EPTTime Machine Tournament Winner? - Page 5
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[GiTM]-Ace
United States4935 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On November 12 2007 13:27 iamke55 wrote: Sounds about right. Actually, spots 2 and 3 might as well be empty since oov's worst matchup in his prime was stronger than both bisu's and savior's best matchup. The battle reports in the tournament forum were incredible, as soon as oov popped out people basically said gg oov 4-0 opponent's team. Despite the numerous superbly written reports by mensrea, the following Waxangel report remains my favorite for pure hilarity: 4Union vs Suma GO This match was the final matchup of the Losers' Bracket, the winning team going to the grand final, and the losing team getting 3rd place. KTF already got their ticket to the finals, the winner of week's match would go on to face them. 1: Xellos(GO) defeated Kos(4U) on Enter the Dragon 2: Xellos(GO) defeated IntoTheRainbow(4U) on Detonation_Xnote Looks pretty good for GO, doesn't it? 3: ILoveoov(4U) defeated Xellos(GO) on JR's Memory 4: ILoveoov(4U) defeated ForU(GO, wouldn't it be funny if he was on 4U?) on Parallellines 5: ILoveoov(4U) defeated Nal_rA(GO) on Enter the Dragon 6: ILoveoov(4U) defeated Eros~Rage(GO) on Detonation_Xnote 4Union 4 : 2 GO And then oov met july in the Gillette OSL and the ITV League... And both of those leagues should be considered to be during oov's period of dominance considering when they were. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 12 2007 23:57 SirSimon wrote: roflI just love it how ppl come down on boxer 24/7, at his best, in 2001 boxer would've beaten savior aswell as bisu and all the stupid noob players, you guys are just so jealous boxers still in top of his fame after like 6-7 years of fame. learn to live with it noobs, or do it better yourselves. i see a bunch of hilarious assertions and a messy nonsequitur implied argument. have you ever watched 2001 boxer? | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
I voted Nada, becouse he is the best player ever. | ||
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Wasabi
United States3085 Posts
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morfyy
Romania593 Posts
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Aphelion
United States2720 Posts
IMO, the only candidates that should be discussed are: 06 Savior, 04 Oov, 05 July, 07 Bisu and possibly 02 Nada. What further complicates this discussion is that almost all of the former bonjwas were dethroned by each other. Only possible exception was July, and he lost an OSL final to Oov. 02 Nada : He had incredible force, but I feel his suit, strong mechanics, are being duplicated by too many of today's players. He might do well, but I doubt he can win. 04 Oov: Oov never could beat Savior. In fact, Savior's trademark ZvT style was first demonstrated by his beating Oov at his prime repeatedly. No chance. 05 July: Didn't dominate to that extent as the other bonjwas. Was beaten by Nada in Panasonic, and beat Oov in his first OSL by the slimmest of margins. ZvZ vs Savior is a crapshoot (I don't know enough about that MU really), and even his dominating ZvP would run into Bisu, whose control and timing are eons ahead of the tosses he used to rape. If ForU could beat July on Requiem, Bisu will figure out a way in a bo5. 06 Savior: Now we're talking. Two of the only real candidates imo. At his prime, he an imposing force: play as smooth as water, flawless decision making down to correct scouting direction. Definite win if Oov or July somehow knock out Bisu early. 07 Bisu: SC progaming constantly improves by leap and bounds, and usually the strongest ever is the strongest currently. | ||
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HaiVan
Bulgaria1698 Posts
Most accomplished player ever. | ||
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xmShake
United States1100 Posts
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archaean
United States1 Post
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demonic_phate
United States442 Posts
and he is awesome... though if I were to actually think about this i would vote bisu | ||
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Tensai176
Canada2061 Posts
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1814 Posts
But true about Bisu, the best currently is usually the best ever. Same in the Olympics, new world records constantly. | ||
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Myxomatosis
United States2392 Posts
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FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On November 13 2007 05:24 Aphelion wrote: 05 July: Didn't dominate to that extent as the other bonjwas. Was beaten by Nada in Panasonic, and beat Oov in his first OSL by the slimmest of margins Don't you remember Xellos shaking his head during games 1 and 5 of that series and saying "its impossible to win when a zerg plays so perfectly"? Those two games were utter domination from start to finish in a period when NO ONE could do that to oov everything else you said is bang-on i'm just correcting that bit  | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On November 12 2007 04:13 FireBlast! wrote: Very well put. Day Dreamer FTWIf we take into consideration that the play level now is astronomically advanced compared to that during 2001, only Savior and Bisu would be contenders for this poll. Otherwise with "inflation", for me its Nal_rA in his prime because he is the only player in the list who had no one who you could pair up as a "rival". rA's dominance is unique because he won through playing like no one had before, which is why for a period no one could counter it. Every other player during their 'peak' still had a rival that could match them head to toe. | ||
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b(O.o)p
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