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teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
January 03 2008 01:37 GMT
#41
On January 03 2008 10:30 koryano321 wrote:
ughhh i just dont understand why sea is so damn high T____T he lost his osc against much, and still has yet to advance newhere in individual leagues... sure he is doing good in proleague, but so are many other ppl who are also in either the osl or msl..... no matter how much savior has dropped, you know he will advance farther than sea in both leagues -_-;

Here's an easy answer for you: Watch the games. Maybe then you'll understand.

All of Savior's recent games have been ugly as hell (compared to his past form). Sea, even though he just barely lost the OSC to Much, has showed very solid play in game after game throughout the whole month.
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
January 03 2008 01:40 GMT
#42
Hm, I can't fault this rank at all. Stork blew his chances at being the top, as he always does. nevertheless, both Bisu and Stork are going to have to start showing results again if they want to take the number one slot. I'm certain Bisu will, because it was obvious being sick affected his play and he still managed good placements in both leagues. I suppose Stork will be the same, he's a little train engine of good placements, even if he fucks up the finals.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
January 03 2008 01:45 GMT
#43
On January 03 2008 10:01 fusionsdf wrote:
lol @ sea and much
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
January 03 2008 01:48 GMT
#44
On January 03 2008 10:08 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 09:30 TheTyranid wrote:
Stork should be above Bisu. You know, there is this wonderful thing called Proleague. . .

And besides that, Bisu looked very weak in the OSL. I saw his series vs. Stork. It was honestly the most one-sided rape I have ever seen. Stork raped Bisu. Bisu did beat Upmagic but he still looked shaky in that series; let's not consider the fact that Up is not the best of Terrans.

Yes Stork is out of MSL but as was previously stated it was a worthy sacrifice for his OSL run. Bottom line is that Stork has a better chance of winning against a Terran or Protoss than Bisu. I believe he is in better shape overall.


A sacrifice for his OSL run? Stork got 2nd place in OSL and didn't place in MSL. In that same OSL, Bisu got 3rd place, and in the same MSL Stork didn't place in, Bisu got 2nd place. If these are the things you focus on why the HELL would you put Stork over Bisu?

Stork may have slightly better PvP and PvT, but he fucks up when it matters and he played like ASS against Jaedong and during his Survivor group. I don't care whether you think Stork has "two matchups to Bisu's one" or any other garbage that people try to say. Stork played like shit for the last two weeks of the month and Bisu placed top 3 in both leagues.

I wasn't focusing on that. What I would want to focus on is PROLEAGUE. Yes Stork did choke but with Proleague in the picture Stork has a legitimate reason for being 2'nd place.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 03 2008 01:53 GMT
#45
No, he doesn't. Having a good record in a six month long season and playing good right now are not the same thing.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
flammie
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
61 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-01-03 02:09:03
January 03 2008 02:08 GMT
#46
On January 03 2008 10:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
No, he doesn't. Having a good record in a six month long season and playing good right now are not the same thing.


Just for reference,
TLPD says Stork was 6-1 in proleague for December.
kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
January 03 2008 02:08 GMT
#47
i think you put too much faith in sea and much and way too little in savior
although he has done badly in the proleague, he is still the maestro
also stork got kicked out of the msl by ruby and luxury.

mind beat clon sangho free and mingu
mind lost to haran free and luxury
thats pretty much the definition of mediocrity and certainly not enough to push him up a slot. in fact, an msl champion should play like a champion, without losing to 2nd tier players

also bisu recently lost to ggplay who hasnt been good since like 2006. if bisu starts getting dominated by zergs, its over for him
Clan Lzuruha
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 03 2008 02:17 GMT
#48
On January 03 2008 11:08 flammie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 10:53 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
No, he doesn't. Having a good record in a six month long season and playing good right now are not the same thing.


Just for reference,
TLPD says Stork was 6-1 in proleague for December.


Terrible play vs Jaedong and his Survivor group. If you think ProLeague is as important as that, you're nuts.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 03 2008 02:18 GMT
#49
poor up
he went from being in the semi finals in the osl to losing 0-3 to the 3rd/4th playoffs, then 2-3 to the OSC semis, then 1-2 to ODT and 1-2 into the offlines

its been a rough month for him
AUSSIESCUM
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
January 03 2008 02:24 GMT
#50
On January 03 2008 11:08 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
i think you put too much faith in sea and much and way too little in savior
although he has done badly in the proleague, he is still the maestro

savior hasn't been the maestro (dumbest nickname ever, btw) since bisu slammed him down in GomTV S1

savior is only ranked as high as he is in the power rank because of what he used to be. he's doing poorly in everything at the moment and you want him ranked even higher?
AUSSIESCUM
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 03 2008 02:24 GMT
#51
On January 03 2008 11:08 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
i think you put too much faith in sea and much and way too little in savior
although he has done badly in the proleague, he is still the maestro
also stork got kicked out of the msl by ruby and luxury.

mind beat clon sangho free and mingu
mind lost to haran free and luxury
thats pretty much the definition of mediocrity and certainly not enough to push him up a slot. in fact, an msl champion should play like a champion, without losing to 2nd tier players

also bisu recently lost to ggplay who hasnt been good since like 2006. if bisu starts getting dominated by zergs, its over for him


I think you put too much weight on the reputation of a player and not their ability to win games. Sea and Much are playing better than Savior is right now, Savior is getting wrecked by every Terran he plays and he looks terrible doing it. Even when he wins he looks like an awful player these days.

No shit Stork lost to Ruby and Luxury. Why are you bringing that up?

Mind's games are just fucking one-off ProLeague games. They don't say much about a player's abilities. For that matter, he's won more than he's lost. Haran/free/Luxury are all good enough to take a game now and then from ANYONE. Again, these games don't matter much.

