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D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
January 02 2008 21:53 GMT
#21
I was realy sad when Bisu lost to Stork, I knew that n00b would lose to Jaedong bigtime, only bisu can stop him now, hes got the magic Stork so desperately needs.
" We are not humans having spiritual experiences. - We are spirits having human experiences." - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
January 02 2008 22:03 GMT
#22
I'm glad Upmagic dropped off the PR. I wasn't too sure why he was on it to begin with and this last month he showed massive weakness. I'm a gigantic Savior fan, so I wouldn't have dropped him as far as 7th, but I gotta admit, he deserved a big drop. Savior's play on Katrina in particular has been abysmal, and his other games in December didn't look too good either. Beating Hwasin was about all Savior did in December. I hope he bounces back.

Thanks for the PR steve. Keep it up.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-02 22:04:23
January 02 2008 22:03 GMT
#23
On January 03 2008 06:43 Sunyveil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 06:39 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 03 2008 06:35 Sunyveil wrote:
hmmm I have to disagree with Bisu at no. 2

Yes, he has posted results lately by placing 3rd in the OSL and 2nd in the MSL. No other player made the semis of either of those, and only savior made the Ro8 of both. However, judging by play during this month alone, Bisu looked completely outclassed by Stork and very sloppy over Up (except for game 1, I feel that Up played that series very poorly), and it leads me to believe that Bisu can\'t beat anybody but zergs in his current form (excluding the \"nobodies\" that Anytime beats consistently). He has to be able to play more matchups than just PvZ, and unfortunately, he stacked his MSL group to hide any weakness he has in other matchups (and I hope he gets raped by Jaedong and July for it too)

Other than that I\'d put Anytime instead of Xellos as #10, but I don\'t feel terribly strong about that.

Everything else looks good (especially Jaedong at #1)


The thing to consider is that Bisu is more likely to repeat his strong performance in both leagues than anyone else. With the way Bisu plays we sort of have to wait for something to happen before he gets moved. Stork, on the other hand, is just useless PvZ, and didn\'t make MSL. If he\'d made MSL and the series against Jaedong was a little less of a blowout, Bisu wouldn\'t be #2. He\'s fortunate Stork played like ass in the last half of december.



ah so I think what you\'re saying is that it\'s more of a comparative thing than an absolute thing, and that nobody else is \"better\" let alone \"good enough\"

...

+ Show Spoiler +
ok


Well you're saying Bisu didn't look great, but great compared to what? Stork? Losing a PvP series, given the nature of the matchup, isn't the end of the world. Stork crashed and burned against Jaedong and sucked every dick he could find in Survivor. That definitely puts him below Bisu, and everything Stork and Bisu have done put them above everyone else (except for Jaedong, of course). That makes it Jaedong 1, Bisu 2, Stork 3.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
JIJI
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Canada291 Posts
January 02 2008 22:04 GMT
#24
Yes! Jaedong on top, I knew he'd be #1. It's sad to see Savior drop so much, but he's been playing pretty poorly lately, so I won't argue about rankings. Overall, pretty nice power rank.
Believing forever in sAviOr. Jaedong complete domination. IefNaij scarab explosion. MUCH <3
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
January 02 2008 22:10 GMT
#25
Xellos!

I absolutely love the new dominating Xellos we are seeing these days. He's shown flashes now and then, but it seems like he is finally getting it together. Some of his wins are oov-esque in the way he demolishes his opponents. Hope he can keep it up and win something again.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
aRod
Profile Joined July 2007
United States758 Posts
January 02 2008 22:20 GMT
#26
A well thought out and well explained power rank. FakeSteve ftw.
Live to win.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-02 22:25:26
January 02 2008 22:24 GMT
#27
Eh... the tiers in PvZ skill are insanely stratified, honestly I have zero faith in Jaedong beating Bisu in a series. But what do I know. :d

Also: I called Hwasin sucking a month ahead of the curve. GO ME.
NoSkill
Profile Joined January 2008
United States18 Posts
January 02 2008 22:30 GMT
#28
Bisu > Jaedong ^^
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 02 2008 22:40 GMT
#29
seems a good placement for power rank, maybe flash one or two steps down, and anytime in place of xellos... i dont know
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
January 02 2008 23:38 GMT
#30
lol, fuck Light.
...

