! THATS TOO MUCH, THE EMOTIONS OVERFLOW ME !!!!! ARGGGGGGHHHH 10. U can put also JangBi here i think....
Some minor things to fix but i stay on my positions
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On March 03 2008 00:58 trollbone wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2008 19:53 trollbone wrote:Flash !!!! Flash !!!! NUMERO 1 !!!! My ranking (very hard) 1 : Flash he is on the final of OSL defeating Bisu , he lost in the quater final of OSL against maybe the only player who can beat him Jaedong, he lost showing incredible skills, he woàn the GSI against Stork winning 4 games against P on Katrina ! This player is amazing, no weak matchup, perfect macro, micro, sense, it remembers me Savio at his prime for his anti-cheese skill It's funny to see that a player considered a cheeser now is in the reverse situation of the defender and is doing very good to defend them Prodigy ! Get him a nickname ! 2: Stork, he is like himself, he plays very solidly, he is in the OSL semi-finals, in the GSI final, he won fairly easily against all his oponnent T and P. Maybe his PvZ is not Top notch (although we dont know about it) but u have to acknowledge his consistancy !!! He was good in the finals but he didnt adapt CHOKER !!! 3. Jaedong, Jaedong WAS in fire, but this month no, he won against Flash in a amazing fashion but then lost against him in the OSL quarter final and in the GSI quater final against Flash ! He lost twice on Katrina gainst the same build showing poor decision making He is in the MSL final defeating Mind with ease Jaedong is very good no mistake at all, i think he can beat Stork too, but he FAILED ! 4. Mind he is very solid in all matchup, despite loosing in the group stage of GomTV, he lost partially due to the imbalanced of the maps + Anytime and also because of Flash. He lost in the semi finals of MSL against Jaedong, But he played some good starcraft so rank 4 also is in the OSC playoffs 5. Luxury, he won fairly easily against FrOzean 2-0, he is very good right at the moment, showing very good ZvT, ZvZ, but arguably his ZvP his questionnable If NaDa or BoxeR would have been replaced by Luxury i'm sure he would have qualified ! 6. Bisu, he was not looking good against Iris, not at all, in the OSL he completely destroyed Much 0-2 and he in the semi-finals of OSL against Flash he put up a good show but lost, pretty good for a protoss that everybody said was slumping 7. Kal, i though to myself "why dont put Kal above Bisu he plays better than him even in ZvP", although he is in the finals of MSL, he has a not so hard road, this month he beats JangBi and if u had seen the games u cannot say that Kal was playing this much better, JangBi had a better late game (macro) but Kal has micro and decision with him... 8. Anytime, he lost against Flash in the semi-finals of GSI but he was playing good, and he played against Flash !! He won against Stork in the Grand final and that was good ! He is in the ODT 9. Much, he failed to impress me, going 0-2 against Bisu, 0-2 against Anytime... He plays good but .... meh 10. Casy, this is a reward spot because of his ingenious play and solid play overall, iwhith 3 games he started to amaze me, think of 5 games with him, 7 GAMES, 10 GAMES !!! THATS TOO MUCH, THE EMOTIONS OVERFLOW ME !!!!! ARGGGGGGHHHH 10. U can put also JangBi here i think.... Some minor things to fix but i stay on my positions
Why Mind above Bisu? Bisu will have 3rd/4th in the OSL, Mind has the same position in the MSL. The OSL, especially this season, outranks the MSL. Bisu went further in GSI and Mind lost in GSI groups.
That's the summary of February. Luxury should be above Bisu, and Bisu should be above Mind, in my uneducated opinion.