Bisu is going to lose a PvZ now and then. He will never ever win every PvZ he ever plays. Even as good as he is right now. If you think one single game against GGPlay is a case for an anti-Bisu statement then you're out of your mind.
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
January 03 2008 02:27 GMT
#52
On January 03 2008 11:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
poor up
he went from being in the semi finals in the osl to losing 0-3 to the 3rd/4th playoffs, then 2-3 to the OSC semis, then 1-2 to ODT and 1-2 into the offlines

its been a rough month for him


0-2 against Sea in the OSC Semi, not 1-2
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
kramus
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1259 Posts
January 03 2008 02:28 GMT
#53
On January 03 2008 11:18 SoMuchBetter wrote:
poor up
he went from being in the semi finals in the osl to losing 0-3 to the 3rd/4th playoffs, then 2-3 to the OSC semis, then 1-2 to ODT and 1-2 into the offlines

its been a rough month for him
0-2 to ODT against sea?
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
January 03 2008 02:49 GMT
#54
On January 03 2008 06:33 Waves wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 06:23 3 Lions wrote:
if nada wins his group for ODT and MSL, he should be in top 10 for feb


Surely it takes more than that to qualify for Power Rank? Nostalgia aside, Nada hasn't exactly been a win factory lately, or even a source of impressive play.


That's exactly why it is Power Rank of the Month
w/e
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
January 03 2008 03:12 GMT
#55
On January 03 2008 11:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 11:08 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
i think you put too much faith in sea and much and way too little in savior
although he has done badly in the proleague, he is still the maestro
also stork got kicked out of the msl by ruby and luxury.

mind beat clon sangho free and mingu
mind lost to haran free and luxury
thats pretty much the definition of mediocrity and certainly not enough to push him up a slot. in fact, an msl champion should play like a champion, without losing to 2nd tier players

also bisu recently lost to ggplay who hasnt been good since like 2006. if bisu starts getting dominated by zergs, its over for him


I think you put too much weight on the reputation of a player and not their ability to win games. Sea and Much are playing better than Savior is right now, Savior is getting wrecked by every Terran he plays and he looks terrible doing it. Even when he wins he looks like an awful player these days.

No shit Stork lost to Ruby and Luxury. Why are you bringing that up?

Mind's games are just fucking one-off ProLeague games. They don't say much about a player's abilities. For that matter, he's won more than he's lost. Haran/free/Luxury are all good enough to take a game now and then from ANYONE. Again, these games don't matter much.

Bisu is going to lose a PvZ now and then. He will never ever win every PvZ he ever plays. Even as good as he is right now. If you think one single game against GGPlay is a case for an anti-Bisu statement then you're out of your mind.

some of the power rank defenses can be toned down ;/
ambit!ous1
Profile Joined September 2007
United States3662 Posts
January 03 2008 03:14 GMT
#56
awesome! thanks steve.
Bisu[Shield] / ♔ SoYeon
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
January 03 2008 03:15 GMT
#57
Very very nice Steve. I'm still waiting to see Stork shit on some Zergs like I know he can.

I'll be a fan til the end. Stork will get his title this season, I know it.
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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 03 2008 03:15 GMT
#58

Terrible play vs Jaedong and his Survivor group. If you think ProLeague is as important as that, you're nuts.


This keeps getting repeated as a reason why Stork is "weak." Let's put Bisu, who is supposedly stronger, into this sentence. This last December, Bisu is 3-6, and recently lost 1-3 to Mind. So...

Terrible play vs Mind and even worse play against Stork. Proleague isn't even supposed to be important, but Bisu still went ahead and lost to Hiya, some no-name Terran, anyway.

Stork's loss against Jaedong is about as bad as Bisu's loss to Mind. But Stork brutally raped Bisu 3-0. Bisu couldn't do anything in those games, he just showed up for the loses. They are not "close" in terms of PvP or PvT.

Bisu's only wins this month comes from an average TvP'er in UpMagic, and it was a close 3-2 series.

You know, UpMagic lost 0-3 to Jaedong too. Aside from that, he has had some mediocre victories. Which makes him much like Bisu, why isn't he #2 for PR?
Marines > everything
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
January 03 2008 03:18 GMT
#59
On January 03 2008 12:12 intotherainx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2008 11:24 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
On January 03 2008 11:08 kpcrew(Gg) wrote:
i think you put too much faith in sea and much and way too little in savior
although he has done badly in the proleague, he is still the maestro
also stork got kicked out of the msl by ruby and luxury.

mind beat clon sangho free and mingu
mind lost to haran free and luxury
thats pretty much the definition of mediocrity and certainly not enough to push him up a slot. in fact, an msl champion should play like a champion, without losing to 2nd tier players

also bisu recently lost to ggplay who hasnt been good since like 2006. if bisu starts getting dominated by zergs, its over for him


I think you put too much weight on the reputation of a player and not their ability to win games. Sea and Much are playing better than Savior is right now, Savior is getting wrecked by every Terran he plays and he looks terrible doing it. Even when he wins he looks like an awful player these days.

No shit Stork lost to Ruby and Luxury. Why are you bringing that up?

Mind's games are just fucking one-off ProLeague games. They don't say much about a player's abilities. For that matter, he's won more than he's lost. Haran/free/Luxury are all good enough to take a game now and then from ANYONE. Again, these games don't matter much.

Bisu is going to lose a PvZ now and then. He will never ever win every PvZ he ever plays. Even as good as he is right now. If you think one single game against GGPlay is a case for an anti-Bisu statement then you're out of your mind.

some of the power rank defenses can be toned down ;/

He speaks the truth tho -_-;
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
January 03 2008 03:25 GMT
#60
you're pretty biased with sea ...
call me moxie
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