Fuck Light. Lee Jae Ho.. Yoohs a hoooo
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Dark_Luster
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)438 Posts
January 02 2008 23:39 GMT
#31
<3 flash
#1 Horangee fan
diggurd
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Norway346 Posts
January 02 2008 23:45 GMT
#32
yeah! flash is the next big thing. ! if you dont like him, fu.
the interesting thing about this quote is that youll only understand whats interesting when youre done reading it. ǝɯıʇ ɹn ƃuıʇsɐʍ n ǝɹɐ ʎɥʍ
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 02 2008 23:46 GMT
#33
Haha nice, a most enjoyable read. Totally agree with you that these are the top 10 players to watch this month.

(Z)Jaedong faighting!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-03 00:17:05
January 02 2008 23:54 GMT
#34
On January 03 2008 06:35 Sunyveil wrote:
hmmm I have to disagree with Bisu at no. 2

Yes, he has posted results lately by placing 3rd in the OSL and 2nd in the MSL. No other player made the semis of either of those, and only savior made the Ro8 of both. However, judging by play during this month alone, Bisu looked completely outclassed by Stork and very sloppy over Up (except for game 1, I feel that Up played that series very poorly), and it leads me to believe that Bisu can't beat anybody but zergs in his current form (excluding the "nobodies" that Anytime beats consistently). He has to be able to play more matchups than just PvZ, and unfortunately, he stacked his MSL group to hide any weakness he has in other matchups (and I hope he gets raped by Jaedong and July for it too)

Other than that I'd put Anytime instead of Xellos as #10, but I don't feel terribly strong about that.

Everything else looks good (especially Jaedong at #1)

Jesus, give the man a break. He was pretty sick with flu and had to practice for and play a TV match, but still came out on top in a Bo5. Other than game 4 on Persona, they were also decently played games, which is more than I can say for Stork's entire series vs Jaedong.

Also, great rank. I agree with pretty much all the choices. It really is true that you have to watch the games to see each player's real form (like for Much).
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
January 03 2008 00:07 GMT
#35
good rank!
urine_nation
Profile Joined November 2007
United States64 Posts
January 03 2008 00:09 GMT
#36
i probably would have placed savior at #4

i still would have kept bisu at #1 with jaedong at #2.

i agree with the big jump with gramps though, he looked very strong.
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 03 2008 00:30 GMT
#37
Stork should be above Bisu. You know, there is this wonderful thing called Proleague. . .

And besides that, Bisu looked very weak in the OSL. I saw his series vs. Stork. It was honestly the most one-sided rape I have ever seen. Stork raped Bisu. Bisu did beat Upmagic but he still looked shaky in that series; let's not consider the fact that Up is not the best of Terrans.

Yes Stork is out of MSL but as was previously stated it was a worthy sacrifice for his OSL run. Bottom line is that Stork has a better chance of winning against a Terran or Protoss than Bisu. I believe he is in better shape overall.
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
January 03 2008 01:01 GMT
#38
lol @ sea and much
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 03 2008 01:08 GMT
#39
On January 03 2008 09:30 TheTyranid wrote:
Stork should be above Bisu. You know, there is this wonderful thing called Proleague. . .

And besides that, Bisu looked very weak in the OSL. I saw his series vs. Stork. It was honestly the most one-sided rape I have ever seen. Stork raped Bisu. Bisu did beat Upmagic but he still looked shaky in that series; let's not consider the fact that Up is not the best of Terrans.

Yes Stork is out of MSL but as was previously stated it was a worthy sacrifice for his OSL run. Bottom line is that Stork has a better chance of winning against a Terran or Protoss than Bisu. I believe he is in better shape overall.


A sacrifice for his OSL run? Stork got 2nd place in OSL and didn't place in MSL. In that same OSL, Bisu got 3rd place, and in the same MSL Stork didn't place in, Bisu got 2nd place. If these are the things you focus on why the HELL would you put Stork over Bisu?

Stork may have slightly better PvP and PvT, but he fucks up when it matters and he played like ASS against Jaedong and during his Survivor group. I don't care whether you think Stork has "two matchups to Bisu's one" or any other garbage that people try to say. Stork played like shit for the last two weeks of the month and Bisu placed top 3 in both leagues.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
koryano321
Profile Joined June 2007
United States309 Posts
January 03 2008 01:30 GMT
#40
ughhh i just dont understand why sea is so damn high T____T he lost his osc against much, and still has yet to advance newhere in individual leagues... sure he is doing good in proleague, but so are many other ppl who are also in either the osl or msl..... no matter how much savior has dropped, you know he will advance farther than sea in both leagues -_-;
Scorpio2012 wrote: i guess god is about as useful as a protoss scout
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