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Gregsen
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Germany667 Posts
January 03 2008 06:27 GMT
#81
Wow, I almost absolutly agree with this PowerRank.
If NaDa can make it against Yellow[ArnC] and SaviOr though, he should definatly come back into the PowerRank again.
Boycott Activision whenever, wherever you can.
Red.Cloud
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada235 Posts
January 03 2008 06:28 GMT
#82
i love sAviOr but as long as another zerg is on top i happy :D
i think jaedong will becoem the next god of starcraft, and for a long time :D
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 03 2008 06:29 GMT
#83
great job steve, i like this one a lot

LJD#1!!!

for savior though, CMON!!!!11
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Block
Profile Joined December 2007
United States67 Posts
January 03 2008 06:42 GMT
#84
Nice Steve
jkillashark
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States5262 Posts
January 03 2008 07:18 GMT
#85
Thank you Steve for finally putting XellOs in his rightful place in the Power Rank. =D
Do your best, God will do the rest.
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
January 03 2008 07:40 GMT
#86
On January 03 2008 15:22 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 15:04 zer0das wrote:
I hope Sea wins the MSL and OSL so all the "OMG, you're biased with Sea!" wankers will shut up. If you think he isn't capable of doing just that, you need to watch some more games. That is all.
no one should be on the power rank for being "capable" of winning an individual league. if that was a case you could add on another 15 or so other names.

what matters is results, both in terms of raw results and results relative to other top gamers that month.


thanks mo, u covered my opinion on spot. sea is good no doubt, JUST SHOW ME SOMEHTING BESIDES PROLEAGUE AND GETTING KNOCKED OUT OF INDIVIDUAL LEAGUES BEFORE THE Bo3 or Bo5 BATTLES!! has he ever made it to the ro16? ill go check laterr....
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
January 03 2008 07:43 GMT
#87
On January 03 2008 15:04 zer0das wrote:
I hope Sea wins the MSL and OSL so all the "OMG, you're biased with Sea!" wankers will shut up. If you think he isn't capable of doing just that, you need to watch some more games. That is all.


You keep waiting for that to happen now. How long have we been waiting? Sea's never done anything worthwhile in the individual leagues over what, I think its 2 years now?
I will eat you alive
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
January 03 2008 07:47 GMT
#88
On January 03 2008 06:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Close but No Cigar:

HWASIN: WAY TO SUCK

UpMagic: UpMagic has done well, but within a 2 week span he played Jaedong, Bisu, and Sea. He got mangled by all three and bounced out of Power Rank. Looks like he kind of did revert back to ol' unreliable UpMagic, but we'll see if he can do it again and with more consistancy in the future.

Anytime: Good job, beat someone other than a nobody once in a while though.

Yarnc/Luxury: Still waiting for these guys to.. you know... DO something. They don't win often enough to place without some OSL/MSL results.


for yarnc/luxury, you say you cant place them without some osl/msl result, but what result does sea have? luxury has been doing just as well as sea with the same results in the osl/msl, (jack shit). why isnt he number 6?
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
January 03 2008 07:49 GMT
#89


savior is only ranked as high as he is in the power rank because of what he used to be. he's doing poorly in everything at the moment and you want him ranked even higher?




What nonsense is this? Since the MSL final with Bisu, Savior still consistently makes the Ro8 and Ro4 in both leagues, which is more than you can say about just about every other player not named Bisu or Stork in 2007.
I will eat you alive
nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
January 03 2008 10:01 GMT
#90
I like this pr a lot steve even though it was inevitable that Bisu had to drop to #2
Many of you guys seem to criticize Steve's opinions of being biased and point out evidence such as tlpd stats. You guys have to keep in mind that Steve doesn't just look at stats and rather looks at how strong the players are through their games. Sure he might be a little biased in his PR but it's impossible to not have any bias in these kind of things. I'd say that his PR is dead on except for light but thats just my opinion.

On a side note, everyone seems to be shouting "slump slump!" as soon as Bisu loses to a terran player who won against guys like saviOr and iloveoov. Losing to the world's best pvper isn't exactly the worst thing either even though it was 3-1. Also, Bisu reportedly had a very bad flu during this month that probably affected his gaming a lot. We can't really state whether Bisu is slumping or not until the MSL/OSL starts which will be january 8th (MSL group B). If he continues to play the way he did in this crucial month, then it would be safe to say that he no longer deserves the credit that fakesteve is giving him
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
January 03 2008 10:15 GMT
#91
On January 03 2008 19:01 nujabes wrote:
I like this pr a lot steve even though it was inevitable that Bisu had to drop to #2
Many of you guys seem to criticize Steve's opinions of being biased and point out evidence such as tlpd stats. You guys have to keep in mind that Steve doesn't just look at stats and rather looks at how strong the players are through their games. Sure he might be a little biased in his PR but it's impossible to not have any bias in these kind of things. I'd say that his PR is dead on except for light but thats just my opinion.
yes, and fakesteve is the only person who watches VODs.
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4339 Posts
January 03 2008 10:18 GMT
#92
Great job Steve! I more or less agree with your ranking. Well done.
And you don't have to defend your PR from various people who think otherwise, your reasoning is perfectly clear as it is.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
proA.June91
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Vietnam445 Posts
January 03 2008 10:23 GMT
#93
bisu the no1 :D
the perfect toss go:D
Fear is not what I'll get. It is what I've created myself
nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
January 03 2008 10:39 GMT
#94
On January 03 2008 19:15 LosingID8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 19:01 nujabes wrote:
I like this pr a lot steve even though it was inevitable that Bisu had to drop to #2
Many of you guys seem to criticize Steve's opinions of being biased and point out evidence such as tlpd stats. You guys have to keep in mind that Steve doesn't just look at stats and rather looks at how strong the players are through their games. Sure he might be a little biased in his PR but it's impossible to not have any bias in these kind of things. I'd say that his PR is dead on except for light but thats just my opinion.
yes, and fakesteve is the only person who watches VODs.