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bisu
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nada
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On March 03 2008 01:15 NathanSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2008 00:58 trollbone wrote:On February 27 2008 19:53 trollbone wrote:Flash !!!! Flash !!!! NUMERO 1 !!!! My ranking (very hard) 1 : Flash he is on the final of OSL defeating Bisu , he lost in the quater final of OSL against maybe the only player who can beat him Jaedong, he lost showing incredible skills, he woàn the GSI against Stork winning 4 games against P on Katrina ! This player is amazing, no weak matchup, perfect macro, micro, sense, it remembers me Savio at his prime for his anti-cheese skill It's funny to see that a player considered a cheeser now is in the reverse situation of the defender and is doing very good to defend them Prodigy ! Get him a nickname ! 2: Stork, he is like himself, he plays very solidly, he is in the OSL semi-finals, in the GSI final, he won fairly easily against all his oponnent T and P. Maybe his PvZ is not Top notch (although we dont know about it) but u have to acknowledge his consistancy !!! He was good in the finals but he didnt adapt CHOKER !!! 3. Jaedong, Jaedong WAS in fire, but this month no, he won against Flash in a amazing fashion but then lost against him in the OSL quarter final and in the GSI quater final against Flash ! He lost twice on Katrina gainst the same build showing poor decision making He is in the MSL final defeating Mind with ease Jaedong is very good no mistake at all, i think he can beat Stork too, but he FAILED ! 4. Mind he is very solid in all matchup, despite loosing in the group stage of GomTV, he lost partially due to the imbalanced of the maps + Anytime and also because of Flash. He lost in the semi finals of MSL against Jaedong, But he played some good starcraft so rank 4 also is in the OSC playoffs 5. Luxury, he won fairly easily against FrOzean 2-0, he is very good right at the moment, showing very good ZvT, ZvZ, but arguably his ZvP his questionnable If NaDa or BoxeR would have been replaced by Luxury i'm sure he would have qualified ! 6. Bisu, he was not looking good against Iris, not at all, in the OSL he completely destroyed Much 0-2 and he in the semi-finals of OSL against Flash he put up a good show but lost, pretty good for a protoss that everybody said was slumping 7. Kal, i though to myself "why dont put Kal above Bisu he plays better than him even in ZvP", although he is in the finals of MSL, he has a not so hard road, this month he beats JangBi and if u had seen the games u cannot say that Kal was playing this much better, JangBi had a better late game (macro) but Kal has micro and decision with him... 8. Anytime, he lost against Flash in the semi-finals of GSI but he was playing good, and he played against Flash !! He won against Stork in the Grand final and that was good ! He is in the ODT 9. Much, he failed to impress me, going 0-2 against Bisu, 0-2 against Anytime... He plays good but .... meh 10. Casy, this is a reward spot because of his ingenious play and solid play overall, iwhith 3 games he started to amaze me, think of 5 games with him, 7 GAMES, 10 GAMES !!! THATS TOO MUCH, THE EMOTIONS OVERFLOW ME !!!!! ARGGGGGGHHHH 10. U can put also JangBi here i think.... Some minor things to fix but i stay on my positions Why Mind above Bisu? Bisu will have 3rd/4th in the OSL, Mind has the same position in the MSL. The OSL, especially this season, outranks the MSL. Bisu went further in GSI and Mind lost in GSI groups. That's the summary of February. Luxury should be above Bisu, and Bisu should be above Mind, in my uneducated opinion.
Its not how faar they went, its vs who they played and how well.
doesnt mean i disagree with you. Just that Bisu might not deserve a that high spot either. Just look at how Iris dominated him in GSI?
