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Will progaming will ever be big outside Korea?

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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
August 12 2003 13:14 GMT
#1
Nope, it will not. Especially not here in the US.
pheered.user
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United States2603 Posts
August 12 2003 13:14 GMT
#2
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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
August 12 2003 13:15 GMT
#3
Lol @ above guy. Too slow bud.
Beyonder
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Netherlands15103 Posts
August 12 2003 13:16 GMT
#4
thought id add one anyway
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Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
August 12 2003 13:24 GMT
#5
It will eventually, not for a long time though.
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HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
August 12 2003 13:54 GMT
#6
yeah, i actually think it will
TheLegend
Profile Joined February 2003
United States168 Posts
August 12 2003 14:02 GMT
#7
i think it will but only time will tell
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Cheez_Dip{PAK}
Profile Joined January 2003
150 Posts
August 12 2003 14:14 GMT
#8
I say 10-20 years.
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ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
August 12 2003 14:18 GMT
#9
It will become huge. Much bigger than what normal-sports are tooday.
But I dont think it will happen in our lifetime..or maybe it will.
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otherOne
Profile Joined February 2003
United States135 Posts
August 12 2003 14:47 GMT
#10
It will, but I don't think I'll be young enough to rejoice for it by then T_T

And IMO, I don't think Korea is in its 'mature' stage right now yet either. I mean, besides the very top of the progamers, most earn very little money =[

Pros also feel the need to have a strike to get the prizes raised, because currently, the lesser pros don't have much to earn income.

8 hours of constant practicing is crazy too, heh I don't really think professionals in other 'sports' practice 8-10 hours a day straight
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Kobayashi
Profile Joined February 2003
Portugal1970 Posts
August 12 2003 14:50 GMT
#11
Grrr said a couple a years ago that war3 would be the game that would turn pro gamers into millionaires and would bring pro-gaming out side of korea ....of course this was before war3 beta was released, then everyone saw the game sucks and none of this will happen
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Sw1tCh
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2005 Posts
August 12 2003 16:06 GMT
#12
ppl in the US are too narrow minded to accept progaming imo
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10571 Posts
August 12 2003 16:35 GMT
#13
dunno when or where but one thing is for sure, it will come to beat the crap out of every sport on earth.
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draeger
Profile Joined July 2003
United States3256 Posts
August 12 2003 17:05 GMT
#14
8 hours of constant practicing is crazy too, heh I don't really think professionals in other 'sports' practice 8-10 hours a day straight


If you count lifting, conditioning, and practice then I bet it's quite even.
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Casper...
Profile Joined October 2002
Liberia4948 Posts
August 12 2003 17:35 GMT
#15
the koreans got on the internet bandwagon immediately since they didn't allow consoles. the internet is part of their culture.

this will eventually happen elsewhere, as is already the case in nordic and european countries.
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rOm
Profile Joined December 2002
Latvia1208 Posts
August 12 2003 18:23 GMT
#16
On August 13 2003 02:35 Casper... wrote:
the koreans got on the internet bandwagon immediately since they didn't allow consoles. the internet is part of their culture.

this will eventually happen elsewhere, as is already the case in nordic and european countries.
Agreed. People use computers and internet conections more and more.
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~Drewby
Profile Joined March 2003
Korea (South)131 Posts
August 12 2003 18:26 GMT
#17
Never. Pro Gaming might reach a certain level in US, but in my opinion, I think it will only stay in the secluded "gaming" community. And once BW dies...
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-12 19:34:06
August 12 2003 19:32 GMT
#18
On August 12 2003 23:47 otherOne wrote:

8 hours of constant practicing is crazy too, heh I don't really think professionals in other 'sports' practice 8-10 hours a day straight


If you think 8 hours of practicing on a computer is nearly as hard as actual physical training in something like football then you are nuts. I play football and I've had 8 hour practices and they SUCK. You are too tired to do anything after, and I a do mean ANYTHING. I'd gladly sit on my ass and play games for 8 hours if thats what i did for a living and people didn't think i was a complete loser. lol =O
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
August 12 2003 21:20 GMT
#19
I think it will be much larger with video games instead of computer games ;p
C)R
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada549 Posts
August 12 2003 21:28 GMT
#20
stranger things have happened, take golf for example
bASesinAtOR
Profile Joined November 2002
Bhutan1295 Posts
August 12 2003 23:55 GMT
#21
as long as highschool football players are hardheaded, and think theyre the shit there wont be progaming in the US
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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
August 13 2003 02:15 GMT
#22
On August 13 2003 06:28 C)R wrote:
stranger things have happened, take golf for example


...or pro skateboarding. Or MOVIES about pro skateboarding.

I think it's safe to say there's nothing inherent to pro gaming to prevent it from growing and becoming popular - even in the US.
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Ao_Jun
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Denmark396 Posts
August 13 2003 02:48 GMT
#23
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Iron[NM]
Profile Joined August 2003
United States57 Posts
August 13 2003 07:23 GMT
#24
Seriously. If skateboarding has a following, if golf got a tremendous following, pro gaming can gain a following as well. Not to the extent of 20,000 fans waving balloons with signs, but a following.
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
August 13 2003 21:45 GMT
#25
Bowling became a sport, I dont see why progaming won't get popular.