Thanks for being an ass about what I say. You can tell just from the past comments here that most of the people don't watch the vods of all the players here and base their arguments on things like TLPD. I never said that other people don't watch VODs but that FakeSteve bases his points on things other than stats. I'm not saying that he is 100% true and that his PR is undisputable, after all thats what the comment section is for. However, his knowledge of the game is a lot more indepth and better than a majority of the people.
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10829 Posts
January 03 2008 11:10 GMT
#95
On January 03 2008 19:39 nujabes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 19:15 LosingID8 wrote:
On January 03 2008 19:01 nujabes wrote:
I like this pr a lot steve even though it was inevitable that Bisu had to drop to #2
Many of you guys seem to criticize Steve's opinions of being biased and point out evidence such as tlpd stats. You guys have to keep in mind that Steve doesn't just look at stats and rather looks at how strong the players are through their games. Sure he might be a little biased in his PR but it's impossible to not have any bias in these kind of things. I'd say that his PR is dead on except for light but thats just my opinion.
yes, and fakesteve is the only person who watches VODs.


Thanks for being an ass about what I say. You can tell just from the past comments here that most of the people don't watch the vods of all the players here and base their arguments on things like TLPD. I never said that other people don't watch VODs but that FakeSteve bases his points on things other than stats. I'm not saying that he is 100% true and that his PR is undisputable, after all thats what the comment section is for. However, his knowledge of the game is a lot more indepth and better than a majority of the people.
i just reread the thread and i hardly see any comments that are based solely on TLPD arguments. rather, most of the comments in this thread have had pretty solid evidence to back up their claims. it's pretty outrageous of you to come out of nowhere and claim that the majority of people here don't watch VODs and aren't knowledgeable about progaming.

and yes, i agree with you about light.
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-03 12:42:07
January 03 2008 12:38 GMT
#96
On January 03 2008 16:43 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 15:04 zer0das wrote:
I hope Sea wins the MSL and OSL so all the "OMG, you're biased with Sea!" wankers will shut up. If you think he isn't capable of doing just that, you need to watch some more games. That is all.


You keep waiting for that to happen now. How long have we been waiting? Sea's never done anything worthwhile in the individual leagues over what, I think its 2 years now?

Hey , Zerodas, fuck you

Why do you feel Sea is such a strong canidate for such a feat, when no other player in modern bw has been able to do so? Despite him preforming horribly in individual leagues up until now.

Overall though I pretty much completely agree with the power rank.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 03 2008 12:39 GMT
#97
On January 03 2008 16:49 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +


savior is only ranked as high as he is in the power rank because of what he used to be. he's doing poorly in everything at the moment and you want him ranked even higher?




What nonsense is this? Since the MSL final with Bisu, Savior still consistently makes the Ro8 and Ro4 in both leagues, which is more than you can say about just about every other player not named Bisu or Stork in 2007.


I expect Bisu and Stork to continue reaching Ro8s for a long time (not qualifying for MSL seems like an aberration for Stork more than anything). Watching Savior play ZvT is downright painful and at the rate he's going I expect him to start getting knocked out earlier unless he does something to fix his game play.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-03 12:44:51
January 03 2008 12:44 GMT
#98
On January 03 2008 19:39 nujabes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 19:15 LosingID8 wrote:
On January 03 2008 19:01 nujabes wrote:
I like this pr a lot steve even though it was inevitable that Bisu had to drop to #2
Many of you guys seem to criticize Steve's opinions of being biased and point out evidence such as tlpd stats. You guys have to keep in mind that Steve doesn't just look at stats and rather looks at how strong the players are through their games. Sure he might be a little biased in his PR but it's impossible to not have any bias in these kind of things. I'd say that his PR is dead on except for light but thats just my opinion.
yes, and fakesteve is the only person who watches VODs.


Thanks for being an ass about what I say. You can tell just from the past comments here that most of the people don't watch the vods of all the players here and base their arguments on things like TLPD. I never said that other people don't watch VODs but that FakeSteve bases his points on things other than stats. I'm not saying that he is 100% true and that his PR is undisputable, after all thats what the comment section is for. However, his knowledge of the game is a lot more indepth and better than a majority of the people.

Oh yes, Steve is a god when it comes to bw knowledge. Unless he has to actually play the game
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-03 14:26:23
January 03 2008 14:16 GMT
#99
Fakesteve, you said that Stork has one of the worst PvZ in progaming. But you put JD #1 because he raped Stork in OSL. I want to say only WTF?? Yes JD won an OSL, which is huge BUT he was not in MSL. Bisu has medals in both starleagues, he still deserve #1 spot.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 03 2008 14:32 GMT
#100
On January 03 2008 23:16 Hyperionnn wrote:
Fakesteve, you said that Stork has one of the worst PvZ in progaming. But you put JD #1 because he raped Stork in OSL. I want to say only WTF?? Yes JD won an OSL, which is huge BUT he was not in MSL. Bisu has medals in both starleagues, he still deserve #1 spot.

Stork's PvZ isn't that bad.

And LJD looked great in the final two games, as good as Savior does against Stork.
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