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On March 03 2008 01:20 ThePhan2m wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2008 01:15 NathanSC wrote:On March 03 2008 00:58 trollbone wrote:On February 27 2008 19:53 trollbone wrote:Flash !!!! Flash !!!! NUMERO 1 !!!! My ranking (very hard) 1 : Flash he is on the final of OSL defeating Bisu , he lost in the quater final of OSL against maybe the only player who can beat him Jaedong, he lost showing incredible skills, he woàn the GSI against Stork winning 4 games against P on Katrina ! This player is amazing, no weak matchup, perfect macro, micro, sense, it remembers me Savio at his prime for his anti-cheese skill It's funny to see that a player considered a cheeser now is in the reverse situation of the defender and is doing very good to defend them Prodigy ! Get him a nickname ! 2: Stork, he is like himself, he plays very solidly, he is in the OSL semi-finals, in the GSI final, he won fairly easily against all his oponnent T and P. Maybe his PvZ is not Top notch (although we dont know about it) but u have to acknowledge his consistancy !!! He was good in the finals but he didnt adapt CHOKER !!! 3. Jaedong, Jaedong WAS in fire, but this month no, he won against Flash in a amazing fashion but then lost against him in the OSL quarter final and in the GSI quater final against Flash ! He lost twice on Katrina gainst the same build showing poor decision making He is in the MSL final defeating Mind with ease Jaedong is very good no mistake at all, i think he can beat Stork too, but he FAILED ! 4. Mind he is very solid in all matchup, despite loosing in the group stage of GomTV, he lost partially due to the imbalanced of the maps + Anytime and also because of Flash. He lost in the semi finals of MSL against Jaedong, But he played some good starcraft so rank 4 also is in the OSC playoffs 5. Luxury, he won fairly easily against FrOzean 2-0, he is very good right at the moment, showing very good ZvT, ZvZ, but arguably his ZvP his questionnable If NaDa or BoxeR would have been replaced by Luxury i'm sure he would have qualified ! 6. Bisu, he was not looking good against Iris, not at all, in the OSL he completely destroyed Much 0-2 and he in the semi-finals of OSL against Flash he put up a good show but lost, pretty good for a protoss that everybody said was slumping 7. Kal, i though to myself "why dont put Kal above Bisu he plays better than him even in ZvP", although he is in the finals of MSL, he has a not so hard road, this month he beats JangBi and if u had seen the games u cannot say that Kal was playing this much better, JangBi had a better late game (macro) but Kal has micro and decision with him... 8. Anytime, he lost against Flash in the semi-finals of GSI but he was playing good, and he played against Flash !! He won against Stork in the Grand final and that was good ! He is in the ODT 9. Much, he failed to impress me, going 0-2 against Bisu, 0-2 against Anytime... He plays good but .... meh 10. Casy, this is a reward spot because of his ingenious play and solid play overall, iwhith 3 games he started to amaze me, think of 5 games with him, 7 GAMES, 10 GAMES !!! THATS TOO MUCH, THE EMOTIONS OVERFLOW ME !!!!! ARGGGGGGHHHH 10. U can put also JangBi here i think.... Some minor things to fix but i stay on my positions Why Mind above Bisu? Bisu will have 3rd/4th in the OSL, Mind has the same position in the MSL. The OSL, especially this season, outranks the MSL. Bisu went further in GSI and Mind lost in GSI groups. That's the summary of February. Luxury should be above Bisu, and Bisu should be above Mind, in my uneducated opinion. Its not how faar they went, its vs who they played and how well.
Which doesn't warrant Mind above Bisu by any means. Bisu played against February Flash, Mind played against February Jaedong. They both went 1-3, and they both played well, whereas Bisu's games were arguably closer.
Other than that, Mind rode relatively weak opponents through the MSL and the month. The only opponents of note are Anytime and Flash in GSI groups. Bisu played against and beat Much in his road to the OSL, and he beat Light in GSI groups. The only real mar on his record is his "WTF" builds against Iris.
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Kal
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I dont see too many candidates for the 10 spot. Jangbi? Nada? Best? Sea? Idk, just make it a power 9 this month. Anytime should be ahead of Much considering GSI. Others are pretty standard.
Also, I dont think Bisu gave a shit about his Iris games. He was concealing his arbiter build for Flash. His goal was to win the OSL. Not some invitational event. So much more prestigous.
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On March 03 2008 05:04 Nick_54 wrote:
Flash
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Luxury
Mind
Kal
Anytime
Much
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I'd say the same, except switch Bisu with Luxury and put Casy at 10 for shits and giggles
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Iris played solid, i think he would take a spot
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On March 03 2008 09:16 disciple wrote:
Iris played solid, i think he would take a spot
He absolutly does not. He got blown to bits by Stork. This is after he went 0-2 in OSC, so he FAILED to even make 1 starleague. Sea has a much better arguement than Iris. He at least 3-0'd his group and beat Much in the MBC survivor before Stork rolled him.
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