Note: That was ment to make fun of bowling.
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ArtOfForce
Profile Joined July 2003
Belarus11 Posts
August 15 2003 15:00 GMT
#26
I think it will be very popular if we could make from sc competitions
the SHOW like Coreans...
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
August 15 2003 20:16 GMT
#27
Yeah, once something is on TV, we got it
Like in Germany.. they broadcast war3 on fridays someone said...
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MaZgOt
Profile Joined April 2003
Australia58 Posts
August 15 2003 22:33 GMT
#28
Yeah Australia (this year) hashosted it's 3rd WCG qulifiers. I COULD SWEAR that last years were better... EVEN THE TRIAL WCG (before WCG officially opened) were better.. judging by trends it's only going to get worse.. and I don;t get it... in the world (competition based) starcraft has
1. more money per head
2. more tournaments
3. The most number of pro players

AND YET.. The australian community chooses to go "wtg is sc? u mean cs rite?"
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
August 16 2003 16:12 GMT
#29
People Just think that gaming is an addiction, and it is. All those korean pros are just addicted to that game. People don't give some nerd playing ten hours a day away from everyone and alone in his basement any respect. I mean spending 10hrs a day practicing hockey with other people is more respectable than being secluded with a computer for 10 hrs.

I don't think it will happen in our lifetime, or else some 10 year old addict will be earning 100 000 dollars which is rediculous. You can play pro football the rest of your life but progaming can only go so far. I'd call Boxer a loser if 5 years from now he is still playing starcraft.
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MyztiC`Terran
Profile Joined August 2003
United States374 Posts
August 16 2003 17:07 GMT
#30
I don't think it will
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
August 17 2003 05:35 GMT
#31
there are pro chess players and people respect them... i dont see the difference between chess and starcraft as a career choice, but i dont think grrrr's little theory will ever pick up, especially with the wc3 part of it...
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Aus.predator
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia26 Posts
August 18 2003 00:57 GMT
#32
i think korea will be it.. u guys r dreaming if u think it will go further.. except maybe sweden due to sponsors.
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mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
August 18 2003 02:37 GMT
#33
On August 17 2003 01:12 Tien wrote:
People Just think that gaming is an addiction, and it is. All those korean pros are just addicted to that game. People don't give some nerd playing ten hours a day away from everyone and alone in his basement any respect. I mean spending 10hrs a day practicing hockey with other people is more respectable than being secluded with a computer for 10 hrs.

I don't think it will happen in our lifetime, or else some 10 year old addict will be earning 100 000 dollars which is rediculous. You can play pro football the rest of your life but progaming can only go so far. I'd call Boxer a loser if 5 years from now he is still playing starcraft.


You can play pro football until the next injury to your spinal column.

And, if 5 years from now, if Boxer's still playing (presumably because he's still skilled and the game's still popular), most will be calling him "a rich bastard."
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cubik
Profile Joined August 2003
Finland19 Posts
August 20 2003 17:23 GMT
#34
Soon Watson, soon.
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Anti-HerO)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States1 Post
August 21 2003 21:03 GMT
#35
Progaming will be in U.S. but not Broodwar.

Console games like Halo and Super Smash Brothers Melee are pretty big now.
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-22 21:15:37
August 22 2003 21:14 GMT
#36
Its because of ppl like Tien that it might not make it.. they see it as an addiction comparing to the incredibly hard and demanding SPORTS, which are so entertaining to watch.. yea Tien, cant get enough of those sweaty men throwing 'em balls...

[edit]: secluded? wtf u mean they arent playing other people?
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pariah
Profile Joined April 2003
United States29 Posts
August 24 2003 01:07 GMT
#37
it already is popular in germany ^^;;
Abs0lu7ioN
Profile Joined August 2003
Chile1 Post
August 25 2003 09:54 GMT
#38
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Profile Joined August 2003
Germany1 Post
August 26 2003 10:03 GMT
#39
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bi11y
Profile Joined December 2002
United States169 Posts
August 29 2003 03:24 GMT
#40
it will in 5 months -_-
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 01 2003 20:45 GMT
#41
Unless Football and Baseball take a Dive, nope.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Stim_Abuser
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-03 17:35:16
September 03 2003 17:35 GMT
#42
yes it will in us, and its going to be a first person shooter like CS2.
mensrea, how dare you! skateboarding is one of the hardest things to be good at and is very entertaining to watch.
you can tell what your enemy fears most by the means he uses to frighten you.
FragStar
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden8 Posts
September 04 2003 02:12 GMT
#43
it might happen, i realy hope so...
btw, just discovred this kind of smileys... they own ^^

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-04 08:55:49
September 04 2003 08:54 GMT
#44
Skateboarding isnt hard, I use to skate then I realised "Hey, this is gay... If I play games I can get some Oriental!"

Well not exactly like that but I use to skate.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Stim_Abuser
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1277 Posts
September 04 2003 18:07 GMT
#45
stealth and i would bet they you where no where near good at it. being a sk8er isnt hard but being good at it is kthx.
you can tell what your enemy fears most by the means he uses to frighten you.
Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
September 07 2003 01:43 GMT
#46
On September 05 2003 03:07 Stim_Abuser wrote:
stealth and i would bet they you where no where near good at it. being a sk8er isnt hard but being good at it is kthx.


You should realise that maybe, just maybe someone actually can be good at stuff outside of this forum and SC. Crazy huh?
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Stim_Abuser
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-09-09 06:58:28
September 08 2003 07:07 GMT
#47
funktion its not that idiot, its the fact that anyone who says skateboarding isnt hard wasnt to good at it. to be good you have to be 100 percent dedicated.
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ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
September 10 2003 06:56 GMT
#48
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Profile Joined November 2003
Hungary30 Posts
December 30 2003 23:49 GMT
#49
Yes! In Hungary!
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